10th Saddleworth Festival, 2007

Subject: Saddleworth Festival
From: VIN
Date: 04 Jan 07 - 07:37 AM

Bit early i know but looking at the SAFRA website it looks a fab line-up for the 10th Saddleworth Folk Festival in July, take a look! 10 years - hard to beleive eh?

Subject: RE: Saddleworth Festival
From: GUEST,John Robinson
Date: 04 Jan 07 - 12:01 PM

http://www.safra.org.uk/

Subject: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 04:25 PM

Anyone coming to Saddleworth this year? It's my last one, so I made sure that there were going to be loads and loads of singers! Waterson Carthy, Wilsons, Strawhead, Dave Webber and Anni Fentiman, Bill Whaley and Dave Fletcher, Jez Lowe, Muldoon's Picnic, Scolds Bridle, Hissyfit, Bryony - to mention just a few!!!

And we'll have a Festival CD on sale to celebrate - with local artists on, besides the big names (the ones I've already mentioned plus Eric Bogle, Show of Hands, John Tams, John Wright, Roy Bailey, Kerfuffle and Clive Gregson). It's a double CD for just £10, so not too bad I think?

Please come along and help me celebrate my last year - I'll be the one crying into my Jamieson's!!!

Ali

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Willa
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 04:58 PM

Never made it yet but I have heard so much about how good it is that I'll be trying my best to get there this year. Particularly like that Hissyfit outfit!

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: nutty
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 06:09 PM

I'll definitely be there this year, Ali.

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: muppitz
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 07:23 PM

As far as I'm aware I'm a Moor & Coast bitch again so I'll be there!

muppitz
x

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Mr Sooz
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 02:26 AM

We'll be there.

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Raggytash
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 03:46 AM

Just a thought ........ when is it, where is it, how much is it, a link to your wonderful web site might be an idea!

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: MBSLynne
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:11 AM

10th Saddleworth? I'm sure I went to Saddleworth in the mid 1980s.

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 08:29 AM

Yep, got me ticket. Should be a really fab 10th anniversary. I've only missed one and can reccomend the event to anyone - the web site is www.safra.or.uk. Won't be with me old mate Jim Riley (another regular)this year as he was sadly killed in an accident recently so i'll personally dedicate this year's bash to him (rip).

Sorry it's your last year Ali - presume you mean in an official capacity (hope you're still going to grace us with your presence in the future).

Lets all put a request in with the 'creator of the universe and all things as we know it' for sunny weather.

Sithee all there mateys,

Vin

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 08:37 AM

Sorry the web address is www.safra.org.uk and having a few probs with my membership at the mo which is why i'm showing a GUEST - doh!

Vin

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Vin2
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 09:31 AM

P.P.S The cd's a grand idea tooo - not b4 time in my 'umble opinion! Couple of names i'd lurv to see performing at future festivals....Ian Reynolds & friends (plays at the Oddfellows in Middleton on Monday nights), Des Friel, James Yorkston, Tom Baxter.

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:47 PM

Thanks Nick - Saddleworth is on the edge of Yorkshire (although others disagree, which is why we have a Wars of the Roses!) It's half way between Oldham and Huddersfield, on the Pennines - very beautiful area. And the weekend is July 20th - 22nd.

You definitely didn't come to the festival in the mid 80's Lynne - I've been involved since the 1st one, which was in 1998.

Vin2 - you'll have to speak to some of the committee over the weekend. See you all then,
Ali

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: MBSLynne
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:04 PM

It's not the same as Saddleworth rush carting then? That's what I went to. Would have been 1984 I think.

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Raggytash
Date: 30 Jun 07 - 03:00 AM

http://www.safra.org.uk

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Raggytash
Date: 30 Jun 07 - 06:45 AM

http://safra.org.uk

Hopefully this one will work

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 30 Jun 07 - 02:06 PM

No Lynne - that's a fantastic weekend at the end of August, but just the rushcart and dancers - nothing to do with the folk festival. Some of the local teams do dance for us as well.
Ali

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 30 Jun 07 - 04:31 PM

I'd love to hear what Mudcatters think about a problem we've never resolved in Saddleworth - do we put the programme of events on the website or not?

I'd really like to, as I do check other festival websites, but some of the committee are worried that it could reduce sales of the Festival Programme, which is potentially a source of income.

Would you buy a Programme if you already knew what was going to happen over the weekend, or not?

Ali

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Mr Sooz
Date: 01 Jul 07 - 04:09 AM

Yes

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: selby
Date: 01 Jul 07 - 05:17 AM

Yes in our case it made our mind up about going to Warwick as who we wanted to see was not on on the Sunday night when we would be returning home.Also Beverley we made plans knowing when Bellowhead where on. I think people who buy programmes buy them any way, knowing it supports the festival.
Keith

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 01 Jul 07 - 10:33 AM

Yes Alio I definitely think you should put the programme on the website.

Most other festivals with any cred do, and (I hear reliably) this does little if anything to the detriment of programme sales.
I always buy a programme, whether I already have the content of the all-important "middle pages" in advance or not. Yes Keith is absolutely right, most folkies will buy a programme to support the festival and as a souvenir, also to get all that extra information such as maps, local adverts and biog details that don't appear on the website in most cases.
The big bonus point though is that folks can make plans based on more accurate programme information from the website, they can be sure of coming on the right day/evening to see specific artistes or participate in a specific workshop or singaround (how infuriating are the sites that just say "plus workshops, singarounds, sessions" then when you arrive you've just missed one...).
If I'm travelling a longer distance, I really do need to know whether planning to arrive in a strange town at - say - midday on the Saturday will mean I miss a vital event or whether the local streets would be closed for a parade etc etc. And on a Friday, whether events start up from midday or from 7 pm...

But probably most important, the festivals concerned end up getting more revenue from those folks who are pre-informed, who will then come and enjoy with confidence and then next year perhaps decide to buy a whole weekend ticket because they were so impressed with the festival and its user-friendly publicity and attitude this year...

So - go for it, Alio!

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Willa
Date: 01 Jul 07 - 03:22 PM

I always buy a programme and since sometimes I can only make a day visit it's a great help if I know which day's events are the most to my taste. I had a packed day at a recent festival because I was able to get there in time for a morning w/shop - would have missed a couple of enjoyable events had I waited until I got there.

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 01 Jul 07 - 07:45 PM

I was already convinced, but now you've made these commnents, I'll take it back to our webmaster! More power to my elbow now!

Ali

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: GUEST,old git
Date: 02 Jul 07 - 05:05 AM

I fully endorse Moorleyman's comments

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: nutty
Date: 02 Jul 07 - 05:52 PM

Saw Muldoon's Picnic at FOUR FOOLS FESTIVAL and now have another reason for not missing Saddleworth this year.

Ali - I agree that its useful to know in advance what will happen and when,. I buy a programme for details of performers and other info as well as for times of events etc.

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 02 Jul 07 - 07:38 PM

Thanks all of you. I'm really looking forward to seeing Muldoon's Picnic again too Hazel - they were fantastic at Fylde last year. It's great to see young singers perform.
Ali

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Mr Happy
Date: 03 Jul 07 - 10:32 AM

How's condition of the campsite? - Any flood problems?

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 03 Jul 07 - 12:20 PM

It's fine - just wet at the moment. Heopfully there'll be plenty of time for it to dry out - it gets waterlogged very quickly, but then dries out just as quickly.
What are you trying to say anyway? You know it's always sunny here in God's country!!!
Ali

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Vin2
Date: 03 Jul 07 - 12:45 PM

I've usually send extra dosh with the ticket money for an advance copy of the programme so i can plan ahead (hasn't arrived yet tho - no worries) so putting the programme on the web is an excellent idea and i'd still buy the programme (promise!)for the news and to collect. They may be worth a fortune on bargain hunt in years to come!

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 03 Jul 07 - 04:47 PM

I insist of the campsite being waterlogged as I am now conditioned to living in sodden conditions-have my own bucket and webbed feet.

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 03 Jul 07 - 05:17 PM

I'll put an order in for your section of the campsite Linda! Can't wait to see you both again.

Ali

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 04 Jul 07 - 06:15 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Soldier boy
Date: 06 Jul 07 - 07:00 AM

This is a Great festival. I recommend it to everyone. I'll be there.

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 06 Jul 07 - 06:46 PM

Cheers Soldier Boy - see you in the Festival Office. I'll be the one selling the Festiaal CD's probably! Geoff's picking them up tonight.

Ali

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Soldier boy
Date: 06 Jul 07 - 09:37 PM

Thanks Alio.
What I really like about the Saddleworth Folk Festival is that it is all inclusive.
What I mean by that is that concert goers and the FRINGE are all fully catered for. Too many festivals for my liking exclude 'The Fringe' and will provide camping for only season/weekend ticket holders only. This festival is different in that it is open house to everyone.
You can camp for the whole festival for just £10.00 or pay £5.00 per person per night wether you are are ticket holder or not.
To me this is the correct diplomacy that all festivals should adopt.
I do believe that a true and proper festival should cater for all tastes and not exclude (as so many do, 'the fringe')
If you have been to this festival before you will know that the fringe in terms of sing-arounds and musician sessionns is par- excellence in the local pubs (especially in the waggon and horses (I think it is called that!) and what great sessions we have had there. (please correct me if i have got this venue wrong)
Anyway, enjoy this festival to the full. You will not be dissapointed. I promise.

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 07:44 PM

Thanks for this Soldier Boy, and I fully endorse your comments re the importance of the "fringe" events, which to me make the real atmosphere of the weekend. Visitors to Saddleworth, even if they hadn't known about the festival in advance, can't help but be drawn in. Therefore "fringe" supporters have to be given equal value by the festival committee, and that includes equal access to the camping facilities.

Ali

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Vin2
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 01:37 PM

Yep, sounds about right!

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Folkiedave
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 02:31 PM

As far as I am aware there are not many festivals that exclude fringes. Can you name one? Most make special provision. Shrewsbury for instance has a bus to take people into town for fringe events - and Warwick usually has a double decker. Both only offer camping for season ticket holders. One charges extra for camping - the other doesn't.

I am sure both would provide cheap camping had they got space but they don't and haven't ever in my experience at Warwick.

I have been to three festivals this year so far and only one had space for non-season ticket holders, (but wouldn't have had they sold more tickets of any kind), and one in particular once the festival got under way the campsite was - to all intents and purposes - as full as a chip, despite its size.

Some festivals and I can think of at least two - don't offer camping of any sort. Others, like Shrewsbury, charge extra for it.

To describe one festival as "correct diplomacy that all festival should adopt " when some festivals can't do this whether they want to or not - and to say I do believe that a true and proper festival should cater for all tastes and not exclude (as so many do, 'the fringe') seems narrow-minded to me when you are claiming to be all-inclusive.

So perhaps for the benefit of people who want to know these things, you would be kind enough to tell us which festivals you regard as "proper" and offering the "correct diplomacy" and those that don't cater for all tastes?

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: wiggy
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 03:11 PM

Hope to be with you. is the camp site fit yet?
Dont know if the Poms are coming over yet.

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Pistachio
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 03:55 PM

Unpacked and repacked after Cleckheaton!
Ready for the M62 expedition. I hope there's a following wind!
Preparing for t' war!
11 days and counting.
H.

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:00 PM

Soggy campsite - well in tht case better make way for the Ducks :0) We'll be there.

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:32 PM

Apparently there was some rumour goung around Cleckie that Saddlewroth is cancelled - well it definitely isn't!!! I'm doing the PRS stuff as we speak (unfortunately!!)

it was the Saddleworth Summer Show which was cancelled - they use the same ground as we do for the campsite. But I've been down there today, and it's fine for camping - drying out nicely. It gets wet very quickly but dries out even quicker, thank goodness.

So if you do hear this rumour, will you put people right please?!!

And the Festival CD looks - and sounds - brilliant! I'm really chuffed with it!

Ali x

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: John Routledge
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:38 PM

Being a trusting soul Ali I am bringing my tent
All we need is a dry spell to put it up.:0)
Pl reserve me a CD.

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 05:42 PM

Course John - you'll like it, I promise.

And if it does rain ever so slightly I'll hold my umbrella over you while you put the tent up (for a glass of Jamieson's)!!

Ali x

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: r.padgett
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 07:05 PM

is that the Poms from Oz you refer to?

look just roll up your trousers and take off yer socks and hum it!!

Where is Lancashire any way?

Ray

[just back from Barnsley folk club ~ next week Bernard Wrigley, guests for John Booker (65th) who dunt know yit !]

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 07:09 PM

Lancashire, Ray!
It's somewhere West of Saddleworth.
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Folkiedave
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 07:37 PM

I never knew there was somewhere west of Saddleworth.

It says on my map - "Here be dragons".

Mind it is an old map........

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: GUEST,Penny Black
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 08:25 PM

Unfortunately busy on Sat but hope to pay a flying visit on Sun - Hopfully there'll be some CDs left :0)


Pete & John

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: Alio
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 05:12 AM

We've loads of dragons here in Saddleworth - I'm living next door to one!!

And as for you, cheeky Ray Padgett, Saddleworth is in Yorkshire!!! I was born here in Saddleworth, and it says West Riding of Yorkshire on my birth certificate - nearly 150 years ago!!!

CD's should be OK - we've well over 400 left still. I can always put one on the side for anyone who wants one. They're called Ten Years On - Saddleworth Folk Festival Anniversary CD.

Ali

Subject: RE: 10th Saddleworth
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 05:20 AM

I never implied Saddleworth WAS in Lancashire, Ali honest!!

It's that other Lot of Pretenders that want to pinch this Jewel In The Crown, called Saddleworth

Ray

I never said you were 150 yo either (whoops)