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Subject: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Donuel Date: 12 May 08 - 10:25 AM Vote for federal faith based Schools, faith based groceries and FAITH BASED GAS ! VOTE Saint McCain ...THINK ABOUT IT. WE ALREADY HAVE FEDERAL FUNDED FAITH BASED VOUCHERS FOR SCHOOL CHILDREN, why not federal funded faith based vouchers for groceries and gas? Talk about energizing your evangelical base... all other must pay full price plus a 'freedom of religion' excise tax. Who would champion such a plan? Tom Delay and a hoard of other defeated republican politicians would see this as their ticket back. In light of the fact Florida just passed a law "academic freedon law" that requires creationism be part of of any discussion of evolution in public schools, faith based legislation knows no bounds. Faith based sports? Just watch some players after a touchdown. Faith based theme parks? There are plenty of them. Faith based food and gas is not as far fetched as you might think. If you think the Supreme Court will find against faith based utilities and commodities, you probably thought they would not have elected George W Bush. Just add the word FREEDOM or PATRIOT in front of nearly any Republican scheme that defies the Constitution and you have a winner. __________________________________ Freedom food Freedom gas Half price vouchers for Christians. All others pay cash. (if anyone else wants to go dumpster diving outside the conservative think tanks give me a call) ;<) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: wysiwyg Date: 12 May 08 - 10:36 AM :~) ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Riginslinger Date: 12 May 08 - 10:38 AM "Faith based food and gas is not as far fetched as you might think." Not at all. Just go on a steady diet of beans, and you'd soon be as unpleasant as Reverend Jeremiah Wright. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Donuel Date: 12 May 08 - 10:47 AM beans beans the magical fruit... You can buy 'miracle fruit' plants now at Logee's greenhouse. What it does is make anything sour or extremely tart taste honey sweet after you eat a piece of miracle fruit. Its sort of the FOX news of taste bud deception. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: GUEST,Mrr at work Date: 12 May 08 - 11:28 AM Can't recall who said that when Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross? I think they got their tenses wrong... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: GUEST,Chief Chaos Date: 12 May 08 - 07:26 PM Can't wait to find out if any Wahabist schools were funded out of this "faith" based initiatives. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: katlaughing Date: 12 May 08 - 07:51 PM Donuel, I thought maybe you were being cynical about my very favourite greenhouse to visit in the whole world, BUT I see Logee's does indeed sell Magical Fruit "as seen on MARTHA!" (It's been a long time since I've been able to visit. It is a wonderful place. MY brother wrote a piano piece "Romance of the Rainforest" to commemorate their 100th anniversary. We gave Mrs. Logee Martin, the matriarch at the time, she passed away at 92 in 2004, a special copy of it printed on parchment type paper in green ink and framed. My bro's calligraphy is very artsy looking so it looked pretty neat. He even played for Mrs. Martin at her home next door.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Bobert Date: 12 May 08 - 07:58 PM God's Gas... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 12 May 08 - 08:58 PM In light of the fact Florida just passed a law "academic freedon law" that requires creationism be part of of any discussion of evolution in public schools, faith based legislation knows no bounds. Here's the synopsis of the act from the Florida Legislature's website: The Teaching of Chemical and Biological Evolution [SPCC]: Cites act as the "Evolution Academic Freedom Act." Provides public school teachers with a right to present scientific information relevant to the full range of views on biological and chemical evolution. Prohibits a teacher from being discriminated against for presenting such information. Prohibits students from being penalized for subscribing to a particular position on evolution, etc. (Full text here) The law does not require that creationism, intelligent design or any other hairball scheme be taught or discussed. It allows the discussion of such ideas. It protects teachers who present such ideas from harassment from the left at the same time that it protects teachers who present theories of biological evolution from harassment from the right. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Riginslinger Date: 12 May 08 - 10:29 PM "God's Gas..." Stuff a sock in Rush Limbaugh and put an end to it. "'Florida just passed a law "academic freedon law'" So I read the synopsis, and I don't get the point of it. It just seems like anybody can say anything they want to say. Oh, that's right, they're in a public classroom; I get it now. You can be "peer reviewed," or you can be an idiot, it doesn't matter to the state. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 13 May 08 - 10:26 AM Aw hell, Rig, the law is a perfect example of what a law should be! It gives the folks on the left a perception of victory because they can't be fired for teaching evolution. It gives the folks on the right a perception of victory because they can't be fired for teaching intelligent design. It gives the pundits and talk-radio assholes on both sides something to brag and/or complain about. It gives the incumbent legislators a chance to brag about having voted for or against the law in the upcoming election. It actually accomplishes pretty close to nothing while making a lot of noise. It's legislative masturbation at its very finest! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Riginslinger Date: 13 May 08 - 01:55 PM Maybe the point should be: what does it do for children? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: GUEST,Chief Chaos Date: 13 May 08 - 09:45 PM Unfortunately some will read "scientific information" to read "the lack of any scientific information" and proceed on a discourse about intelligent design or creationism. After all you really can't disprove intelligent design. Creationism you could disprove if your audience believed in scientific proof in the first place. Another thought, I wonder how many Satanic schools are getting any of these funds? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Riginslinger Date: 13 May 08 - 10:17 PM That's a good point, Chaos. I just don't see any way to administer something like this fairly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 14 May 08 - 02:54 AM "Satanic" Just as a matter of interest, as a regular reader (sadly, I must admit!) of Yahoo Answers (and thus having gained an unwanted insight into the educational state [or apparent lack thereof!] of the US American mind!), I just have to ask for clarification of this term. 1 - allegedly actively worshipping a mythical entity named 'Satan'. 2 - an alleged 'fallen Xtian - who by Xtian definition thus must be 'Satanic'. 3 - any alleged 'non-Xtian' Religious group. 4 - any group allegedly claiming to be 'Pagan'. 5 - Those professing to be genuine 'Atheists'. 6 - Alleged 'Catholic' or 'Protestant' - depending on the current existing viewpoint of 'the accuser'. 7 - I probably will have to consult YA! to obtain more 'definitions' - I can't remember them all. :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Donuel Date: 14 May 08 - 05:19 AM yes, Foolstroupe, if its wood, its a witch. She turned me into a Newt...but I got better. kat, I am glad you got the humorous miracle fruit analogy and that you know intimately the beauty of Logee's greenhouse. My mother introduced me. BeeW, You hit the nail on the head about a perfect "law" You did cite the revision which is watered down and does not include the word creationism but implies it enough to satisfy bibble THumper and scientific seeker alike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 14 May 08 - 07:05 AM BTW Donuel - "Witches are NOT 'Satanic'" - they have a belief system which pre-dates Xtianity so, strictly speaking, on Xitans can be 'Satanic'.... :-) Just because another system of philosophy comes along and tries to makes up derogatory names for pre-existing entities... :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 14 May 08 - 07:26 AM corrected post BTW Donuel - "Witches are NOT 'Satanic'" - they have a belief system which pre-dates Xtianity so, strictly speaking, only Xitans can be 'Satanic'.... :-) Just because another system of philosophy comes along and tries to makes up derogatory names for pre-existing entities... :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Donuel Date: 14 May 08 - 08:11 AM "Aw hell, Rig, the law is a perfect example of what a law should be! It gives the folks on the left a perception of victory because they can't be fired for teaching evolution. It gives the folks on the right a perception of victory because they can't be fired for teaching intelligent design. It gives the pundits and talk-radio assholes on both sides something to brag and/or complain about. It gives the incumbent legislators a chance to brag about having voted for or against the law in the upcoming election. It actually accomplishes pretty close to nothing while making a lot of noise. It's legislative masturbation at its very finest!" bwl save this for future reference so one can plug in various upcoming legislation into this eternal flawed formula. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Naemanson Date: 15 May 08 - 05:46 AM Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Riginslinger - PM Date: 13 May 08 - 01:55 PM Maybe the point should be: what does it do for children? ******************************************************** Nothing! But then, neither side is really concerned about them. They just want, no, NEED, to win. When they settle their disputes and put the money they've wasted on this argument into supporting the schools then the children will benefit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 15 May 08 - 06:41 AM Be proud! You are watching something very similar to The Fall of The Roman Empire. The US control of Science and its Military Applications will gradually decline, as will the Pax Americana. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Riginslinger Date: 15 May 08 - 10:08 PM Not if we control immigration! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Amos Date: 15 May 08 - 10:15 PM What Rig needs is a little faith-based humanism. I have faith in my digestive tract, and it provides more gas than I need! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Faith based food and gas From: Riginslinger Date: 16 May 08 - 10:08 AM Gas-X in the form of strong employment enforcement inside American borders. |