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Les from Hull 24 Mar 07 - 03:42 PM
Hollowfox 24 Mar 07 - 04:41 PM
John MacKenzie 25 Mar 07 - 05:20 AM
GUEST,Paul Warwick 25 Mar 07 - 05:22 AM
mouldy 25 Mar 07 - 10:30 AM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 25 Mar 07 - 05:03 PM
GUEST,KT 25 Mar 07 - 11:38 PM
mouldy 26 Mar 07 - 04:45 AM
skarpi 26 Mar 07 - 05:28 AM
Bee 26 Mar 07 - 07:01 AM
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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Les from Hull
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 03:42 PM

Deepest sympathy and virtual hugs from Maggie and me and your other friends in the Hull area, Andrea. We're very sorry for your loss.


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Hollowfox
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 04:41 PM

I am So sorry to hear this. I'd hug you if I could, Mouldy. My thoughts and prayers go out for you, and yes, a candle will be lit for you and yours tonight when I get home.


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 05:20 AM

I have read your posts with a lump in my throat, and I am full of admiration for your courage.
My sincere condolences, and I wish you continued strength and the support of your family, to help you through the difficult days.
I hope also, that the support of this Mudcat community helps you cope.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: GUEST,Paul Warwick
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 05:22 AM

Dearest Andi


I was deeply saddened to here the news of Ian's death

My thoughts are with you & all the family at this time

I will always have the fondest memories of Ian and the pint of Shipo's we used to share

Paul Warwick


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: mouldy
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 10:30 AM

Thanks Paul

It must be 20 years since we last saw you!
If you want to get in touch, you can PM me from here, or use robertson@btinternet.com

The young lad you last saw is now coming up for 28 and is 6'4"!

Andi


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 05:03 PM

I'm just finding this now. Dear Mouldy, you are in my thoughts and in my heart. I've suffered sudden loss of a partner, too, and know about the shock, and the after-shocks. I'm just sitting here with you, keeping company for awhile. Take care of yourself, my dear.


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 11:38 PM

Mouldy, please know that someone in Alaska is holding you in heart, thought and prayer. I'm so sorry for your loss. KT


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: mouldy
Date: 26 Mar 07 - 04:45 AM

Thanks everyone.

We met with the guy who escorted him back to the UK last night, and he brought Ian's personal effects from Kemerovo, including his two rings which he was wearing when he died. There is no damage to them at all. I have the comfort of knowing that death was almost certainly instant - carbon monoxide - or black damp as it used to be called in the mines. I believe there are injuries to his lower body, but they did not contribute to his death. Obviously this is what Mark was told, and has relayed to us. I haven't yet got the death certificate: all the coroner stuff starts today. But at the moment I know what I needed to know.

The night after I found out about his death, and just as I was trying to sleep, I had a vivid image flash twice in succession into my mind of Ian being pulled out from under some fallen rock, but was only buried from the waist down. He looked peaceful, and only had one or two small cuts about his face. Over the last few days the possibility of CO poisoning has been foremost in my mind, and although I feel more weepy today as now I have his stuff it is all real, I have a tremendous feeling of inner peace. Things could have been much more violent.

The office staff in Moscow are absolutely devastated by Ian's death and I have had a lovely letter from them. Also, Mark showed me a photo he had taken of Ian's desk, which is all neat and tidy, and covered in flowers.

Andrea


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: skarpi
Date: 26 Mar 07 - 05:28 AM

Andrea you are a brave woman , to come out and tell us all this
I hope and I know it help to write or talk about hard matters
that we go through on our lifepath , I know its hard next days
and weeks so be strong , talk about it , cry about it , tell
your feelings to someone you trust , you have something that
noone can take away from you , the memory of Ian ...........


school of life ..........its hard to be in that school .

Again deepest sympathy from me to you and yours and may
god be with you through this time ahead .

All the best Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Bee
Date: 26 Mar 07 - 07:01 AM

As we say in Cape Breton, sorry for your trouble. It does sound like you have around you a fine collection of family and friends, and that is a very good thing. Remember to care for yourself over the next hard days.

Bee


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: alison
Date: 27 Mar 07 - 01:38 AM

really to sorry to hear this

hugs and good thoughts from Oz

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Mar 07 - 03:40 AM

I second what Skarpi put so eloquently. You are full of grace and we are blessed by your sharing, even though it was brought on by such a tragedy.

{{{{{{{Andrea & family}}}}}}}}


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: mouldy
Date: 27 Mar 07 - 06:26 AM

For all you out there who knew Ian, and his - hrmm - sartorial taste...
He is taking his ease in a huge American style casket, which JUST fits into the hearse, and he is dressed, apparently in a very expensive (Russian) suit, with the absolute latest fashion Russian footwear - winklepickers! This is what I have been told.

I have been receiving letters from people who knew Ian and worked with him, but also, today, one from an association of ex Bevin Boys, who feel solidarity with anyone in the mining industry, especially at times like these.

The funeral is set for midday on Friday. The Rector's due here in a minute to sort out the service with me.

You are right. I can express my feelings better sometimes by writing them down. It gives me time to think. His company forwarded some photos they had been sent of him, including some out with the Hash. There's one of him in his bright orangr Sarajevo Hash T shirt, sitting by a lake with what is probably an empty can of Baltica by his side, and with his fingers in his mouth pulling a face and leering directly at the camera. It's on my desktop now, so every time I boot up the computer he gets greeted...usually at the moment, "Git!" or "You bastard!" Since we've got him back I've been more emotional, and cursing him for getting me into the state I'm in does help.

Andrea


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Big Mick
Date: 27 Mar 07 - 06:51 AM

mouldy, whether you realize it or not, you are teaching many of us as to what it is like to walk with grace. From where ever you are drawing it, your strength of character and absolute love of Ian just comes pouring through. Dealing with this type of event is very difficult. When my time comes to do so, I pray that I will have the type of strength and grace that you have exhibited here.

One day we will meet, and I look forward to that. In the meantime I hope you take some comfort from the knowledge that there are many people around the world who are with you in spirit and love right now. We need not worry about finding Ian's voice, it is alive and well in you, Ruth, Alex, and Eleanor.

Bless you, ..... and thank you.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Barry Finn
Date: 27 Mar 07 - 06:52 AM

I hope that from here on in the sun will shine over your shoulders for the rest of your days. Good luck & take the best care of yourself, you deserve it Andrea.

Barry


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 27 Mar 07 - 10:20 AM

We'll be there, Andrea - just hope the thought of the winklepickers doesn't give rise to a fit of giggles!!Don't think he'd mind though! Will ring later.


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Mar 07 - 10:39 AM

Well, being across the pond, I had to see what winklepickers were! You've made me smile with that one.

Keep writing to us, okay, and know you are held in our hearts and thoughts.

kat


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: GUEST,ib48
Date: 27 Mar 07 - 10:45 AM

very sorry to hear this,thoughts go out to you from murton county durham.


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 27 Mar 07 - 10:49 AM

"the type of strength and grace that you have exhibited here" - well said, Big Mick ...


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Tig
Date: 27 Mar 07 - 05:51 PM

Hmmm - winklepickers :-) Talk about surreal.

We'll be there too Andi.

Love and HUGS
xxxxxxxxxxx


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Tig
Date: 28 Mar 07 - 03:47 PM

Don't forget to wear a 'touch of red' if you are going to the funeral on Friday.


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Grab
Date: 28 Mar 07 - 07:12 PM

So sorry to hear about this - best wishes Mouldy.

Graham.


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: mouldy
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 03:05 AM

I have been told by my son to stop spreading rumours about winklepickers! (He's getting more and more like his dad every day, except he's 3" taller). Apparently what was actually said was that he is kitted up in the most expensive fashionable (Russian) style suit, and although nobody has actually checked, I should be warned that the latest fashion for shoes in Moscow is winklepickers. The undertaker will know, but I don't want my image of Ian's broad fitting size ten feet in winklepickers ruined!

In my mind he's still wearing 'em! He was wearing something along those lines the night I met him!

I'm in the calm before the storm at the moment. The undertaker has shown me a photo of the coffin: it's Canadian! It is a proper casket. He estimates it weighs about 15 stone without Ian, who wasn't much short of that himself. After measuring it John, the undertaker, thinks it'll go in the hearse with about one or two inches clearance at the top!

For any of you who will be there, apologies for the snivelling wreck that will dribble in and out of the church: I'm bad at funerals at the best of times! Also, we are expecting a LOT of people, and when I get round the corner into the Priory and see them, I'll just go off on one. It's also quite a long aisle (but the carpet's red, if my memory serves me right). The clergy are also going with the red theme, as are the staff of the Brewer's Arms! (Conveniently this Sunday's liturgical colour is red).
I'll be okay once we get to the pub and someone gets a drink into me.

The main stress at the moment is getting the booklets for the service done. They're nearly finished, and Cyril, the Rector, has suggested we print 250. I've even bought a posh new printer for the job...my old Epson would probably have imploded under the strain!
Got the financial advisor coming today, but he hasn't let me know when.

Andrea


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Tig
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 08:07 AM

Hang in there Kidda - after tomorrow your life will start to (hopefully) return to more like normality for you - if anything about your life could be said to be normal!

We can sort the migraines from the alcohol later.

Love and HUGS
xxx


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 08:41 AM

Andrea.....When you first joined us here at the 'Cat we had some funny interchanges about your screen name and it was obvious then that you had a great sense of humor. More to the point, you have humor in your soul and a willingness to view reality through several different lenses which gives you the ability to take the world from any point of view.......upside down or tilted sideways. I doubt there is anything I value more in a person than that ability and that skewed version of reality and the humor it spawns.

Somehow I have no doubt that you will find all the touchstones to get you through not just the next few days, but the rest of your life as well. And as the next days pass remember that this weird litle cyber community will be here...........for whatever that's worth! Hang in.....I am sure you will.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Pistachio
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 03:07 PM

Condolences to you and your family from another saddened 'catter'.
Take care of yourselves - and let the wonder of mudcat hugs hold you as you say goodbye tomorrow. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< x >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hazel.


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: skipy
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 03:20 PM

There will be many "mudcat strangers" there with you tommorrow, lean on us, that is what we are for. We will be thinking of you.
Skipy, with a tissue!


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 03:28 PM

Condolences, from north central Pennsylvania.

~Susan & Greg


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Hawker
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 03:53 PM

Andrea,
Though I don't know you, your sincerity and honesty have shone through in your posts - as has your love and respect for your Ian - and your sense of humour. I think all who have visited this thread have been touched by your humility and strength and I know that there are many, like me, who will be thinking of you and holding you in our hearts tomorrow. Keep strong.
Much Love, Lucy X


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: flaj
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 05:42 PM

Andrea,

Very very sorry about Ian and for you and the family.

I saw him dancing with Whitby Scratch Morris last year for the first (and sadly now last)time.

Our deepest sympathies and condolencies.

Chris (the melodeon) and Jan (Wakefield Morris Dancers).


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: bbc
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 09:21 PM

Andrea,

Hang in there. You may not feel like it, but your posts show that you are doing great, under very trying circumstances. My thoughts & prayers go with you.

love,

Barbara


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 10:05 PM

For what it's worth, my hat is off to you, and the humor and honesty you are able to bring to this.

They will stand you well. As will this ragtag community.

Thank you for letting us share this with you. I will lift a prayer to your and yours, for continued grace and strength.

Dani


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Partridge
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 01:21 AM

Will be thinking of you today Andrea.

much love

Pat xxxx


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 03:50 AM

Andrea, my thoughts are with you today, as they have been frequently of late, If I may offer a verse that relate to havingsomeone "working away"

" You are like the Wild Geese love
you fly where ere you will
where ever the Wild geese Take you
My arms will hold you still"


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Megan L
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 04:21 AM

thinking of you all today and praying strenght and peace foir you.

dauvitt and his meg


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: jacqui.c
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 07:24 AM

{{{{{{{{{{{Andra & family}}}}}}}}}


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Tig
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 12:06 PM

Just got back from Snaith and the celebration of Ian's life. It were a 'reet good do'with no morbidity about it. Ian didn't 'do' morbidity. Even the clergy wore red stoles instead of purple and the coffin was a sight to behold - VERY large and heavy :-). So much so that it couldn't be cremated with him because of the steel plate in it.

Andrea did not disgrace herself in any way and she and all of the family seem to be coping well at the moment. When asked what was going to happen to his ashes I was told that some of them are going to keep on travelling, being left in various parts of the world as family members visit them. So far this includes New Zealand and Egypt!

Thanks for today Andi and Co. A true celebration of life.

Love and HUGS
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 02:24 PM

It was certainly a wonderful tribute to Ian. The rafters shook as we sang Lord of the Dance and the eulogy was mainly Andreas own words with all the juicier bits cut out! Almost everyone wore a touch of red in honour of Ian's favourite colour and later this year the Whitby Scratch Morris will dance out in red as a tribute.
Ian would have been proud of his family today as well he should.
With love to you all
Jane and Geoff.


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Partridge
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 03:36 PM

wish I could have been there, reds one of my favourite colours. A hard day Andrea still thinking of you, love

Pat xxxxx


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 03:58 PM


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 04:06 PM

Eh? That should have been something like:
Thanks, Andrea, for the example.
xxx


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: skarpi
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 04:26 PM

Love and hugs in this hard day , I am thinking
about you and yours on this day.

all the best Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: nutty
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 05:21 PM

My thoughts were with you all today as well.


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: skipy
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 05:41 PM

Thought about you many times today, told the story in my local tonight when somebody said "penny for them" resulted in nine of my mates, strangers to you of course, raising their glasses to you and to a man they did not know.
Be strong, best regards Skipy


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: mouldy
Date: 31 Mar 07 - 04:19 AM

The morning after the funeral, and I am taking stock of the mountain of debris from the wake that sort of happened last night.
We got back from the hotel about tea time in dribs and drabs, courtesy of Ian's sister who ferried the family back. Of course, my kids were the last back, and they had got Angela to detour via the local co-op minimart. Pink bubbly, wine, beers, snacks and pizzas arrived. Earler in the day I had given my new son-in -law a 13 year old bottle of Thomas Hardy's Ale(12%) which I'd bought Ian as a curiosity and that he'd totally forgotten about. It got opened, and although it was somewhat on the turn, being very sickly and otherwise indescribable, a few sips were had, and a toast made. Then there was the gift pack of Leffe. Let me just say that the youger element, and then later us and our next door neighbours, gave him an Ian style party. "For he's a jolly good fellow" was sung several times, speeches were made, and our VERY drunk older daughter was hatching plans with her cousin to send Ian across the globe in very small amounts with any of their travelling acquaintances who was willing, and to write a book about it from Ian's point of view! I ended up between 12.30am and 1am ferrying pissheads home! I was even able to have a chat with our local milkman who delivers about 1am, and who hadn't been able to make the funeral.

We were very pleased to see so many of our friends there, and wearing red. Even the staff at the hotel had asked if they could too. The Rector had said "We'll make sure we give the lad a good send off", and both he and Mike, another priest, who happens to live in my village and who has known us all the time we've been here, made sure of it. I'm pleased to say that the organist played Lord of the Dance at the "proper" speed too. I had visions of various folk musicians desperately trying somehow to up the tempo if he didn't. Not only that, courtesy of Google, (and Mudcat), our best man who we hadn't seen for about 20 years, posted up as a guest and made contact! (Paul Warwick).

I have been overwhelmed by what Ian's work colleagues have said about him. He as been described as irreplaceable, which is often a platitude tossed out at times like this, but they have explained the situation to me, and he IS! Nobody else has the broad level of skill, experience and expertise in the fields he was working in. They told me that he had wanted to go to that mine and was really pleased to be there, to be able to crack on with the job he was involved in. It was one of many he was needing to visit...wrong pit, wrong time...such is life.
His company has compiled a file of messages of condolence that have been received from all over the world, and are talking of a second. I also have a pile of letters that have been sent direct to me. The ultimate tribute is hopefully going to be paid next month at a local beer festival - he is to have a beer named for him, and the proceeds from its sale are to be sent to the disaster fund. I haven't yet counted the collection from the church, but I have around £300 in cheques that have been sent to me, and I have been told that the donations that have been made via the company account have reached into four figures: people have been asking for money to be deducted direct from any payments they were due.

The support from the Mudcat has been so helpful. It's like a comfort blanket that you can put round and slip into when you feel you need it. I tend to go on first thing in the morning at the moment, because that seems to be the time when I, as an early riser, have time to dwell on what's happened. I take a cup of coffee and some tissues, boot up the computer, greet (or often roundly curse) Ian to his face, as I have a picture of him pulling a face on the desktop, check my emails and then log on. Everybody has warned me of the dark days that WILL come, and I think I am ready to face them - I have no choice - but I'm not facing them alone.

Thanks guys

Andrea


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: Megan L
Date: 31 Mar 07 - 04:44 AM

Andrea you give him fits lass :) i remember going upstairs one day to hear my father talking (I was brought up in a non swearing household). when i sneaked a look in his room it was mums photograph beside the bed he was talking to demanding how the hell she could go and leave him alone. they had been together 63 years.

there may be dark days but remember everyone is different never let anyone force you to conform. we were down in london for my nieces wedding when we got word my brother had died. dauvitt and i flew home first and spent the night with Sis in law watching home movies especially the wedding video where theo had put on shoes that had been in the cupboard for years and can clearly be seen walking across the lawn of this castle with the sole flapping merrily in the wind.

hold on to good memories and daft moments they see you through God bless
Dauvitt and his Meg


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Mar 07 - 04:52 AM

Andrea, you have been blessed with a loving and supportive family, and an inner strength that few of us could aspire to.
Bless you for your posts, and the lessons in humility you've taught me.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: skarpi
Date: 31 Mar 07 - 06:22 AM

Andrea , I agree what John Giok just wrote , like I said before
you are a strong soul , even though you have to like you said go through
the " hard " days , you only getting stronger person

I surely hope that I get the honor to meet you in person
someday in the future .
God bless you all.
All the best Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 Mar 07 - 06:34 AM

Thank us? Okay......You're welcome. But more to the point, thank you Andrea for showing us how to celebrate a life.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mouldy's husband killed in Russian mine
From: fat B****rd
Date: 31 Mar 07 - 07:21 AM

I couldn't have said it better than catspaw, Andrea.
Best regards from Charlie S.


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