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BS: Tunnynge of Elyenor Runnynge

Rapparee 08 Jan 03 - 07:26 AM
Dead Horse 08 Jan 03 - 11:05 AM
MMario 08 Jan 03 - 11:11 AM
MMario 08 Jan 03 - 11:18 AM
Dave Bryant 08 Jan 03 - 11:42 AM
Jeanie 08 Jan 03 - 12:18 PM
Jeanie 08 Jan 03 - 12:25 PM
Dave Bryant 28 May 03 - 12:00 PM

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Subject: BS: Tunnynge of Elyenor Runnynge
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 07:26 AM

I mentioned this
on Mudchat last night.

Lines like

"But let vs turne playne,
There we lefte agayne.
For, as yll a patch as that,
The hennes ron in the mashfat ;
For they go to roust
Streyght ouer the ale ioust,
And donge, whan it commes,
In the ale tunnes.
Than Elynour taketh
The mashe bolle, and shaketh
The hennes donge away,
And skommeth it into a tray
Whereas the yeest is,
With her maungy fystis :
And somtyme she blennes
The donge of her hennes
And the ale together"

make you either want to give up drinking or glad for pure food laws.

It is, by the way, by John Skelton.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tunnynge of Elyenor Runnynge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 11:05 AM

Chicken shit, huh?
So that's where Old Speckled Hen got it's name!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tunnynge of Elyenor Runnynge
From: MMario
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 11:11 AM

for the full text - quite a discourse!

http://www.library.utoronto.ca/utel/rp/poems/skelton2b.html

Tunnynge of Elyenor Runnynge


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Subject: RE: BS: Tunnynge of Elyenor Runnynge
From: MMario
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 11:18 AM

sorry - just noticed that 300 or so lines are missing from that site - however - it's the most I can find online.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tunnynge of Elyenor Runnynge
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 11:42 AM

John Skelton was tutor to Henry VIII. Ralph Vaughan Williams set the "Tunnynge of Elyenor Runnynge" to music as one of his "Five Tudor Portraits".

A pub which I used to drink at, "The Running Horse" at Leatherhead, Surrey, claimed to be the original inn which the beldame owned. The legend is that she was rolled down the hill inside a (tun) barrel and into the River Mole at the bottom.

There are definitely records of a landlady of the period named Alianora Romyng who was fined 2d for selling ale "at excessive price by small measures".


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Subject: RE: BS: Tunnynge of Elyenor Runnynge
From: Jeanie
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 12:18 PM

Thanks, Rapaire, Mudde Chatte frende !
What a wonderful description of her at the beginning of the poem, too.
Here's an interesting analysis of John Skelton's style:
John Skelton - Godfather of Rap

Cheeres !
- jeanie (a.k.a. Ye Olde Goatte Womane of Burntwoode, Essex)


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Subject: RE: BS: Tunnynge of Elyenor Runnynge
From: Jeanie
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 12:25 PM

WARNING ! Eminem and others are also quoted on the website I've posted - Bad language WARNING !

(Someone may wish to delete it - or, just read the first half, which only quotes Skelton and *is* interesting and no offensive modern language).

Apologies,
- jeanie


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Subject: RE: BS: Tunnynge of Elyenor Runnynge
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 28 May 03 - 12:00 PM

BTW - Have sung at "The Running Horse" several times recently including last Sunday which was their annual celebration of having managed to fight off a takeover by the (now defunct) Firkin chain.

Lovely pub with a good choice of beer - folk music friendly - highly recommended.


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