ADD: New Garden Fields & Unison in Harmony (CB&S)

Subject: The Young'uns need help with Lyrics!
From: GUEST,theyounguns
Date: 12 Apr 09 - 04:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENAMwJCNN8I

Performed by Coope Boyes and Simpson, does anyone know what this song is called? Does anyone have the lyrics as well. Help appreciated.

Thanks

Subject: RE: Coope Boyes and Simpson Lyrics help
From: Helen
Date: 12 Apr 09 - 05:13 PM

Wiltshire Community History: Song - New garden fields

I searched for phrases in the song using Google.

Is this the same song you are searching for on another thread? You only need to create one thread per request, but I'm about to check the other thread in case it is a different song you are looking for.

Helen

Subject: RE: Coope Boyes and Simpson Lyrics help
From: GUEST,theyounguns
Date: 12 Apr 09 - 05:21 PM

thank you ever so much Helen. Much appreciated. It is the same song yes!

Subject: RE: Coope Boyes and Simpson Lyrics help
From: Helen
Date: 12 Apr 09 - 05:31 PM

There are some slight changes in the lyrics if you read the lyrics while listening to the performance.

Also there is a bit of information at the bottom of the page on the man from whom the song was collected in Wiltshire.


Welcome to Mudcat.
Helen

Subject: RE: Coope Boyes and Simpson Lyrics help
From: Barbara
Date: 12 Apr 09 - 06:11 PM

How about the other song by these three, posted on youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uoJyPBKHsU&feature=related

Seems like a lovely song, but the beginning's missing, as are credits. I took a stab at transcribing it, but I'm missing a lot, plus the video starts at the end of a missing verse, maybe more.

Here's what I have:

...do or die, would [   ] the air

Joy and laughter, born(?) in [   }
Raise the rafters, we don't care
If the roof's beyond repair...
Raise the rafters (3x)
We don't care if the roof's beyond repair

Sisters, brothers, to all others,
Let this be our guiding star
Thoughts(?) of violence don't aspire(?)
Hear the music from afar
What we sing is what we are
Hear the music (3x) from afar
What we sing is what we are.

Over hills and over valleys
Over mountains overseas
Nations shouting unto(until?) nations [    ]to be(?)
Unite us in harmony
Unto nations (3x) ....
Unite us in harmony.

Help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Coope Boyes and Simpson Lyrics help
From: Ref
Date: 12 Apr 09 - 06:48 PM

That's "Unity In Harmony." Try gogling that.

Subject: RE: Coope Boyes and Simpson Lyrics help
From: Barbara
Date: 12 Apr 09 - 07:24 PM

Is that the name of the song or the name of the artists? I get a lot of hits for a Wisconsin group called "Unity in Harmony" but I'm guessing I want a song called that, not a group, right?
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Coope Boyes and Simpson Lyrics help
From: GUEST,Henryp
Date: 12 Apr 09 - 07:25 PM

Or rather; Unison in Harmony

Subject: ADD: Unison in Harmony (Coope Boyes Simpson)
From: Barbara
Date: 12 Apr 09 - 07:48 PM

Oh thank you, Henry, that makes it so much easier.
Here are the correct words:

UNISON IN HARMONY
(by Coope Boyes Simpson)

Soaring skywards, leaping sideways
Do or die words cleave the air
Joy and laughter, mornings after
Raise the rafters, we don't care
If the roof's beyond repair...
Raise the rafters (3x)
We don't care if the roof's beyond repair.

Sisters, brothers, to all others,
Let that be our guiding star
Hearts of fire but no Messiah
Hear the music from afar
What we sing is what we are
Hear the music (3x) from afar
What we sing is what we are.

Over hills and over valleys
Over mountains over seas
Nations shall sing until nations cease to be
Unison in harmony
Until nations (3x) cease to be
Unison in harmony.

And there's even a website with the dots, I'll come back and post that in a minute.
Thank you so much.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Coope Boyes and Simpson Lyrics help
From: Barbara
Date: 12 Apr 09 - 07:51 PM

Go here for the dots for the harmonies and also the words.
Blessings,
Barbara

http://sgs.lpi.org.uk/seagreensingers/music/unisoninharmonyntl.htm

Subject: RE: Coope Boyes and Simpson Lyrics help
From: Ref
Date: 12 Apr 09 - 08:55 PM

Sorry 'bout that. Yes. "Unison."

Subject: RE: Coope Boyes and Simpson Lyrics help
From: Barbara
Date: 13 Apr 09 - 04:40 PM

I've now heard back from these folks and am given to understand that the dots (link posted above) are neither right nor done with their permission. It doesn't sound like they mind the song being circulated as long as you ask nicely. (and I suspect that if you are going to make some money off it, they would want a cut).
It is a really fine song, and I would like to know a bit about how it came to be. If I find out more, I'll post it, or perhaps some of these folks will come and talk to us here.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Coope Boyes and Simpson Lyrics help
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 13 Apr 09 - 04:55 PM

Sean, David, Michael - why not just e-mail Georgina Boyes at nomasters.co.uk. Website here

Hope to hear you singing somewhere nearer me soon.

Best wishes

Kitty

Subject: RE: Coope Boyes and Simpson Lyrics help
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 13 Apr 09 - 05:02 PM

And you could have posted a bit more information about yourselves ...

Kitty

Subject: Lyr Add: NEW GARDEN FIELDS (Roud 1 54, Wiltshire)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 15 Apr 09 - 01:26 AM

Lyrics copied from Wiltshire Community History:

NEW GARDEN FIELDS – Roud 1 54
Collected from David Sawyer, Ogbourne St. Andrew, Wiltshire by Alfred Williams

1. Come all you young females, pray give attend,
Unto these few lines I am going to pen;
It is of lovely Mary I'm going to write,
She was all my day's study and my dreams by night.

2. On the eighteenth of August, by the date of the year,
By these new gardens fields, where I first met my dear;
She appeared like a goddess, or some young divine,
That was come for a torment, to torment my mind.

3. 'Young man, I'm no torment,' these words she did say.
'I'm pulling these flowers, so fresh and so gay,
I'm pulling these flowers which nature does yields,
For I take great delight in the new garden field.'

4. Then I said, 'Lovely Mary, dare I make so bold,
As your lily white hand one moment to hold?
It would give me more pleasure than this earthly store,
So grant me this favour, I'll ask you no more.'

5. 'Oh, then,' she replied, 'I'm afraid you're in jest.
If I thought you in earnest, I'd count myself blest
For my father is coming.' These words she did say,
'So fare you well, young man, for I must away.'

6. 'And now she has gone and left me all in the bands of love,
King Cupid protect me, and you powers above;
King Cupid protect me, and now take my part,
For she's guilty of murder, she's broken my heart.'

7. She turned and she said, 'Young man, I pity your moan,
I will leave you no longer to sigh all alone;
And I will go with you to some foreign part,
For you are the first one to inflame my heart.'

Subject: Lyr Add: NEW GARDEN FIELDS (Coope, Boyes & Simpson
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 16 Apr 09 - 02:42 PM

If you want to know the exact words that CB&S sing, here they are. Most differences are minor but there is one more verse at the end. My transcription from the video:


NEW GARDEN FIELDS
As sung by Coope, Boyes & Simpson

1. Come, you pretty fair maids, I pray now attend
Unto these few lines I am going to pen.
It is of lovely Mary I'm going to write.
She is my hope's study and dreams all by night.

2. The eighteenth of August, in the eighth month of the year,
Down by New Garden Fields, where I met my dear,
She appeared like a goddess, or some young divine,
That came like a torment, to torture my mind.

3. "I am no torment, young man" she did say.
"I am pulling these flowers, so fresh and so gay.
I am pulling these flowers which nature does yield,
And I take great delight in the New Garden Fields."

4. I said, "Lovely Mary, dare I make so bold,
Your lily-white hand for the moment to hold?
It would give me more pleasure than all earthly store,
So grant me this favour, and I'll ask you no more."

5. It was then she replied, "I fear you but jest.
If I thought you in earnest, I'd think myself blest.
My father is coming," these words she did say,
"So fare thee well, young man, for I must away."

6. Now she has left me all in the bands of love.
Kind Cupid, protect me, and you powers above.
Kind Cupid, protect me, and now take my part.
She's guilty of murder, for she's quite broke my heart.

7. She turned and said, "Young man, I pity your moan.
I'll leave you no longer for to sigh all alone.
I'll go along with you to some foreign part.
You are the first young man that e'er won my heart."

8. We'll go to church on Sunday and married we'll be.
We'll join our hands in wedlock and sweet unity.
We will join our hands in wedlock and vow to be true.
Your father and mother we will bid adieu.

Subject: RE: ADD: New Garden Fields & Unison in Harmony (CB&S)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Mar 21 - 04:32 PM

Do we need more background information on this?

Subject: RE: ADD: New Garden Fields & Unison in Harmony (CB&S)
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 22 Mar 21 - 06:20 PM

3 copies of broadside at Bodleian

Pitts broadside, Harding B11 (1761), 8 double stanzas
No Imprint Harding B26 (463)
Armstrong Liverpool (c1820-24) 2806 C17 (115), 6 double stanzas

Subject: RE: ADD: New Garden Fields & Unison in Harmony (CB&S)
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 22 Mar 21 - 06:23 PM

Sorry, just spotted, just about everybody printed it in Britain, but the Armstrong of Liverpool appears to be the earliest datable. The rest all appear to be about 1837 onwards, Pitts, Catnach, Batchelar, Birt all of London

Subject: RE: ADD: New Garden Fields & Unison in Harmony (CB&S)
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 22 Mar 25 - 04:31 AM

londonmuseum.org.uk What were London's pleasure gardens? Thanks to rising incomes and the growth of an urban middle class, Londoners sought out new entertainment and ways of socialising in the 1700s. Pleasure gardens were the answer for those looking to splash some cash on the city’s most exciting cultural offerings. The first and most famous pleasure garden was in Vauxhall. It opened as New Spring Gardens in 1660, was relaunched by entrepreneur Jonathan Tyers in 1729, and renamed Vauxhall Gardens in 1785. Vauxhall’s more exclusive rival, Ranelagh Gardens, opened in Chelsea in 1742.

Londoners drank, danced and dined at pleasure gardens. They’d show off their finest clothes, don costumes for masquerade balls and enjoy music from contemporary composers and performers. An eight-year-old Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart even performed at Ranelagh in 1764. They were places where people of different genders could meet freely – and in the earlier years even mingle with celebrities, royals and the wealthy. But gardens like Vauxhall and Cremorne developed reputations as dangerous, dubious places full of drunkenness, scandal and sex. By the 1800s, the wealthy, fashionable crowds had drifted away.

Mainly Norfolk; Jane and Amanda Threlfall sang Cupid’s Garden on their 2002 CD Gown of Green and on their 2007 CD Revisited. They noted: The version sung here comes from William Chappell’s Popular Music of the Olden Time (1858-59). The title is thought to refer to Cuper’s Gardens, once a celebrated place of amusement on the south side of the Thames, eclipsed into closure in 1753 by the opening of the ‘new’ Vauxhall Gardens.

wikipedia; Lamorna is a Cornish adaptation of a music hall song titled Pomona or Away down to Pomona which originates from Manchester in the north west of England. 'Albert Square' is a square in front of Manchester Town Hall, and Pomona Palace and gardens were a site of popular entertainment in Cornbrook, Old Trafford, southwest of the city centre. Pomona Docks were built on the site of the Pomona Gardens.

BBC Languages; Vauxhall became a synonym for pleasure gardens, one of which was situated in Pavlovsk in Russia. It became the destination of the first Russian railway line. So the word vokzal, originally used for 'pleasure garden', got transferred to the meaning 'railway station'.