Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2

Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Dec 14 - 05:19 AM

"Jim you deny that I have filled these threads over the past year with quotes "
Yes I do - prove me wrong and link to any of them who prove your claim of a consensus for your (now reduced to) three points
As "ridiculous" as that makes me look, you are still on your own and it lies within your power to prove me wrong with a couple of links.
You now seem to be reduced to defending a general whose claim to fame was his willingness to send many thousands of young men to their deaths in order to capture useless fields of mud - even your own historian described his reputation as a leader is unproven
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 15 Dec 14 - 07:16 AM

Yes I do - prove me wrong and link to any of them who prove your claim of a consensus for your (now reduced to) three points

So you do not deny that I have provided ample quotes supporting my points, but you want quotes supporting the consensus.

I have in fact quoted historians saying there is a consensus, but however many I supply you will always say there might still be some who differ.

The most convincing evidence is that none have yet been found despite a year of desperate searching by you and the others.

Tell us when you have found one.

Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Dec 14 - 07:22 AM

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Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Dec 14 - 07:29 AM

With a bit of luck this thread will all be over by Christmas!

Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
From: Teribus
Date: 15 Dec 14 - 08:59 AM

Not if you keep chipping in to refresh it won't

Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Dec 14 - 09:21 AM

"So you do not deny that I have provided ample quotes supporting my points"
No I don't - you have provided half a dozen points of view - there are over a hundred historians working on WW1 - you refused even to read the list because it was too long
Your historians amount to half a dozen people who, by their own admission, are seeking to change the popular view of history - which proves nothing.
You don't even accept the statement of one of your own historians on how Haig is regarded by his fellow historians - give us a break!!
Now your consensus
"I have in fact quoted historians saying there is a consensus,"
You keep alluding to this - where the **** are they and how do they measure up to the general opinion?
There really isn't anything more "ridiculous" than alluding to proof you claim to have given, yet refusinng to link to it
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 15 Dec 14 - 12:40 PM

You don't even accept the statement of one of your own historians on how Haig is regarded by his fellow historians - give us a break!!

If you mean the "jury still out statement," it does not come from any historian.
You made that up.

There are not that many historians publishing stuff on WW1.
I have quoted perhaps a dozen, and you people have still not found any that support you.

Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Dec 14 - 04:29 PM

" it does not come from any historian."
Thn whu did you put it up and pint it out as more evidence from a historian - you've had the quote and the ling
Make up your mind laddie
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 15 Dec 14 - 05:22 PM

I didn't.

Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Dec 14 - 06:56 PM

"I didn't."
Then you'd better get in touch with them upstairs and tell them there's someone posting in your name.
From the thread where you rightfully confessed that you are not a historian:
From: Keith A of Hertford -
PM Date: 14 Dec 14 - 02:14 PM
You really don't read your own postings, do you?
Perhaps you should stay out of the kitchen when the cooking sherry is being used.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 16 Dec 14 - 04:09 AM

Of course I am not an historian.
If I posted that "jury out" shit, produce it.

Subject: RE: Oh! What a Lovely War! - BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Dec 14 - 04:16 AM

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