Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 21 Jun 07 - 05:30 PM

201

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 21 Jun 07 - 05:34 PM

Well, you also got #200 so it still counts. I'm going for the day, be back tomorrow morning.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 21 Jun 07 - 05:39 PM

OK.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 22 Jun 07 - 12:55 PM

HELLO!!!!

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 22 Jun 07 - 01:40 PM

Hola. Have you done any writing on that story? No pressure, but let's get crackin'.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 22 Jun 07 - 05:14 PM

Hey KB can you give me some time?I'm only 11.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 22 Jun 07 - 05:16 PM

P.S. have you read your messages yet?

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 22 Jun 07 - 05:21 PM

Oh, OK. I was just funnin' anyway. I do this stuff from work so I don't post much on the weekend. You may not hear from me until Monday. Maybe somebody else will pick up the slack.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 22 Jun 07 - 05:24 PM

you read your messages yet?

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 23 Jun 07 - 02:27 PM

hi

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 24 Jun 07 - 01:55 PM

What does highlandsok mean?

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: goatfell
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 09:04 AM

Ja mein Fuehrer

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: goatfell
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 09:08 AM

only kiding

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 09:11 AM

I read my messages, I responded a couple of times. I have to go to the welcome thread now to make it official.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 05:40 PM

What does Panzer Faust and Panzer Shrek mean?

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 05:46 PM

Wondered where you'd gone to, Cookster! (Sorry I can't answer as to Panzer Faust and Panzer Shrek.)

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 05:58 PM

That's OK.No where I'm right here.By the way "panzer" means tank.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 06:23 PM

Well, I know who Faust is/was and I know Shrek; I just don't know a way to tie them all together.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 06:54 PM

I think shrek means terror.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 07:53 PM

Interesting bit, there, Cookster. Schreck does indeed deal with something awful or frightening. So what does Faust mean? In the story, Faust was a man who made a bargain with the devil.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 02:50 PM

Does anyone know?

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 03:16 PM

Panzer, literally translated, means "armor". Tanks were called "panzers" because they are armored vehicles. The whole word for "tank" in German is "panzerkampfwagen", meaning "armored fighting vehicle". Panzer is the colloquial abbreviation of panzerkampfwagen.

Panzerfaust means "armor fist". It was a weapon meant to punch holes through the armor of tanks.

Panzerschrek means "armor fright". It was a weapon similar to a bazooka, meant to destroy tanks.

The Germans supplied their infantry with a very large number of excellent short range tank-killing weapons. They had good reason to. They were outnumbered by the Allies to a factor of at least 20 to 1 in tanks after 1943.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 06:13 PM

I thought it meant,"tank terror."

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 06:14 PM

Thank you Little Hawk.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 06:16 PM

Function: noun
Etymology: German Panzer tank, armor, coat of mail, from Middle High German panzier, from Old French panciere, from pance, panche belly — more at paunch
Date: circa 1939

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 06:17 PM

Thanks Peace.Are you leaving today?

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 06:20 PM

Nope. I hope tomorrow. Have a few snags.
How are you?

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 06:24 PM

BTW, Little Hawk loves history (he hates war) and he knows lots about WWII. There are some interesting sites you could find about tank warfare by Googling

panzer tanks

and others by Googling

armored warfare

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 06:34 PM

OK Little Hawk....What did GI's call german rockets?

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 06:48 PM

well......

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 06:59 PM

I'm not sure I remember that, Cookster. The Germans had a multi-rocket-firing thing on wheels called a Nebelwerfer. The G.I.'s may have called those rockets "Screaming Mimi's" but I could be wrong about that...that might be the name for the American rocket devices which were mounted on some vehicles, like tanks or halftracks. The Russians also had rockets...Katyusha rockets, mounted on trucks. The Katyushas are still used today by a variety of Russian-supplied forces. Many of the Muslim fighters in the Middle East have employed them.

Seems to me that the generic German words for "rockets" is "raketen" or something like that, but I can't swear to it.

As you suggested, "tank terror" is a good enough translation of Panzerschrek, and it has a better ring in English than "armor fright", I'd say.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 07:02 PM

OK I just wanted to know what they called them.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 09:34 PM

I looked it up. Here's a good Wickipedia article about the Nebelwerfer rockets.

Nebelwerfers


The G.I.'s called them the "Screaming Mimi" or the "Moaning Minnie". They were deadly against infantry or unarmoured targets.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 08 Jul 07 - 03:44 PM

OK thank you.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 08 Jul 07 - 10:37 PM

History is fun!!

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 02:25 PM

Yeah, it is. I've loved history since I was, oh, maybe 6 years old, and my love for it certainly helped me get good marks in school.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn Ger
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 10:10 AM

History fun? Have you been in the target area of Katyushas or screaming Minnies? Not so funny.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 10:22 AM

That's not "history", Wilfried, that's war! I never said war was fun. One of the good things about knowing your history well is that it may make you wise enough not to be so much in favor of going out and fighting more wars.

That's how it has affected me, anyway.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 11:08 AM

"BTW, Little Hawk loves history (he hates war)"


Just remember, those who do NOT know history are doomed to repeat it.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 05:16 PM

I know history.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 15 Jul 07 - 11:39 AM

History is alot of fun.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: cookster
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 03:32 PM

It really is.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Oct 10 - 11:06 AM

yES, Clive Robertson did used to play it on his breakfast show on 2BL. The only bits of the lyrics I can remember are:

If you want people to like you, learn German
Girls will let you kiss them upon the neck
Fly a stuka, drive a tank, put your deutchmarks in the bank.

....and

...If you going to London today: "Fly Lufthansa 'we know the way"

(the last line was a pun on the German national airline's marketing slogan at the time!!)
Glenn

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: GUEST,Gerhard
Date: 10 Oct 10 - 06:32 AM

There we are: it's pure irony.

However, quite a number of American and British writers boasted their effort to learn German, so they clearly hoped to be liked for that by their

fellow-citizens. Mark Twain, to name one, was quite critical of German society, but simultaneously very eager to learn about it. His critique on
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Awful_German_Language">The Awful German Language is a rejected lover's lament. Mark Twain is certainly well-liked

by Americans, Germans, and elsewhere, though not all he wrote is marked by his best wisdom.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: GUEST,Gerhard
Date: 10 Oct 10 - 06:35 AM

contd.

Generally, ambitious learning adds to someone's reputation, unless it's combined with a snobbish or geekish attitude. Learning difficult languages (i.e. any foreign languages) for cultural reasons is a worthy cause, like learning to play instruments etc.

Gerhard (a German trying to learn a number of languages - and feeling to be liked for that.)

PS: Here is the clicky for The Awful German Language.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: Jeanie
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 04:33 AM

Shakespeare is German ! Go on....take a look...

- jeanie

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: Arnie
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 12:45 PM

This thread started over 13 yrs ago - is it the oldest current thread? I haven't read it all, but was the original query ever answered? I speak a bit of German and found that the only people this made me popular with were Germans who appreciated the effort I made. Unfortunately it probably sounded like an effort too!! Case endings, split infinitives - learning this language is not for the faint-hearted!

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: GUEST,Gerhard
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 06:02 PM

Arnie, the best witness hitherto seems to be that anonymous GUEST on 09 Oct 10 - 11:06 AM. However, that version might be a parody of an affirmative original.

You'll have a ball when you're spreken der Deutsch - not while learning, to be sure. If the last three words of this line are original, they are deliberately wrong German, somewhat self-contradictory. (A well-known variant is "I wish I could sprechen Sie deutsch".)

I googled quite a bit and found no further evidence of the song; the question is still open.

Actually, learning any foreign language is very difficult. To aid your memory, learn songs (or arias) by heart, and read books you really like.

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 15 Dec 10 - 12:19 AM

I would love to get a recording of this, I can only remember some of the bits and the chorus. It was played on the BBC world service in 1980 after the goon show.


If you want people to like you, learn german,
Girls will let you kiss them on the lips. ("Ach Really!")

*chorus*
So buff up your goose steps, get them panzers on.
vun two three..
'cause today its a frankferter sausage, tomorrow the world!!
*da da da da da da* - mouth organ solo


If you want people to like you, learn German,
We can get you to london most times of the day,
("fly lufthansa, ve know the way")

*chorus*
So buff up your goose steps, get them panzers on.
vun two three..
'cause today its a frankferter sausage, tomorrow the world!!
*da da da da da da* - mouth organ solo

Subject: RE: Req: If You Want People to Like You, Learn German
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 15 Dec 10 - 04:01 AM

My father taught me some he is still pretty fluent after all these years after being held as a POW. Yes I would like learn it again because I found it was quite easy to pick up, I still remember how to count and say please and thank-you which is a good start.