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BS: Ashes

John MacKenzie 03 Dec 06 - 10:43 AM
John MacKenzie 03 Dec 06 - 10:44 AM
Rasener 03 Dec 06 - 11:22 AM
The Sandman 03 Dec 06 - 03:44 PM
The Fooles Troupe 03 Dec 06 - 07:35 PM
John O'L 03 Dec 06 - 08:17 PM
The Fooles Troupe 04 Dec 06 - 05:54 AM
Hrothgar 04 Dec 06 - 05:57 AM
The Sandman 04 Dec 06 - 03:39 PM
Rasener 04 Dec 06 - 04:29 PM
John O'L 05 Dec 06 - 02:02 AM
Rasener 05 Dec 06 - 03:25 AM
ard mhacha 05 Dec 06 - 04:46 AM
Hrothgar 05 Dec 06 - 05:30 AM
The Fooles Troupe 05 Dec 06 - 06:50 AM
GUEST,Jon 05 Dec 06 - 07:00 AM
Les from Hull 05 Dec 06 - 11:06 AM
The Fooles Troupe 05 Dec 06 - 07:33 PM
The Sandman 06 Dec 06 - 01:22 PM
GUEST 15 Dec 06 - 07:15 AM
John O'L 16 Dec 06 - 07:45 AM
GUEST,Jon 16 Dec 06 - 04:03 PM
The Sandman 16 Dec 06 - 04:24 PM
GUEST 16 Dec 06 - 04:56 PM
John O'L 16 Dec 06 - 07:29 PM
GUEST,Jon 17 Dec 06 - 04:12 AM
GUEST,Jon 17 Dec 06 - 04:39 AM
Hrothgar 17 Dec 06 - 04:40 AM
GUEST,Jon 17 Dec 06 - 04:58 AM
John MacKenzie 17 Dec 06 - 04:59 AM
The Fooles Troupe 18 Dec 06 - 12:23 AM
Rasener 18 Dec 06 - 01:01 AM
GUEST,Jon 18 Dec 06 - 04:37 AM
The Fooles Troupe 18 Dec 06 - 08:04 AM
Rasener 18 Dec 06 - 08:35 AM
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Big Al Whittle 26 Dec 06 - 05:19 AM
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GUEST,Allen in OZ 26 Dec 06 - 08:41 PM
John MacKenzie 27 Dec 06 - 05:32 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Dec 06 - 10:43 AM

I never made a century in cricket before
G


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Dec 06 - 10:44 AM

Oh well 101 is better anyway
G ¦¬]


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Rasener
Date: 03 Dec 06 - 11:22 AM

Must have been asleep there. Must stop watching the test match :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Dec 06 - 03:44 PM

TO GUEST 2 DEC ,I meant that magill should have been picked as well as Warne. ADIL RASHID is also a good batsman. australia have now scored 312,need i .say more.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 03 Dec 06 - 07:35 PM

Well, they're off again.... good cricket yeaterday - 5:316 nearly to the follow on point...


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: John O'L
Date: 03 Dec 06 - 08:17 PM

The draw is looking likely. There's still a chance for England but they need wickets NOW.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 05:54 AM

Well about 100 ahead, now we see what the English are made of: if they will declare and make a game of it; otherwise it may be a draw...


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Hrothgar
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 05:57 AM

The draw looks like a certainty, unless we take nine Pommy wickets for about 40 in the morning - which is always on the cards.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: The Sandman
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 03:39 PM

to guest.warnes test cricket batting average is 16 .62,Magills is 10 .20, a difference of six runs.magills bowling average is 27 warnes is 25.
the averages would bear out that warne, is not much better with the bat than magill.warnes highest score is 93, magills is 43.
spinners generally work better together, allen and titmus, laker and lock,Hobbs and Phelan, WARNE AND MAGILL, The english are poor at playing leg spin,australia would win the second test tomorrow if magill was playing along with warne.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 04:29 PM

IMHO the game was lost for England, when they dropped Ponting. That cost England dearly and has shaped the game.
However, I shall be watching it with great enthusiasm


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: John O'L
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 02:02 AM

As I write Aust. need 77 off 20 overs with 8 wickets in hand. If they win this match I think the summer's over, cricket-wise.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Rasener
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 03:25 AM

Oh Dear only England could have done what they did.

Congratulations to Australia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: ard mhacha
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 04:46 AM

Done and dusted.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Hrothgar
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 05:30 AM

I thought I was kidding about the 9 for 40 - or 9 for 60, as it turned out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 06:50 AM

Best test match for about 30 years! and best last day for yonks!
The Poms fought well, but lost concentration - though Warne still makes a big difference... the largest Adelaide crowd for about 47 years....



So The Aussies need win only of 3 to get back the Ashes, the Poms need to win 3; or 2 and a draw to keep them!


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 07:00 AM

Amazng (or not)... I turned the radio on before bed expecting to hear we were heading for a draw and we were for 5 then. I stayed up intsead.

Yes, FT, Warne most certainly helps but we did not help ourselves. Also I wonder if Monty might have made a difference for us.

I suspecr the series is effectively over now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Les from Hull
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:06 AM

Yes, you start losing wickets like that and it's hard to stop. One bad decision to start it, a stupid runout and a bad shot selection (Pieterson) and you're in trouble.

But it stemmed from the inabilty of the other bowlers to support Matty Hoggard. Check out the averages so far of Harmison (1 for 288), Anderson (2 for 303) and Giles (3 for 262) and you can see where it's going wrong. Even Australia's worst performing regular bowler (Brett Lee) is doing much better than that. And I know that Warne can be effective but his bowling has supplied plenty of runs for us so far.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 07:33 PM

I heard on teh news that one English newspaper had the headline

'WE WERE WARNED'

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 01:22 PM

Perhaps England might win if they were allowed to have STUART MAGILL.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Dec 06 - 07:15 AM

3-0, 3-0, to the tune of Amazing Grace,


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: John O'L
Date: 16 Dec 06 - 07:45 AM

How sad that on the third day of an Ashes test the thread has dropped off the menu. Guess there's nothing to be said, the only interest now being whether or not it will be a 5-0 whitewash.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 16 Dec 06 - 04:03 PM

An England victory is still possible John. But no, I don't see us getting close.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: The Sandman
Date: 16 Dec 06 - 04:24 PM

I believe england to draw is a good bet at 16 to one,and england to win at 25 to 1,you could hedge your bets and do both the draw and the win.TWO DAYS TO GET 500 ODD,NOPROBLemM cook will get 90.bell 130 peterson 85 collingwood 120 flintoff60, jones 50hoggard4 harmison 15 and monty willscore the winning run.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Dec 06 - 04:56 PM

Well i never knew there were two Tom Hamiltons.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: John O'L
Date: 16 Dec 06 - 07:29 PM

Well I'll be amazed and overjoyed if England win this test or even draw it, and I'll gladly eat my hat, feather and all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 17 Dec 06 - 04:12 AM

Oh well, I wake up this morning and have a look at the score thinking it would all be (at least effectively) over and see 244-3. All outcomes still possible.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 17 Dec 06 - 04:39 AM

For 5 now...


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Hrothgar
Date: 17 Dec 06 - 04:40 AM

If the Poms can bat long enough to get a draw, they shoud be able to score enough runs to win it - so the draw might be a longer chance that an England victory.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 17 Dec 06 - 04:58 AM

265-5 at close. Shame about the 2 wickets near the end. I'd have felt much happier with Cook still there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Dec 06 - 04:59 AM

When Collingwood went cheaply, I knew it was going down the pan.
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 Dec 06 - 12:23 AM

WaHooooo!


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Rasener
Date: 18 Dec 06 - 01:01 AM

Well there is no doubt that the Aussies played out of their skin and thoroughly deserve winning the Ashes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 18 Dec 06 - 04:37 AM

Aye, congrats to Australia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 Dec 06 - 08:04 AM

I thoroughly regretted that Real Life meant that I missed parts of the whole thing on TV or Radio - I think it was one of the best three Test matches in my living memory. Now let's see if the supposedly best team in the world can emulate the 1920/21 Aussie team that did the Poms over 5-0...


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Rasener
Date: 18 Dec 06 - 08:35 AM

The pressure is off the Aussies now Foolestroupe and I reckon that England will win the next 2 test matches.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 18 Dec 06 - 08:45 AM

I don't think they are going to relax even sligtly, Villan. Some other years, perhaps, but I think us winning the Ashes last time did sort of hurt them to rhe extent they really do want to win 5-0.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Hrothgar
Date: 25 Dec 06 - 08:14 PM

Fourth Test now in progress - but if the Pommy batsmen keep leaving the gate open the way they have been doing do far, it won't last three days.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Hrothgar
Date: 25 Dec 06 - 08:22 PM

Bloody Melbourne! Now it's raining. Could this save the poor old Poms? Can Duncan Fletcher give them some quick coaching on the relative positions of bat and pad during the break?


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Rasener
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 04:24 AM

Why ever did England decide to bat having won the toss.
Once again a frail batting show from England.
Thank goodness Flintoff is still able to take wickets injured or not.
It has to be seen what England can do tomorrow.
Panesar is in my opinion the only other bowler who can take wickets on a regular basis. Lets hope he can get the ball early and desimate the Aussies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 05:19 AM

seen England like this before.

This tour is their equivalent of a bad gig.

They're in the 'let's bugger off out of here, onto the next debacle, we've got an empire to run' mode.

Psychologically they've not just booked out of the hotel; they've bought the duty frees, and are currently deciding which inflight movie to watch.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 04:51 PM

All together now, to the tune of Amazing Grace, 4 nillllll, 4 nillll, 4nillll, 4 nillll.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Rasener
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 04:59 PM

Guest 4Q 4Q 4Q 4Q


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: GUEST,Allen in OZ
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 08:41 PM

Given events this morning we may need Warne to not only get 700 test wickets but also score 100 in batting !! When he goes , I may have to declare my availability for the Australian team

AD 1943


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Dec 06 - 05:32 AM

They have lost their way big time, and it's a lesson from the Australians in how to approach the game in a positive manner, that maybe England will take to heart.
However if I have to Listen to Geoffrey Boycott's whining and moaning any more, I may just be forced to throw my radio out of the window!
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Paul Burke
Date: 27 Dec 06 - 05:51 AM

Ashes? Sackcloth as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: Les from Hull
Date: 27 Dec 06 - 10:27 AM

It might have been a different story if the umpires had given the two lbws that Hoggard earned at the begininning of the Australian innings. Hoggard gets left handers lbw with his swing bowling with the new ball, and if the umpires aren't prepared to give these decisions then it blunts an important part of the England attack.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 27 Dec 06 - 11:32 AM

I don't think so, Paul. I think they would still have found someone to pull them through and take advantage. So often, that has been a noticable difference (last series was different) between us.

England from the 100 for 2, a healthy position, to 150 odd all out is not earth shattering news. On the other hand even if Australia were 80 for 6, you (or at least I) have the feeling 250 plus (though I must admit this one has surprised me in how high they have got) is possible.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Dec 06 - 11:33 AM

(sorry, I meant Les from Hull, not Paul)


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: ard mhacha
Date: 28 Dec 06 - 09:53 AM

I agree with JKMCK, Boycott is an obnoxious whinger, I have never heard anyone boast as much, he made his centuries in days, a boring bastard as a player and a summarizer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ashes
From: The Sandman
Date: 28 Dec 06 - 02:25 PM

they need to play ed joyce,an irish man.


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