BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 06:21 AM

I remember watching the then 17-year-old James Milner at Elland Road in his first few games for Leeds United. Even then, a great player. Well worth his MBE.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 06:24 AM

My uncle was a Buck Palace guard. There's a photo of him somewhere wearing his bearskin (I got a bollocking once for calling it a busby). He was a damn fine E flat bass player in Besses o' th' Barn Band as well. I do have come-froms, you know.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 06:46 AM

The Metro I got before that steam train from Bury to Rawtenstall (as recently posted on WAV with Pics) stopped at Besses o' th' Barn. (Maybe that's one thing we can all agree on, England has some great place names.)

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 07:24 AM

I understand that the last hangman in England had a pub at Besses.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 07:36 AM

I just did a search and learnt the long-running brass band you mention is quite famous and have concerts later in the year...

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 07:40 AM

The Queen in lavander looks good for 96. She is beloved for her silence according to some talking heads but I recall her delivering some momentus speechs. Long live the Queen indeed. She deserves 4 days of muscle relaxants for her back and a unique reverence for her established lifelong duties.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 07:42 AM

*Grenade*: Separation of ceremonial and actual head of state is a Good Thing, and well worth £1.29 a year. Imagine the ego boost to Alexander B**** de Pfeffel if *he* was at the centre of the Trooping of the Colours; compare and contrast with Vlad the Invader taking the salute in Red Square (mayday, mayday).

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 08:51 AM

I am sure that getting rid of the monarchy would do absolutely nothing to reduce inequality and inequality in this country. It's a daft aspect of the country, but then so is Morris Dancing.

I can see having an elected head of state landing the country with President Boris Johnson. Or even a President Jimmy Saville.

There's no particular reason they couldn't just keep the present Queen in place for good. Or bring back King Arthur, the Once and Future King. There's no real need for a symbolic Head of State to be a living person. And all the pageantry people love could remain. The stuff with opening hospitals and so forth could be carried out by Pearly Kings and Queens and suchlike.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 09:31 AM

A magnificent flypast which apparently flew over the centre of Croydon, we are 5 miles away so only heard it in the background. Big Jet TV did a wonderful broadcast from the Rembrandt Hotel roof in Knightsbridge which I recorded live!!!

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 09:35 AM

A reminder: the jubilee has nothing to do with your personal politics. It’s about celebrating Britishness, it’s about unity. You don’t need to think that everything about Britain is wonderful, just that being British is wonderful and that the Queen’s reign has been remarkable.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 09:36 AM

More global warming then. Along with the burning of grouse moors leading to the destruction of peat.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 09:48 AM

I'm British by accident of birth and I'm not going to go round thinking that it's wonderful to be British. As it happens, we have a once-marvellous NHS that's falling to pieces, a shortage of workers in many areas, inflation rocketing up (ignore the official figures: it's far worse than that), a corrupt and incompetent government, food shortages, food banks and a liar and hypocrite for a prime minister. How good is that.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Howard Jones
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 09:51 AM

"I'm not bothered about the cost to all of us so much as the principle of giving extremely wealthy people even more money."

OK, so suppose we had an elected president. That role would still need to be funded. They would need accommodation, staff, travel expenses, the cost of official functions, etc etc. That cost would fall on the state, regardless of the incumbent's personal wealth, or lack of. That is what the Sovereign Grant covers - the costs of carrying out the role of head of state. It is not for the Queen's personal expenditure, that comes from her private resources.

Of course these costs could possibly be reduced, but that has nothing to do with monarchy v republic. Some monarchies run very modestly, some presidencies cost far more than our Royal Family. It all depends on what the nation wants and expects from its head of state. The majority of British people seem to enjoy a bit of spectacle and flummery.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 10:10 AM

Great to see the scum protesters at Trooping the Colour were very forcibly removed immediately.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Raggytash
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 10:25 AM

"scum protesters" really? ............ do you know these people, do you know where they live, if they are married, if they have children, what they do for a living, do they vote Conservative, Liberal or Labour are they kind to strangers.

If so please share it with us .............. or keep your bigotted opinions to yourself

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 10:27 AM

Although they take an eternity to decide, one thing I agree with the U.S. on (the tennis tie-breaker is another) is an elected President as Head of State. Apparently, Australia only just failed to become a republic because many were concerned about Parliament choosing their Head of State.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: robomatic
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 10:45 AM

You can't have good times without bad times, unless you want to go the Starbucks route and call a 'small' a 'tall'.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 10:50 AM

...is that just for the rutting season, Robo?

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: meself
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 11:29 AM

I would just like to see the monarchy wound down to where the Royals still have some regalia to wear when they're on display, and some glad-rags for when they cut the ribbons at the opening of laundromats, etc., and appropriate 'security', but, beyond that, something much closer to the lifestyles of. let's say, the middle-class.

I'm afraid the Queen is the last Royal I'll be willing to curtsey to.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 11:38 AM

In the manner of Rob Roy, maybe we have our solution: "Meself, Meself, Meself..!"

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 12:43 PM

I do not believe Britain is as decrepid as Mr. Shaw says.
When it comes to decrepitude England should be near the bottom of the list of nations. I don't know who gets the top most vile slot.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 12:59 PM

"scum protesters" yes, I hope they are put away, your DO NOT protest at Trooping the Colour.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 01:07 PM

In line with what I posted above - "RE Trooping The Colour, the saying "champing at the bit" is ridiculous as what the horse is keen on is trying to get the damn thing out of its mouth" - just noticed on the news they were animal rights protestors.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 03:11 PM

."one thing I agree with the U.S. on (the tennis tie-breaker is another) is an elected President as Head of State."

Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 04:14 PM

"Prince" Andrew.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 04:34 PM

And whilst Elizabeth Windsor is good for her age, someone of her current capabilities should NOT be any nations head of state.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 04:41 PM

"I do not believe Britain is as decrepid as Mr. Shaw says.
When it comes to decrepitude England should be near the bottom of the list of nations. I don't know who gets the top most vile slot."

Well belief is faith without evidence. I've lived here for seventy years and I think I'm closer to the evidence that my country is in a parlous state (currently but not always) than you are. And it's not a competition by the way. By the way again, do try to sort out your England/Britain/UK terminology.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 04:45 PM

By the way (my current favourite phrase), does anybody else here share my utterly unfair suspicion that Prince Andy hasn't REALLY got covid? :-)

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 05:09 PM

"And whilst Elizabeth Windsor is good for her age, someone of her current capabilities should NOT be any nations head of state."

Such total bollocks from the leftie pefties

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 05:42 PM

...don't suppose your favourite movie is El Cid, Bonzo?!

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 05:52 PM

Nothing "leftie" about being ageist.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Raggytash
Date: 02 Jun 22 - 07:55 PM

Bonzo. You failed to answer a single question I asked so I will ask them once again.

The questions where:

"do you know these people, do you know where they live, if they are married, if they have children, what they do for a living, do they vote Conservative, Liberal or Labour are they kind to strangers."

Until such times as you can justify your contention that these people are "scum" we will have to remain in the view that you are a bigot.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 03:21 PM

Re the Queen tapping out the rhythm to one of Queen's songs (not sure if she was made aware of some of their crude lyrics?) to start the Platinum Party At The Palace: God knows, anyone who thinks AMERICAN pop, rock & (c)rap are somehow above, e.g., English folk, classical, & Christian music is a fruitcake, frankly.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 03:37 PM

And someone who wraps folk, classical and christian music together isn't? WTF is christian music anyway? Sounds like something to avoid!

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 03:48 PM

"Wraps", Dave?... maybe I could have typed "OR Christian music" (by which I mean hymns, voluntaries, etc.)

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 04:06 PM

I am the proud possessor of (wait for it...) a PLATTYJOOBIE COMMEMORATIVE MUG (with matching coaster)! I won it in our Memory Café raffle yesterday (it was either that or a box of Ferrero Rocher). Naturally, for the rest of my life it will take pride of place, er, somewhere or other. Either that or I'll wait for twenty years then see if I can get more than five bob for it on eBay...

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 04:12 PM

...I guess you were just a tad late to turn those Ferrero Rochers into a Platinum Pudding entry, Steve?! (I think the winner used Swiss.)

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 04:21 PM

..."rolls" sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 04:44 PM

Andrea Bocelli, best in the show so far - by a wide margin.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 04:54 PM

Maybe you should WAV or maybe just stop digging.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 05:10 PM

I'm not a fan of his. However, one man's fish is another man's poisson. One thing I absolutely can't be doing with is anything by Lloyd-Webber. Very grim, only in m'humble, of course!

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 05:21 PM

No English/British folk songs or art songs, just a tiny bit of classical music and dance (even though it's RVW150), nor Morris- or clog-dancing.

I want to live in an English Republic of England before a gravedigger sees to me, Dave.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 05:24 PM

I think it's a bit mean to put on a big concert as a sort of present for a lady aged 96 and load it with material and performances she's pretty certain to dislike.

I have avoided it myself, and I'm sure that would have been her preference.

I suspect one of the biggest downsides of beingm Royals must be these kind of events.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 05:27 PM

And now I have to listen to the ghastly hypocrisy of William burbling on about the environment, the fragile planet, etc., when he belongs to just about the most environmentally-destructive family in the country.

And there you are, WAV, Elton, Englishman, singing his head off in the most ridiculous Americanised accent! The tit...

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 05:30 PM

"It's a little bit funny" he adopted "Your Song" for Diana, too, no?

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 05:30 PM

If I seem out of sync with the bash, it's because I'm watching it on catchup!

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 05:31 PM

They didn't show much of the ballet either, WaV. But we enjoyed Queen's kick-off segment.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 05:34 PM

Is Diana Ross actually singing?

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 05:38 PM

...being English, she could have played the spoons instead of tapping just one of them to a that rhythm of Queen's "We Will Rock You", MaJoc.

Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Jun 22 - 05:55 PM

"It's a little bit funny" he adopted "Your Song" for Diana, too, no?”

No he didn’t, that was ‘Candle In The Wind’.