BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 05:41 PM

Yes, Bruce, but the part he was alluding to was the first paragraph, which says:

"Well, yes, Ake, but he (Doug R) honestly believes that the War on Anti-terrorism is a legitimate defence of the USA against evil foreign religious fanatics, and he probably honestly believes also that the USA went into Iraq to "help the people" and to "create democracy". (Ha! Ha! Gasp! Snort! Cough!)

Only I think Doug meant without the laughter at the end... :-)

You see, that is the sort of thing that good citizens and loyal soldiers of aggressor powers usually believe...in all good conscience, given their understanding of the situation. It's the kind of thing Germans believed in 1940, the kind of thing Britons believed when they were exterminating African tribes, the kind of thing the Japanese believed in 1941, the kind of thing loyal Iraqis believed when they attacked Iran, etc, etc, ad infinitum. Nice people can be misled by propaganda and fear tactics again, and again, and again. And their natural instinct is to support their government in what it does overseas or across the border, generally speaking.

It's basic tribal mentality.

As I said before, my tribe includes all people on this planet, not just my own nationality. Therefore, I tend to be a bit unconventional when it comes to things like lining up automatically behind the "home team". (Anyway, I consider it fairly likely that high-up elements in the American government either let 911 happen...or helped it to happen...because it allowed them to scare their public into sanctioning foreign oil wars in strategic areas. I think Bin Laden is an employee and a good buddy of the very people who are pretending to hunt him.)

Well, this thread has been great fun lately.

Don Firth - Your post of 11th Jan at 4:01 was spot on. Very well put!

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Peace
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 05:49 PM

"Well, yes, Ake, but he (Doug R) honestly believes that the War on Anti-terrorism is a legitimate defence of the USA against evil foreign religious fanatics, and he probably honestly believes also that the USA went into Iraq to "help the people" and to "create democracy". (Ha! Ha! Gasp! Snort! Cough!)

Only I think Doug meant without the laughter at the end... :-)


OK, LH. However, Doug does on occasion get his facts mixed up. Witness the following:

"LH: your post, January 9, 3:50 PM, first paragraph. You are correct.

DougR"

The time of the post was 3:56. (Sorry, Doug, I couldn't resist.)

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Don Firth
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 06:08 PM

Little Hawk, my tribe also includes all people on this planet—and the peoples of other planets as well, should that prove to be the case, as I don't doubt that we will eventually learn. I am an American by virtue of the fact that I was born in this country, not by blind allegiance. I do not belong to any political party. If I subscribe to a progressive political viewpoint (which I do), it is because I am convinced that this is in the best interests of all peoples. If I rant against the machinations of the Bush administration and similar regimes, it is because I am convinced that they are detrimental to the life and well-being of my tribe. Our tribe. All humanity (not to mention all species).

But this, of course, is only one facet of the role I find I have been given to play.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 06:17 PM

Yup. That's right, Don.

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Dewey
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:43 AM

Brucie,

I am the Boss of my opinion, DOn't know why you asked for it here?

If wnat you mean is that I should not have given so many paragraphs and analogies to make my point I will concede you are RIGHT!


Amos, sorry! I am a sucker for your posts. Usually when you say something arrogant or condescending, I usually end up saying something arrogant and condescneding in return.

The one post you made that offended me was the follow, "Thanks for the VIVID EXPOSTION DEWEY........ HMMM!!!!!

Like you didn't see any value to anything I had to say. I thought to myself well if he think he is the only one capable of saying anything intelligent let him do all the talking.

After responding with condescencion myself, I eventually wound up back to blogging.

Martin is more consistant than all of us, so I agree with Little Hawk, everyone has their good points.

Amoses education I admire. I am only a school teacher by training, and my education is limited as is my spelling and typing skills. ACtually Amos has a cooler head than me, I am sesentive, ifthe right buttons are pushed you can milk me for all I am worth. And yes, I too still have a problem with ego, If I didn't, I wouldn't have even bothered to reply to this post.

Thanks for the calm and thoughtful reply Amos, I didn't post here outof hate, just agitation as we ALL like to think that what we have to say is important or at least just as importnat as someone else.

No offense, but I know tons of big words too! but knowing them does't make me more intelligent I use them instinctually when I blog from the higher mind, in that way I think they can create intelligents, on a message board they just leave everyone else out of the picture.

Words are no big deal, but its the thought behind the words that matters, chain words together and you have a thought. That's instintually what I do when I write, but htrough all those words, but behind all those words comesthat thoughts and intellignets behind those words, and often those can reflect a thought towards another human bieng that is not always positive.

Dewey

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Peace
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:55 AM

"Brucie,

I am the Boss of my opinion, DOn't know why you asked for it here?"

Dewey,

I am aware you are the boss of your own opinion. However, I don't recall asking for it--although you have every right to give it.

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Dewey
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 02:03 AM

you asked for everyone's opinion, Didn't you? it is an open forum. If it ISN't OPEN, why did you open up this can of worms in the first place, I gave my reply to thread, if you don't like it well tough beans, your the one that started it for everyone esle.

No hard logic there, so lose the ego trip!

Dewey (and his opinion to this thread posted by the prince of peace BRUCIE)

See I'm starting to sound like martin all the time (less swearing)

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 02:09 AM

Dewey:

I axtually was impressed in the first place.

Not to worry, you're doing great!!

A

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Dewey
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 02:13 AM

Opps! Bobert started the thread, the wise and humble Dewey will retreat to his cave tonight for much needed rest and deep meditation.

Sorry Brucie!

Dewey (the vibes starved crow eater)

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Peace
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 02:56 AM

No problem, Dewey.

Bruce

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: freda underhill
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:00 AM

..the whole POINT of the muscular, sweaty hairy entity with two armpits is that there are TWO armpits and that it has a BODY..

b/c oneness is an idea, just an idea.

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Peace
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:17 AM

So that then makes THREE.

"..the whole POINT of the muscular, sweaty hairy entity with two armpits is that there are TWO armpits and that it has a BODY.."

...YDOB a sah ti taht dna stipmra OWT era ereht taht si stipmra owt htiw ytitne yriah ytaews ,ralucsum eht fo TNIOP elohw eht.. I just wanted to see if something would happen if I wrote your post backwards.

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Peace
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:27 AM

Ya know, I am reading many fairly smart people talking about the ego as if it's necessarily a bad thing. Why? As in, 'Who said the ego is a bad thing, and what the heck did they know?'

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: freda underhill
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:29 AM

.eicurb ereht a tniop tog uoy

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: GUEST,Giok After the power cut
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 07:18 AM

I like a girl with a nice pair of pits;~)
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 08:19 AM

WE have just the religion for you, Giok!!

A

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: GUEST,JennyO
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 08:58 AM

Amos, would you by any chance be referring to the Temple of the Golden Globes?

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 09:06 AM

I am, indeed, ma'am! I am a fond supporter, as well as being one of their foundation garments.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: GUEST,JennyO
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 09:11 AM

That must have been a very uplifting experience for you...

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: GUEST,Giok After the power cut
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 09:20 AM

Thank you for your warm support, [supports?];~)
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: GUEST,Amos
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 09:20 AM

I'll say!! It was a handful, not to put too fine a point on it. Took me a while to get my wits around it and realize how blessed I was!! A sensitive subject, for me, but a delightful one.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: GUEST,Brucie
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 10:24 AM

And we think it's a bad thing for someone to act like a boob. Huh.

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 11:26 AM

Some days you feel like a boob,
SOme days you feel one.

Pierre Mammaire, 1902-1986, Institiute of Mammary Joy founder

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 11:51 AM

BRA-vo! Support where needed I say!
Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 11:59 AM

I just checked in this morning to keep abreast of the discussion. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 12:20 PM

*cue background music*..John Hartford singing "I'm Gonna See You Get That Golden Globes Award"

followed by his rendition of "Have Mercy on My Poor Old Prurient Interest"

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:23 PM

My wife has just traded in her 'Upper decker flopper stopper' for one of those new fangled 'Over the shoulder boulder holders' I was confused enough first time I met one that fastened at the front, and the young lady who was wearing it laughed at me!! As Bing used to almost say, 'Fangs for the Mammaries'.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:25 PM

P>S> Have we drifted from one pair of tits to another?
Giok (¦¬]>

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:31 PM

Giok:

That's the whole idea of the Temple, mon!! :D

A

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Once Famous
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 02:46 PM

Nice to see this is now about tits.

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:16 PM

Oneness is not an idea, freda, it's a fact. Multiplicity could just as well be called an idea...an idea in the Mind of Oneness. Or multiplicity could be called a fact. Or it could be called many facts. All such descriptions would be accurate from a particular vantage point of perception.

One vantage point of perception see Oneness, another sees multiplicity, and still another sees BOTH of those simultaneously.

The sum of all the separated things is the Oneness that they all are. Existence itself is the Oneness. Perception is the Oneness. Without perception you would be completely unaware of the multiplicity of apparently separated phenomena all around us and within us. To be aware of them ALL simultaneously would be to experience the Oneness that they are. And that is exactly what occurs at a certain stage of enlightenment, according to what I know. I haven't yet achieved that, but I know about it.

Similarly, I haven't yet achieved the ability to play the Mark Knopfler guitar solo in "Sultans of Swing", but I know about it. It's real, and so is the Oneness. The Oneness is an enlarged state of awareness that reaches out way beyond normal ego identification.

Martin - I like female breasts best when they are in the moderately small to medium-sized range, with fairly prominent nipples. How about you?

(something for everyone, right?)

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: freda underhill
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:25 PM

"even if the lotus born brahama says something illogical, it should be rejected like a straw..."

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:32 PM

Fine. Say something illogical, and I'll reject it. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:35 PM

I'll vote for the prominent nipples.

>>>>>>>>

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:37 PM

I thought that would ring a few familiar bells out there...

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 04:19 PM

"Nice to see this is now about tits." says mg. When wasn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Once Famous
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 04:22 PM

When it was about Amos' scrotum, of course.

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 04:38 PM

I thought it was about a pair of boobs. (smile...)

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 05:13 PM

Well, well, well...

Looks as if there quite a number of folks posturing to take on the winner of the Amos/Martin whacko match...

Quite a few...

Bobert (who originated this thread with the thought(?) that it would get a half a dozen hits and drop off the bottom into Max's black hole of crappy threads...)

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 07:37 PM

but we have shown that Amos and Martin are ONE....

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: JennyO
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 09:26 PM

I thought it was about the Oneness of giant hairy armpits and other things that come in twos - or was that the Twoness?....

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Peace
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 09:51 PM

But Grasshopperette, can there BE a Twoness in the Universal Oneness? For example, what WOULD chairs look like if your knees bent the other way? What DOES the owner of a Xoloitzcuintle do when he has a hangover? These are questions of great import. I have no answers except to opine that the Twoness of the Oneness will provide for a sense of Threeness. Eventually, we will discover there is a Lochness, and then this thread will become totally incomprehensible.

Play ball!

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: JennyO
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 10:12 PM

Ah, but of course there is a Twoness in the Universal Oneness! It's the Yin and Yang, the Light and Dark, the Male and Female, the Good and Evil, the Left Tit and Right Tit, and all that sort of stuff! And what would chairs look like if kangaroos sat on them (before they break)?

I can't quite imagine a Threeness. There doesn't seem to be any sense of Balance to it. On the other hand, the Fourness of the Great Turtle A'Tuin is something on which to ponder.

So many things to think about - the Loch Ness, the Inverness, the drunkenness, the Eliot Ness - my head hurts and I hear ringing - no wait, that's the telephone. Do you think it's a case of Hyper-Cerebral Electrosis? Do you think my head is going to spontaneously combust?

Suddenly I have an uncontrollable urge to go and eat donuts. Excuse me while I..........

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Peace
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 10:25 PM

"combust"

A word expressing Oneness about a Twoness.

You have DONE it.

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: JennyO
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 10:32 PM

Why, so I have, she said, picking herself up off the floor.

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 11:10 PM

Well, excep that when you notice that the twonesses you list above have all been identified by Thou, you notice the essential third part, and thus Threeness.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Peace
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 11:13 PM

Oneness and Twoness and Threeness is Sixness. My G A W D! Where will this LEAD?

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: pdq
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 11:28 PM

'the difference between essence and quintessence is quadressence'

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: Peace
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 11:37 PM

Every now and then someone says something that ya look at and go, "Wish I'd said that." Nice one, pdq. Brilliant. BM

Subject: RE: BS: Insanity: Amos or Martin Gibson?....
From: JennyO
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:17 AM

Then it must follow that quintessence + essence = sexessence, and there you have it - the sixness. Ah, it all starts to make sense now! I knew sex had something to do with it.