Canadian Mudcat Meet: Ormstown Quebec-July

Subject: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Raptor
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 07:02 AM

I'm tired of not having met My fellow Canuck Catters.
We need T Have a weekend Bash/Jam

Any Thoughts?

Raptor

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 09:14 AM

Could you have it in Sascat...Sasketc...Manitoba? I've never been to Manitoba.

If you have it in, oh, Alberta or BC I might be able to make it, if you'll let me in.

Canadians are welcome at my place. I'm not prejudiced against Canadians or, as we call them in Pocatello, "folks from Northern Idaho."

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 09:19 AM

I wish I could come to Canadia, too!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: bobad
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 09:23 AM

May I suggest getting together at the Ormstown Branches and Roots Festival . This is a low key and friendly festival which is organized by Mudcat Beer and is held at the end of July in a small town situated 45 minutes out of Montreal. There is free camping and toilet and shower facilities available. So far four Mudcatters, that I know of, have expressed their intention of attending next July.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 09:24 AM

Make it five.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: bobad
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 09:32 AM

You were already included in the four but if you bring your alter ego along that makes five.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 09:33 AM

I gave up on church, so forget the alter ego.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Raptor
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 09:39 AM

I think we should meet before the snow flies and bounds us to our own counties!

Raptor

Rapaire and Susan are welcome!

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 09:42 AM

Wish I could! Thanks for the welcoming heart, though.

We already had our first snow, in N Central PA's highlands-- so you better hurry!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Raptor
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 09:52 AM

Why can't ya?

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 09:57 AM

Cannot take the time right now-- health, work, commitments.

Plus the Getaway people would hunt me down like a dog if I came up there first-- I haven't been able to be lured there, yet, and they're really out to get me.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Big Mick
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 10:08 AM

An added plus to going to Ormstown is that you would meet and hear Bill Garret and Sue Lothrop. These two are accomplished performers and great folks. It's a win for all concerned. Hell, I might even try and make this one. Hope you can pull it together.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 10:18 AM

Canada is so large and it seems a long way from Cape Breton to anywhere else, but I'd love to meet some of you cats someday.
                  Sandy

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Midchuck
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 10:41 AM

If it's near Montreal...I'm in US but only 3 hours from Montreal, even if I don't speed too badly. Would you let "southerners" in? If we're not out west then?

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 10:43 AM

Hell, Midchuck, a southerner to a Montrealer is someone who lives in Sherbrooke.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: number 6
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 11:13 AM

I'll make it to Ormstown ... so that makes it 5.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: number 6
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 11:19 AM

correction .... I'll be the 6th .... counting in Peace's alter ego.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: bobad
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 12:47 PM

sIx, you were included in the four as Beer had mentioned to me that you had the intention of attending.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 12:56 PM

Well, that would be more then because he is also sIx.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: C. Ham
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 02:07 PM

There were rumors this past year that Bruce Murdoch would be performing. Alas, he wasn't on the list when the artists were announced.

If he's going to be there next summer -- and I suppose if Peace is coming it's a really good sign -- then I'm making the trip from T.O.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 02:14 PM

It'd be way easier to do over video-skype....

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 03:28 PM

Having people over for a Canadian meet is kind of like having people over for a Russian meet. You've only got about a billion or so hectares of land to choose from when agreeing on exactly where it will take place. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: ragdall
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 03:40 PM

I'd love to go, if I can find a way to get there. It's a very, very long drive, though, and my poor little old car is rusting out (big holes through the floor). A big SUV coming from the West Coast and picking up others along the way, would be nice.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Raptor
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 03:44 PM

How about Central Canada then?

Toronto or Ottawa?

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 04:16 PM

On Dec. 2 weekend the Vancouver BC folks host a lovely camp withusually great music south of B.C...not far from American border. I have gone quite a few times and it is great. mg

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Barry Finn
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 04:39 PM

Cross half of Canada in the snow for a mudcat meet? "Come on Dasher, Bowler, Bellman, Diedo, Bendigo, Gentry, Traveler, Countess, Drover, Bonnie Lass, Rover, let's go. Get the sled out of the shed, we're mgoing singing". Not.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: jacqui.c
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 04:52 PM

Now, if I could persuade the old man to go......

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Beer
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 05:45 PM

Don't come down this end of the threads much but glad I did. Sure would be nice to have a mudcat rally at our festival. Thanks for suggesting it Bobad.
    Maybe I could suggest to the board that a special weekend rate could be made for you mudcatters traveling all the way here to central Canada. Or is it Toronto?
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 05:49 PM

I'll see you in Ormstown, Adrien.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Beer
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 06:04 PM

Peace,
Does that mean I pencil you in????
I've just started the bookings.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 06:10 PM

Yes. Please. Whatever you want. Workshop for beginner songwriters, open tuning stuff, sing a few songs, it's up to you.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 06:13 PM

I can make it if those of us below the Border are welcome.
SINS

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 06:22 PM

I don't know where the notion came from that non-Canucks would not be welcome. Unfounded. Of course everyone/anyone's welcome.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Beer
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 06:27 PM

You sure are welcomed Sunsull. If I had room you could stay at my (our) house. I usually have about 15 in-laws and outlaws staying over. I have folks that come in from Saint Thomas and London Ont.
In a very short time I will be able to announce some of the changes we are working on for 2007. I'm excited about them but the almighty dollar may still be the problem. Anyone want to donate around ten grand or suggest some millionaire that wants a tax receipt for a donation?
Let me know.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: ragdall
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 06:30 PM

Beer,
Will we need a passport to go to Quebec? ;)

What are the 2007 dates? How much is the cost of admission to the festival?   Does the free camping include "car camping?" (Could I park my car and sleep in it instead of putting up a tent?)

Thanks,
rags

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Beer
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 06:50 PM

That depends from where West are you coming from? If it is B.C. then of course you do. But if your coming from state side no problem. The dates are July 27,28 and 29 Admission for the past 4 years has been $10.00 in advance $15 at the gate. Friday no charge as well as Sunday. It has been pass the hat. However, this may change a bit this year. Camping is free to a point. If you need electrical hook up then it is $10.00 a day/night. The grounds has plenty of room for trailers, boats , planes or even pup tents. If you want to park your car on the property and sleep in it no problem. Just turn the motor off.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 07:20 PM

We are very sensitive about our position on the world front given baby bush's BS.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Big Mick
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 07:30 PM

This is in July, right? I say all of us US 'catters get up there and support this gathering. If they will have us. I would love to meet some of the folks, and meet up with some I know already. Let's make this a do. Would that be alright with you folks?

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 08:12 PM

SINSULL,

Canucks have an idiot just like Bush. As much as we think your President is a horse's ass, we are also aware that you are not him. My take on Canadians is that if asked, and if they dislike Bush's policies, they will say very directly and very politely that they think he's not very bright. But truly there is no way 'we' think of Americans as representative of their politicians. True story comin' atcha.

I live in the most redneck part of Canada. Few places more so than Alberta. A fellow on his way to Alaska--American plates on his car--seems to have fallen asleep at the wheel and hit another vehicle (Alberta plates) killing two people and injuring two others. He was banged up and so were the two survivors in the other vehicle. We got them 'packaged' and off to hospital and dealt with the dead. There was NO talk about him being a Yank and what idiots they all are, etc. In fact, people went out of their way for him so that he could get back on the road to Alaska. The Canadian 'dislike' of the US has to do with its politicians and some of its policies to do with soft-wood lumber, cattle, etc. But that dislike does NOT extend itself to individual American citizens. WE realize that many of you are as pissed off with Washington as are many of us.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Beer
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 08:20 PM

Big Mick. Your 9 to 10 hours away. Your also from Red Wing country. "Go Wings Go". Was at to old Olympia 4 times. Back to the topic.
I don't think there is a passport required to come to Canada. I go to N/York state once a month to play at a coffee house and have no problem. And some musicians do the same by coming here with the same results. Then again it just may depend on the border guard. Someone else may be able to answer this better than I.
If this becomes a do as Big Mick suggests than I will begin working on organizing help from this end.
Ragdall I was just kidding of course   Especially if your from Canada. And Sinsull I understand your concern. I assure you this. Every Mudcatter would be welcomed. Maybe this is exactly what is needed to mend a few fences.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 08:28 PM

I do know there will be a Passport required for Canucks to go to the USA as of January 1, 2007.

"Documents for U.S. Citizens--Bring your passport if you've got one. A passport is the easiest and fastest way to enter Canada and return to the U.S. Note: Under the new Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, as of December 31, 2006, all travelers to and from Canada will be required to have a passport or other accepted document that establishes the bearer's identity and nationality to enter or re-enter the United States. Other documents that the U.S. government anticipates will be acceptable for land and border crossings under this new initiative are SENTRI, NEXUS, and FAST program cards (international frequent traveler programs). This means that you will no longer be able to enter Canada using a driver's license and birth certificate.

For the latest information on passports and entry requirements for U.S. citizens, check the Web page of the U.S. State Department at www.travel.state.gov. Naturalized citizens should carry their naturalization certificates. U.S. citizens don't require visas to enter Canada."

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: bobad
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 09:29 PM

Peace, to my knowledge the date for requiring a passport to cross the US border is Jan 1 2008.

"The Departments of Homeland Security and State announced today the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative to secure and expedite travel. The Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative will require all U.S. citizens, Canadians, citizens of the British Overseas Territory of Bermuda, and citizens of Mexico to have a passport or other accepted secure document to enter or re-enter United States by January 1, 2008."

From: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?content=4433

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 09:38 PM

Really? A buddy I was going to go see said January 1, 2007. Heck. I gotta check this out. Thanks very much.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: C. Ham
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 09:58 PM

Canadians going to the U.S. will need passports for air travel as of 2007. Travelers going to the U.S. by car will need them as of 2008.

As far as I know, Canada has not yet announced similar regulations for Americans coming here.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Beer
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 10:35 PM

I count 7
Bobad
Peace
Big Mick
Midchuck
Number 6
C. Ham
Sinsull
Three others with some convincing.
Sandy McLean
Jacqui.c
Ragdall
How about sending a few personal p.m out to those who we know but are not watching the mud at the moment?

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Raptor
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 08:53 AM

Put me on that list right friggin now! Please. Thank you.

Raptor

I'm in Ontario and can bring any catters that make it this far!

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Beer
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 09:01 AM

Your the man Raptor. It will be good meeting you. I'm having a board meeting Thursday evening and I will bring up what has been happening. I'm quite sure they will be very excited and come up with possible things we could do on this end for you all.
Beer

That's 8

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: InOBU
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 09:08 AM

If it is in Ormstown, Genie and I will definitly be there. I spend each 7\27 in Quebec, so it would fit our yearly schdual ( me birthday... ) My father was a Canadian citizen until 1986, so I was born to a Canadian... hence... count me in. He was born in Moosejaw, but, I'd never be able to get out that far likely... So, count us in Uileann pipes in mits...
see all there
Lorcan and Genie Otway

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Beer
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 09:28 AM

Just read your Bio. Love ya already.
That's 9
not counting partners, passengers or hitchhikers at the moment.

Subject: RE: BS: Time for a Canadian Mudcat Meet
From: Willie-O
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 10:46 AM

Far as the passport thing goes, I think GWB Inc caved a bit and moved the dates forward a couple of years due to intensive lobbying from border states and provinces who are ALL against this passport requirement, because so much cross-border tourism will be eliminated. (About 25% of Americans and 50% of Canadians hold passports and many wouldn't bother to get one to make a little excursion).

Note: Canada is not in fact imposing such regulations on US citizens, but THE U.S. IS!!!! Read Bobad's post above. The point is, when/if the new plan goes into effect, American citizens will need passports (or possibly a new yet-to-be-finalized "secure ID" document) to RE-ENTER the U.S. from Canada.

Hey, come and stay. We'll make room.

W-O