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Subject: BS: what is love From: GUEST,pimpleontheaof the universe Date: 16 Jan 04 - 07:54 AM tell me.. i need to understand something that has been far away for too long.. potaotu |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Morticia Date: 16 Jan 04 - 07:59 AM What kind of love? That of a friend, a child, a partner, a parent? They are all different aspects of the same thing, though I suppose. Love, very simply defined, is,IMO, putting the wellbeing of the loved person above your own....up to and including laying down your life for theirs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: GUEST Date: 16 Jan 04 - 08:11 AM A chemical and hormonal imbalance that completely fucks up your whole day, or life if you allow it to control you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Dave the Gnome Date: 16 Jan 04 - 08:15 AM What is this thing called love? What is this thing called, love? What! Is this thing called love? :D |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Bassic Date: 16 Jan 04 - 08:21 AM And then there is the "In love" part of it. The feelings that would normaly be seen as inapropriate towards a child or parent, but are also more than just sexual lust. The incredible intimacy and feeling of being "one" with another person. Suffocating for some people but hugely fulfilling and rewarding for many others. An almost purely emotional bond that has little or nothing to do with logic or duty. |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: GUEST,weerover Date: 16 Jan 04 - 08:28 AM Failure to score any points in tennis wr |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Bassic Date: 16 Jan 04 - 08:28 AM And then there is this................... WHAT IS LOVE? Lyrics I love you whether or not you love me I love you even if you think that I don't Sometimes I find you doubt my love for you, but I don't mind Why should I mind, Why should I mind Chorus What is Love anyway, does anybody love anybody anyway What is Love anyway, does anybody love anybody anyway Can anybody love anyone so much that they will never fear Never worry never be sad The answer is they cannot love this much nobody can This is why I don't mind you doubting And maybe love is letting people be just what they want to be The door always must be left unlocked To love when circumstance may lead someone away from you And not to spend the time just doubting Howard Jones |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: GUEST,pimpleontheaof the universe Date: 16 Jan 04 - 08:35 AM thanks guys.. these words are nectar to my.. er ears pimpleotaotu |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: MarkS Date: 16 Jan 04 - 09:02 AM According to the old song What is love? Five feet of heaven in a ponytail The cutest ponytail That sways with a wiggle when she walks Anybody remember the group? I don't. After all, the song is almost as old as I am Mark |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: *daylia* Date: 16 Jan 04 - 09:14 AM Love is a soft warm purring contented A cold beer on a hot day? Music without tears? Nah ... love is whatever it's understood to be at any given moment ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: kendall Date: 16 Jan 04 - 09:19 AM definition of perfect love A tennis game between Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Chief Chaos Date: 16 Jan 04 - 10:08 AM Jonhn Lennon's thoughts on the subject: Love Love is real, real is love Love is feeling, feeling love Love is wanting to be loved Love is touch, touch is love Love is reaching, reaching love Love is asking to be loved Love is you You and me Love is knowing We can be Love is free, free is love Love is living, living love Love is needing to be loved I hope you find what you're looking for, I did 15.5 years ago. I wouldn't have made it this long without her. |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: mack/misophist Date: 16 Jan 04 - 10:36 AM Morticia had it almost dead on. The great researcher, Harry Harlow, once said that love is a condition where another's happiness is a prerequisit to one's own. After years of thought, the only possibly improvement I can see would be to add 'and welfare' to the quote. If you do, though, keep in mind that the other person has to be the only judge of what that is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: CarolC Date: 16 Jan 04 - 11:26 AM I experience it as an energy frequency. I can choose to align myself with that frequency or not. If I align myself with that frequency, I radiate it outward and others can experience it as well. Everybody can do this, whether or not there are others around for them to share it with. |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Amos Date: 16 Jan 04 - 01:00 PM A scale of attitudes ranging from complete coexistence without hindrance, through the interposition of various barriers such as space and time down to complete invisibility. |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Justa Picker Date: 16 Jan 04 - 01:19 PM Title of a Howard Jones song. |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: GUEST,Boab D Date: 16 Jan 04 - 01:47 PM Thr feling that you get when you with out knowing it or understanding why you become a prick and change from the person who the other liked you for to the fanny that you become. Well maybe thats just what I do and I shouldn't but in reallity I think that love (between a man and a woman)is when you can look that person in the eye and not be frightened of what they think of you and that they know all the bad about you as well as all the good and accept you for it. More importantly they are the same with you. Complete honesty, trust and intimacy Dylan |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Homeless Date: 16 Jan 04 - 01:48 PM MarkS- The group was The Playmates. lyrics |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Bill D Date: 16 Jan 04 - 03:05 PM In 1964, I got an "A" on a psychology paper about love, in which I mentioned Morty's basic definition, so I'm sure it must be right! (The basic premise of the paper was to dispute a current pop-psychology book which claimed that no one could experience 'romantic love' with more than one person at a time) |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: John MacKenzie Date: 16 Jan 04 - 03:33 PM What is love? An elusive thing, The joys of which, the poets sing. To some its all, it's pure perfection To others it's just, a mental erection. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: GUEST, heric Date: 16 Jan 04 - 03:42 PM Love can be many more things than altruism, too. It can be a celebration of the universal spirit, thereby permitting uncalculated joy from the good luck of others. It can also foster compassion and forgiving, with or without altruistic effects. Lesser "love," as Little Hawk pointed out elsewhere recently, is usually a social contract with a host of conditions, or the biochemical disturbances referenced above. |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 16 Jan 04 - 03:57 PM If it's all the same to everyone, I think I'll pass on the "willing to die for" bit. "Willing to be made somewhat uncomfortable for" is okay. Bruce |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: GUEST Date: 16 Jan 04 - 04:15 PM its wonderful, its stressful, it painless, its pain, its caring, its hurtful, its happiness, its sadness, its devotion, its selfishness, it's peace, its anger, its giving, its taking, its all of this and much more then its real LOVE |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Jan 04 - 04:58 PM Love is the highest impulse in Life, and it is the source of all Life. It is the highest intelligence and wisdom, put into action. It is the giver of meaning and the heart of all useful purpose. It is that which recognizes in the Other the same that is recognized in Self...the most intimate awareness of complete unity and shared meaning and value on every level. Love says "There is only One of us here. You are that One, and so am I, and so are all others. Together we are far greater than the sum of our apparently separate identities. Together we are magnificence. Apart, we wait only to rediscover that we are One and inseparable, united by Love." Or were you talking about Hollywood romance? :-) To think that Love can arise only as an emotional/biological response to another specific human being is naive. That's just a fragment of what Love is, but it can be a very nice fragment if handled wisely. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: open mike Date: 16 Jan 04 - 05:05 PM EROS PATHOS BATHOS or something like these//this describes different "forms" (?) of love romantic/sexual caring/sympathetic and ?? or is it all just pathetic? correct my Greek or Roman or Latin if you have a better take on it... my memory banks may be rusty...do not feel really in touch with this topic at the moment... |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Bill D Date: 16 Jan 04 - 05:22 PM Eros, Agape, & Philia |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: open mike Date: 16 Jan 04 - 05:36 PM 4 entries found for pathos. pa·thos (pths, -thôs) n. 1. A quality, as of an experience or a work of art, that arouses feelings of pity, sympathy, tenderness, or sorrow. 2. The feeling, as of sympathy or pity, so aroused. pathos \Pa"thos\, n. 1. The quality or character of those emotions, traits, or experiences which are personal, and therefore restricted and evanescent; transitory and idiosyncratic dispositions or feelings as distinguished from those which are universal and deep-seated in character; -- opposed to ethos. 2. Suffering; the enduring of active stress or affliction. \Pa"thos\, n. [L., from Gr. pa`qos a suffering, passion, fr. ?, ?, to suffer; cf. ? toil, L. pati to suffer, E. patient.] That quality or property of anything which touches the feelings or excites emotions and passions, esp., that which awakens tender emotions, such as pity, sorrow, and the like; contagious warmth of feeling, action, or expression; pathetic quality; as, the pathos of a picture, of a poem, or of a cry. pathos n 1: a quality that arouses emotions (especially pity or sorrow); "the film captured all the pathos of their situation" [syn: poignancy] 2: a feeling of sympathy and sorrow for the misfortunes of others; "the blind are too often objects of pity" [syn: commiseration, pity, ruth] 3: a style that has the power to evoke feelings |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: GUEST,heric Date: 16 Jan 04 - 05:37 PM Yeah, what Little Hawk said, exactly. I love you, man. |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: open mike Date: 16 Jan 04 - 05:40 PM 7 entries found for eros. Er·os (rs, îr-) n. 1. Greek Mythology. The god of love, son of Aphrodite. 2. often eros Creative, often sexual yearning, love, or desire: "The new playful eros means that impulses and modes from other spheres enter the relations between men and women" (Herbert Gold). 3. 1. Psychiatry. Sexual drive; libido. 2. The sum of all instincts for self-preservation. [Latin Ers, from Greek, from ers, sexual love.] eros ( P ) eros: eros \E"ros\, n. [L., fr. Gr. ? love, ? (personified) Eros, fr. ? to love.] (Greek Myth.) Love; the god of love; -- by earlier writers represented as one of the first and creative gods, by later writers as the son of Aphrodite, equivalent to the Latin god Cupid. eros n : (Greek mythology) god of love; son of Aphrodite; identified with Roman Cupid [syn: Eros] eros, LA (town, FIPS 24215) Location: 32.39222 N, 92.42431 W Population (1990): 177 (76 housing units) Area: 2.6 sq km (land), 0.0 sq km (water) Zip code(s): 71238 eros sounds like a good place to go! (or to send valentines to be postmarked) |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: open mike Date: 16 Jan 04 - 05:48 PM funny this---agape' or a-gape....same spelling different meaning.. 5 entries found for agape. a·gape1 adv. & adj. 1. In a state of wonder or amazement, as with the mouth wide open. 2. Wide open. a·ga·pe2 (ä-gäp, äg-p) n. 1. Christianity. Love as revealed in Jesus, seen as spiritual and selfless and a model for humanity. 2. Love that is spiritual, not sexual, in its nature. 3. Christianity. In the early Christian Church, the love feast accompanied by Eucharistic celebration. [Greek agap, love.] \A*gape"\, adv. & a. [Pref. a- + gape.] Gaping, as with wonder, expectation, or eager attention. Dazzles the crowd and sets them all agape. --Milton. agape \Ag"a*pe\, n.; pl. Agap[ae]. [Gr. 'aga`ph love, pl. 'aga`pai.] The love feast of the primitive Christians, being a meal partaken of in connection with the communion. agape adj : with the mouth wide open as in wonder or awe; "the gaping audience"; "we stood there agape with wonder"; "with mouth agape" [syn: agape(p), gaping] n : a religious meal shared as a sign of love and fellowship [syn: love feast] |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Joybell Date: 16 Jan 04 - 05:57 PM A bright elusive butterfly Like a red, red rose/nose Like a melody that's sweetly sung in tune Where you find it A golden ring Not a Summer romance, or the kiss that follows the dance A many splended thing A sunburnt country Strange |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: open mike Date: 16 Jan 04 - 06:01 PM if "LOVE" is just B.S. we are in a heck of a fix!@ these definaitions from the onl line dictionery seem to lack something: 1 entry found for philia.-philia--suff. 1. Tendency toward: hemophilia. 2. Abnormal attraction to: necrophilia. [New Latin, from Greek -phili : -philos, -phile + -i, -ia.] i think they missed the point on this one... |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: harvey andrews Date: 16 Jan 04 - 06:17 PM A chemical reaction in the brain necessary for the continuation of the species. or; Sexual intercourse began In nineteen sixty three (Which was rather late for me) - Between the end of the "Chatterley" ban And the Beatles first LP. Up till then there'd only been A sort of bargaining, A wrangle for a ring, A shame that started at sixteen And spread to everything Then all at once the quarrel sank: Everyone felt the same, And every life became A brilliant breaking of the bank A quite unlosable game. So life was never better than In nineteen sixty-three (Though just too late for me) - Between the end of the "Chatterley" ban And the Beatles first LP by Philip Larkin And if you're lucky, after the brain chemicals disperse and real life returns from insanity you'll have a relationship that feels like; "A brilliant breaking of the bank A quite unlosable game." |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Micca Date: 16 Jan 04 - 06:33 PM Love is … Love is feeling cold in the back of vans Love is a fanclub with only two fans Love is walking holding paintstained hands Love is Love is fish and chips on winter nights Love is blankets full of strange delights Love is when you don't put out the light Love is Love is presents in Christmas shops Love is when you're feeling Top of the Pops Love is what happens when the music stops Love is Love is white panties lying all forlorn Love is a pink nightdress still slightly warm Love is when you have to leave at dawn Love is Love is you and love is me Love is a prison and love is free Love's what's there when you're away from me Love is copyright: Adrian Henri |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: kendall Date: 16 Jan 04 - 09:59 PM Some say it's a pain in the neck. I have a much lower opinion of it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: NobleSavage Date: 16 Jan 04 - 10:33 PM Some definitions from the classical Greek-- agape: unconditional love; usually used in a theological context (usually Christian) philia: love between friends; amiability storge: parental affection; love of parents for children eros: sexual love usually driven by physical attraction. Remember that these definitions were heavily culturally dependant--they can be used to amplify the word "love" as used in English, but are encapsulated within it, but do not substitute for it. The way the word is used today seems to be context sensitive--I think it best to ask the person what he or she means by it. . . So, what do *you* mean when you say love? NS |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: LadyJean Date: 16 Jan 04 - 11:46 PM I felt physical pain once, I loved a man so much. He wasn't particularly interested in me. My romances tend to be one sided. I remember, sometimes it hurt, when I thought of him. I see him every now and then. He's married to another lady. I can't say it bothers me. It doesn't hurt when I think about him anymore. |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: John MacKenzie Date: 17 Jan 04 - 06:16 AM Lady Jean that's unrequieted love, and I find the older I become the more unrequieted it gets. John |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE SATURDAY BOY (Billy Bragg) From: Ed. Date: 17 Jan 04 - 07:06 AM John's mention of unrequieted reminds me of a great song about first love: The Saturday Boy (Billy Bragg) I'll never forget the first day I met her That September morning was clear and fresh The way she spoke and laughed at my jokes And the way she rubbed herself Against the edge of my desk She became a magic mystery to me And we'd sit together in double History twice a week And some days we'd walk the same way home And it's surprising how quick A little rain can clear the streets We dreamed of her and compared our dreams But that was all that I ever tasted She lied to me with her body you see I lied to myself 'bout the chances I'd wasted The times we were close Were far and few between In the darkness at the dances in the school canteen Did she close her eyes like I did As we held each other tight And la la la la la la la la means I love you She danced with me and I still hold that memory Soft and sweet And I stare up at her window As I walk down her street But I never made the first team, I just made the first team laugh And she never came to the phone She was always in the bath I had to look in the dictionary To find out the meaning of unrequited While she was giving herself for free At a party to which I was never invited I never understood my failings then And I hide my humble hopes now Thinking back she made us want her A girl not old enough to shave her legs From www.billybragg.co.uk |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: GUEST,Boab Date: 17 Jan 04 - 10:10 AM Treacle rinnin doon yer back, an' ye cannae reach roond tae lick it----- |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Jeanie Date: 17 Jan 04 - 11:58 AM Little Hawk - Thank you. I have written out your very eloquent and very true definition of Love into my book of readings and quotes, so that I can read it over again. One of my favourite poems, that has had pride of place for some years in my little book of quotes, is the poem by Leo Marks, which to me conveys that same essence you speak of: a positive, powerful, eternal interconnectedness between every one and every thing, so much so that they are One. That, to me, is Love. The life that I have Is all that I have, And the life that I have is yours. The love that I have Of the life that I have Is yours, and yours, and yours. A sleep I shall have, A rest I shall have, Yet death will be but a pause, For the peace of my years In the long, green grass Will be yours, and yours, and yours. With Love - jeanie |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Jeanie Date: 17 Jan 04 - 12:51 PM Ooh, and I must add this very well-known definition of love, which shows just what can happen when that essence is put into action: 'Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. Love does not demand its own way. Love is not irritable, and it keeps no record of when it has been wronged. It is never glad about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.' I once read a very challenging suggestion: To read this regularly, and to substitute your own name every time the word 'love' appears in the text, check it against yourself and make any necessary adjustments ! Oohh.... With Love (again) - jeanie |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Ed. Date: 17 Jan 04 - 12:57 PM substitute your own name every time the word 'love' appears in the text: Ed is patient and kind. Ed is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. Ed does not demand his own way. Ed is not irritable, and he keeps no record of when it has been wronged. Ed is never glad about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. Ed never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. Ed sounds like a really nice guy. I'd like to meet him... |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Lyrical Lady Date: 17 Jan 04 - 01:24 PM I'd like to meet him too! LL |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: GUEST Date: 17 Jan 04 - 06:25 PM Homeless -- Thanks for your post. 1959. Arrrrgh!!!!! Mark |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: GUEST,pimpleontheaoftheuniverse Date: 17 Jan 04 - 09:08 PM hi this thread has been great. now I feel one - one with the millions of pimples on the a.. potaotu i think the only wau this question can be answered in through personal experience.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Micca Date: 17 Jan 04 - 10:16 PM I am not at all sure what love IS, but I think I am gradually getting an idea of what it is NOT!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: Lyrical Lady Date: 18 Jan 04 - 02:29 AM |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: kendall Date: 18 Jan 04 - 11:47 PM Niagra Falls...slowly I turn, step by step... |
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Subject: RE: BS: what is love From: GUEST Date: 19 Jan 04 - 08:57 AM Love is... a warm fluffy pink blanket of a thing. |
