BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....

Subject: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Bobert
Date: 12 May 05 - 11:27 PM

Well, well, well...

On another thread which folks way ot may not have checked out, I, the Bobert, have challenged Martin Gibson to a "Battle of the Pickers"...

Rules:

1. Neutral site equidistant between where he is an' where I am...

2. Judges? Whoever shows... Bikers, college kids... Don't matter to me...

Prize:

If Martin wins then I say that George Bush is okay ***but*** when Marrin looses he will say that Bush is a jerk...

Yeah, I am serious about this an' I ain't never heard Martin play... But he ain't heard me neither...

Come on, Martin... Let's rumble...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 May 05 - 11:31 PM

I'll judge! OK?

I'm equidistant, too!

P-Vine makes breakfast for all assembled.... MMario serves lunch featuring cheeses of New York as side dishes to the kosher dogs MG brings from Chicago. Hardi makes dutch-oven frick of chick for supper!

Dorm space-- pay this time, make it a Mudcat fundraiser.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 12 May 05 - 11:36 PM

What happens if the battle of the pickers is won by a nose?

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Bill D
Date: 12 May 05 - 11:36 PM

plunkey, plunk, plunk, plunk, plunk, ^plunk, plunk, plunk---

plunkey, plunk, plunk, plunk, plunk, ^plunk, plunk, plunk---

plunkey, plunk, plunk, plunk, plunk, ^plunk, plunk, --- plunk,
plunkey, plunk, plunk, plunk, plunk, ^plunk,---
, plunk, plunk
plunkey, plunk, plunk, plunk

plunkey, plunk, plunk, plunk---

plunkyplunkplunkyplunkplunkyplunkplunkyplunkplunkyplunkplunkyplunkplunkyplunk.............................

awww....this does it MUCH better

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 12 May 05 - 11:39 PM

"In the Blue corner, Martin Gypsum is sporting a Dunlop flat pick with the end bit cut off.......In the red corner, Bobert is busy hardening his nails with an extra coat of Superglue..."

Yes, I'd love to see that one.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 13 May 05 - 03:57 AM

I hope they won't be playing the theme tune from "Deliverance"

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: mooman
Date: 13 May 05 - 04:02 AM

How about the Getaway Bobert so I can witness this "battle of the giants" too?

Peace

moo

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 May 05 - 04:37 AM

Theres no real way to choose if one guitar picker is better than another. Christy Moore always reckons he does everything with seven guitar chord shapes - and he probably does(did) the best folk gigs in europe.

It would be interesting to know if Martin Gibson is the most potent creation from that source, or if we all have this man's cds in our collections.

In a way, I hope we have. I've always adhered to the view that creativity is as much about what we reject as what we warm to. You know the old Henry Moore adage about everybody who picks an interesting looking stone on the beach is a sculptor, they have rejected the other stones and made a creative choice.

The vehemence with which Martin rejects is sometimes upsetting - like the recent thread on Pete Seeger - who most of us feel should be accorded a degree of reverence.

It would be nice to feel that Martin's views had their basis in a vigorous desire to create, and clear the decks for his own vision - rather than a wish to belittle and destroy.


all the best

big al whittle

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Bobert
Date: 13 May 05 - 07:31 AM

Hey, the Getaway works jus' fine fir me.... And I just got off the phone talkin' with Ted Mack's daughter, Maureen, and she says she'll be glad to rent us the old applause-o-meter that her dad left her...

Might f fact I'm feeling so confident that I'll do my first song completely with my pickin' hand.... Yeah, you heard that right... I'll just give my fretin' hand (left hand) that song to just chill...

So you on fir the Getaway, Marty?

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Davetnova
Date: 13 May 05 - 08:21 AM

Who is that masked man?

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: GUEST
Date: 13 May 05 - 10:14 AM

How about if you agreed on a couple of pieces, and played those.

Powder Rag, for instance.
In a G tuning?

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 May 05 - 11:47 AM

I was thinkin' maybe three pieces: one classical, one blues, one folk. Let 'em put their own style on each. Have independent judges make the call.


"Guitars as 20 paces, at dawn."

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Torctgyd
Date: 13 May 05 - 11:57 AM

Make it really interesting. The loser has to take up the bodhran as well as dissing or upping Bush.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: M.Ted
Date: 13 May 05 - 12:32 PM

Now, here is a problem, Bobert--what will you do if the real Martin Gibson takes you up on this challenge?

Our Martin Gibson, as we all know, is merely a masque, in the sense of a false face, with exaggerated and contrived features, who has taken the name of another, and very real performer/musician while playing his charade--

I mention this because Mudcat is a real music forum, where real musicans, especially folk related musicians often show up-- in much the same way that Damien Barber showed up when his name was invoked, the real Martin Gibson may show--to clear his name and reputation--what then?

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: GUEST
Date: 13 May 05 - 12:35 PM

If he comes to getaway and does a pickers duel with Bobert who cares which one he is?

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 May 05 - 01:20 PM

Oh yeah! Great idea. I'll be there.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: GUEST,MTed
Date: 13 May 05 - 02:16 PM

So now we have options! If our fake Martin Gibson plays hard to get, we can go for the real one!

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Bobert
Date: 13 May 05 - 06:34 PM

Fake 'er real? Heck, don't matter to me... 'Course the real might not be a big Bushite so the duel might be a tad less intense but, hey, seein' as I has issued the challenge, I stick by it, 'cause my pickin' hand is one bad, bad motor scooter... Lot smarter about that stuff than I am, that's fir sure.... And it delights in remindin' me of that on a daily basis.... I don't care just so long as it don't quit on me....

Oh, just a word to the other/real Martin Gibson... You know, the one who ain't writing a bunch of dumbass stuff on the Mudville walls when folks ain't lookin'.... Ahhhh, Mr. Gibson, ahhhh, excuse me fir not knowin' about you but I'm sure yer one fine player and one fine person as well an' I ain't got no ill feelin's about you.... None... And I'd be sho nuff honored if you'd come to the Getaway and maybe you an' I could jus' do a little battle of the picker's if yer fake don't show.... Or even if he does... We could have a tag-team duel and I could bring a friend to be on my team....

Meanwhile, the deafening silence from our MG continues....

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: DougR
Date: 13 May 05 - 06:37 PM

Uh, Bobert. You really think you could find a single unbiased judge here on the Mudcat? Martin's popularity as a poster would likely influence the voting a bit I think.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: John Hardly
Date: 13 May 05 - 06:49 PM

I'm the only one truly objective enough to judge such a duel. I wish I could make it. It would be a great service to peace -- a long-held goal of mine. Alas, I will be too busy with my new "Hands Across the Globe" project. I'm still looking for a few volunteers for the mid-Pacific area. It requires a big heart and the ability to tread water for a very long time. Some of us organize, others tread water. Peace is worth it.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Bill D
Date: 13 May 05 - 06:59 PM

oh, shucks, John Hardly...put me down (so's to speak)for the Marianas Trench. I'll make a BIG wooden heart and maybe I won't have to tread water.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: John Hardly
Date: 13 May 05 - 07:41 PM

I would have expected no less than such a deeply sincere offering from you, Bill D.

...and brave too, given the recent aquatic demise of Blinken.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: khandu
Date: 13 May 05 - 07:55 PM

Okay...serious question to demonstrate my ignorance. For years, I have heard of the Getaway. Educate me. What is it, where is it & when is it??

ken

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 May 05 - 08:03 PM

Not so, Doug. I like both Martin and Bobert just fine.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Bobert
Date: 13 May 05 - 08:13 PM

Khanny Kingman,

It's like this camp where folks wat lousy food, where ya sleep in unheated cabins in the freezing October nights, where every palce you wanta go is uphill, where ya don't get no sleep fir three days and nights and where a bunch o' old folks who you thought would look and be a lot younger, ahhhh, congregate, play music, tell lies and wonder just what the hell they are doing there???

Yeah, I think that purdy much sums it up...

You in???

Bobert (an' still untitled)

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 May 05 - 08:19 PM

Ah khandu, what a pleasure! Others can give you more information but since I got to go there last year and plan to go again this year, allow me to enthuse!

It is a music camp? festival? No, it is a getaway, set up a long time ago - like 40 years - by the Folklore Society of Greater Washington (Is that right? FSGW) and now frequented also by Mudcatters. It is a WONDERFUL time of music, jamming, workshops, artsy craftsy tables, CD tables, meeting new friends, and chilling out (brrrrrrrrr from Friday evening until about 10:00 Monday morning at Camp Ramblewood in Maryland about 2 hours north of DC.

There are multiple cabins, including the infamous Mudcat Cabin (don't ask), Quiet Cabins, Noisy Cabins and numerous main buildings, including a dining hall. Rita (Ferrara) is the Go To Gal for us.

You get to meet and hear many Folklore Society members as well as far-ranging Mudcats. People come from the UK; Skarpi is coming from Iceland this year; several come from Alaska, some from Michigan and Maine and it is NOT far from Mississippi (or is it 'Missouri'? and from all other points. Do come.

(And now, I will open myself to amplification, correction and mortification.)

Eb

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 May 05 - 08:31 PM

And yes. By mortification, I do mean 'flagellation'. Not "self" however. I have standards.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Alba
Date: 13 May 05 - 08:55 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Bill D
Date: 13 May 05 - 09:42 PM

as to WHERE...it is in Maryland, just off I-95 and just south of the Pennsylvania border...quite handy to the Baltimore-Washington airport (BWI)

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 13 May 05 - 10:09 PM

yes, come, khandu, DO! It's a great musical weekend with fabulous folks!! Check out the photos on the photos page and you'll see. A good time is had by all!!

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 May 05 - 10:16 PM

Just say "kan do", Ken.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: GUEST
Date: 13 May 05 - 11:35 PM

The weasel has disappeared. Big Surprise!

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: number 6
Date: 14 May 05 - 12:08 AM

I think I'd rather put on a Doc Watson cd and listen to it .. then get involved in this.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: GUEST,Rapaire
Date: 14 May 05 - 06:50 PM

Judging? No problem.

Put 'em behind a curtain and don't tell anybody who's which.

Or record 'em and don't label the recordings except "1" and "2".

In fact, make it really fair by doing it "double blind."

You don't even need for 'em to meet if you record 'em.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: GUEST
Date: 14 May 05 - 07:34 PM

If it's about being butt-pickers I say they both tie for the win

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Bobert
Date: 14 May 05 - 08:48 PM

Now, now, GUEST...

As fir listenin' to recordin's, Tap, that ain't gonna cut it... Nah, this one has to be live... That brings out that litgtle bit of extra adenaline an' forces ya to take it to a higher level...

But seems as if Martin has disappeared here lately so as of now, it's a mute point...

But, tell ya what, they got this concert thing at the Getaway and it don't matter if Martin shows 'cause I'll be there and, hey, if I get one song than that will be the one I'll let stand as my offerin' to duel...

And I'll be all over the place in that one song...

But I sho nuff hope our MG decides to bring his stuff...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: freda underhill
Date: 14 May 05 - 08:50 PM

this is enough to get me to the getaway!

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Bobert
Date: 14 May 05 - 09:01 PM

Well, come on wid ya... If ya need a ride from the airport, let me know an' I'll fetch ya....

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: michaelr
Date: 14 May 05 - 11:05 PM

No surprise that our # 1 troll won't respond. Show himself in meat-space? That would take courage.

But Bobert, what's this about the REAL and the FAKE Martin Gibson? Are there two people using the fake name? Or is there an actual musician by that name?? I always figgered OUR MG was a real troll and a fake musician!??!?

Somebuddy please enlighten me.

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Bobert
Date: 14 May 05 - 11:24 PM

Danged if I know, Michael...;. Seems dome folks know of a 'real" Martin Gibson who ain't a jerk and can actually play some fine folk.... Then, if would seem, that we have a wantabee in the Martin Gibson who regularially posts here with a bung of Bushite crap...

Heck if I know who is whom but all I know is that Iz apparently challanged one er both of them to public pickin duel... I hope the Mudville version will show but if the real one shows, hey, since I issued the challenge I gonna do what I can do... Which is pick my brains out... Ahhhhh, firget that that... Didn't come out too good...

Hey, I'll be there and whoever shows Iz gonna take it to the next level... I promise.... An', no matter the turnout, yer gonna wanta be in the concert hall when I take on whomever... MG 'er MG...

So, if yer on the fence about the Getaway, get off it now 'cause Iz comin' and Iz bringin' the fire....

No brag, just fact...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Kaleea
Date: 15 May 05 - 03:55 AM

I'm rooting for you, Bobert! Might I suggest Light Sabers at 20 paces? Or will Martin just come to your door & say, "Bobert, I am your father!"

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Bobert
Date: 15 May 05 - 08:01 AM

Ouch!

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Ron Davies
Date: 15 May 05 - 08:05 AM

This "duel" will never happen, particularly at a Getaway.

1) As a gutless wonder in good standing, realizing that his own guitar prowess is in fact questionable in such company, and with paranoid fantasies to boot, "Martin Gibson" will never show. Consider the facts that he has somehow never managed to summon the courage to stand behind anything he has ever said with his real name, that he whines to higher authority about alleged impersonation of him-- (why anybody would want to is an unanswered question)-- and that he suspects either Bobert or me to be behind anonymous postings he doesn't like. With his delightful attitudes, he no doubt is afraid that some of his teeth might be handed to him (he may not place much credence in folkie pacifism).

2) Since his musical tastes and knowledge are as broad as his attitudes on other subjects, he has no interest in any kind of folk music but bluegrass.

As I noted in another thread, Dry Branch Fire Squad, which combines good solid traditional bluegrass with a wicked dry sense of humor, has a lead singer named Ron Thomason, an English teacher in fact. Ron once observed "We believe in aggressive ignorance in bluegrass music".

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Exhibit A, "Martin Gibson".

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Tweed
Date: 15 May 05 - 08:13 AM

What?? Martin Gibson is the Boberdz father? Stunning news, ...in fact I am stunned more insensible then usual by all this. do what you gotta do Bobert, I'm with you all the way, just take it easy on the old man as you know you'll probably end up eatin' Christmas dinner with him somewhere down the line.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Bobert
Date: 15 May 05 - 09:02 AM

Not sure about Christmas dinner there, Tweezer, as MG claims to be Jewish???

And, yeah, Ron... I fully unnerstand the mindset of the bluegrass player. (Did you say "mind"set, Bobert? Hmmmmm? Like what mind?)

Speakin' of which never*mind* my commentary on bluegrass players...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Ron Davies
Date: 15 May 05 - 10:01 AM

Actually, I really like (and play) bluegrass). Fortunately, "Martin" is by no means representative of bluegrass players. (But I really like Ron Thomasson's turn of phrase.)

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Bobert
Date: 15 May 05 - 10:12 AM

Meant no disrespect there, Ron.... Some of my best friends are bluegrass players... (tongue in cheek).

And recently a few bluegrassers have have popped up, banjo's in tow, at Archie Edwards Barber Shop for the Saturday, ahhhh, *blues* jams... But we still have 'um out nummered...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Tweed
Date: 15 May 05 - 11:01 AM

What's this?? If MG is yore father and is really Jewish, then that means that you is too Boberdz!!! You ain't gonna be able to eat no Christmas ham nor turkey nor possum feet nor nothin' other than kosher dills an' Hebrew Nationals on Christmas day..... You habv really opened yoreself a can o' worms with this deal....I'm still with you though. I can change yore strings faster than you can break 'em. I ain't never tried headbuttin' nobody but whatever it takes, count me in.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Once Famous
Date: 15 May 05 - 12:30 PM

Wow.

Been away for a couple of days to pick up my son and his tons of laundry at college and come back to bobert's insecurities.

Really folks. I've been playing with the best for decades no matter what their political persuasion. bobert might know how to play, but his attitude is still strictly an amateur.

I really wouldn't waste my time on this as I have too much fun playing for fun and money. I have nothing to prove to bobert or anyone except that he really ought to get a real grip on his life both musically and with his family. While he's shooting off his mouth here, I am truly laughing at him and many of you, who need my ficticious name but not necessarily my 100% ficticious life to keep you amused.

But for your entertainment, I will be in the studio tommorrow night working on a new demo and I have a nice gig lined up for next Saturday for a private function. Thanks for all of the attention. It's irrelevant to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert v. Martin Gibson Pickers Duel....
From: Once Famous
Date: 15 May 05 - 12:36 PM

One last thing bobert. You have to be able to play guitar, banjo, upright and electric bass all at the same time like I can before I will meet you in any kind of challange. Playing with just one hand will lose.

Really man, you ought to get your head examined. Just because someone like myself irritates you so bad on a web forum that is the center of your life doesn't mean you have to hang around with guys like Ron Davies who still refers to his first Mel Bay book in order to figure out how to hold a pick.