Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Jan 25 - 03:30 PM

re: Stephen Miller...

I can barely stand to think about him. When I do I 'see' him in a Nazi uniform. In my not-so-humble opinion, he is one of the most hateful, dangerous people ever to have serious influence in government.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Jan 25 - 03:46 PM

John Pavlovitz on his Substack page. I’ve linked to it rather than copy/paste, as it’s a rather long piece. He expresses very eloquently the idea I’ve had for a long time about MAGA ‘Christians’ - that their actions are in direct opposition to the claims they make about their ‘faith’, and that MAGA ‘Christianity’ is, in fact, anti-Jesus.

Well worth a read, IMHO.

Subject: Who could be deported due to parents or grandpa
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 25 - 04:39 PM

It will take a while for the Supreme Court to reinterpret the 14th amendment but how far back will the ruling apply to naturalized parents or grandparents?

Hitler laws went back 3 generations to search for any Jewish blood that would ban an SS wedding.

I have step grandparents that were never naturalized after being processed at Ellis Island. My wife has a grandmother never naturalized who came from Canada. Her grandfather was naturalized because he signed up for WWI in the US. Many Irish men gained citizenship that way.

So depending upon a Court ruling more people could face technical deportation than first imagined.

Who knows all the unlikely people who may be interpreted as illegal?
It could be you.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 25 - 04:50 PM

Steven Miller has devised a no hearing or due process deportation.
It is already challenged in Court.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 25 - 05:14 PM

Because Trump pardoned 1,500 insurrectionists without 'prejudice' the DOJ has informed the 135 capitol police that they are no longer 'victims'.

That sounds as Orwellian as it gets.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 25 - 05:32 PM

Like many government agencies, the NIH is under a gag order in which it is illegal to disclose the gag order. This post needs the help of a moderator to be removed by end of day,

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 24 Jan 25 - 02:35 AM

A ‘gag order’? WT Actual F? What happened to you ‘Murricans’ much-worshipped free speech?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 24 Jan 25 - 04:22 AM

I’ll try that again, in a way that I hope makes better sense!

A gag order? WTAF? What happened to the American Holy Cow of ‘free speech’?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 25 - 05:50 AM

Even the VA had a hiring freeze, banned all travel, and a gag order but word got out so the ban on new doctors and nurses was canceled.
They want to privatize the VA. The NIH is ordered not to communicate anything about bird flu even to fellow scientists, no travel, and no new hires.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Jan 25 - 09:27 AM

This is from the Occupy Democrats Facebook froup in February 2019.Just as valid today, if not more so.

Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
"A few things spring to mind.
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.
He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
'My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 25 - 10:38 AM

It's getting closer. The former boss is fired and the new boss is under the gun.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 threads.
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Jan 25 - 01:19 PM

I think of Trump as the "shoot the moon" of character flaws. Not unlike that well-written post transmitted by DtG. Just a briefer way of description.

But he is the one in the White House for the present and next four years.

There was a Presidential contest in the late 19th century where one of candidates had undeniably fathered an illegitimate child. One of the slogans of the anti crowd was: "Maw, Maw, where's my paw?"

To which the other side replied:

"Gone to the White House! Haw Haw Haw!"

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 24 Jan 25 - 02:50 PM

> Large libraries in US could have it [the FT] too, especially
> university libraries with History departments.

Not for long, if history is any guide. Which reminds me: Does anybody here know if Fahrenheit 451 is on the list of books to burn?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 25 - 03:48 PM

The US.gov website has been cleansed of any mention of 1-6.
The victor can erase history.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Helen
Date: 24 Jan 25 - 04:00 PM

Am I the only person who thinks Barron Trump looks more like Elon Musk than $Trump? Is that why Melanoma won't kiss her husband in public any more? :-D

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 25 - 04:23 PM

I've heard that one already.
Elon has a bizarre perverse creepy unkissable mouth.

There is a Trump doxxing campaign going on for suspected disloyal government employees and the removal of security details for folks like Pompeo and Bolton. If someone was in the outer circle of Fauci's labs they are getting the ax since Biden gave Tony a pardon which made Donald mad. That's as many as 200 people.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 25 - 05:09 PM

The shut down gag order OF THE HEALTH AGENCIES I've been talking about is being reported on MSNBC.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jan 25 - 11:19 PM

And Hegseth made it through the vote, though it was a squeaker. For once McConnell did the honorable thing and voted against the creep, but Vance broke the tie.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Jan 25 - 07:10 AM

From the Occupy Democrats FB Page…absolutely spot-on as far as this Brit is concerned…

“Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"

Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:

"A few things spring to mind.

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.

For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.

I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.

Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.

Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.

He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.

He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.

After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.

In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:

'My God… what… have… I… created?

If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 25 Jan 25 - 07:12 AM

Helen, re Melania not kissing her husband on camera: There's an ongoing debate in this house over whether we're seeing Melania or False Melania.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 25 - 09:57 AM

Some say Trump is more real life than other politicians.

Obama was all rainbows and unicorns but Trump is all forclose with a unicorn horn up our ass.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 25 - 10:10 AM

"Here I come to save the day!" that means that Donald Trump is on his way.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Helen
Date: 25 Jan 25 - 01:33 PM

BWM, do you realise that DtG already posted that on Date: 24 Jan 25 - 09:27 AM. A good read, some excellent points, and much easier to read with the line breaks, so thanks.

And MaJoC, by "False Melania" do you mean she has been AI generated or maybe cloned? LOL

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Jan 25 - 04:27 PM

Aaaaahh! When I read it on the FB Page I thought it seemed slightly familiar! Well something so spot-on is worth repeating IMHO! ;-) :-)

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Helen
Date: 25 Jan 25 - 04:54 PM

Well, I've now read it twice and it was worth it. LOL

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Hrothgar
Date: 26 Jan 25 - 04:23 AM

I am not sure whether this statistic is available - but how many of the members of Congress who fled before the approaching mob on 06 Jan 21 approved of the pardons?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Jan 25 - 05:00 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8057lnd997o link to the BBC

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 26 Jan 25 - 05:52 AM

> do you mean she has been AI generated or maybe cloned?

Nah, just from the same cookie-cutter. It's something I've noted many times over the years: once some female gets noticed enough to be (*akkh* *phht*) a Celebrity, instances of The Look appear all over the piece. It's especially noticeable when said Look is clearly manufactured, and thus more easily reproducible. Case in point: all those lookalike competitions masquerading as Real Housewives of Lesser Bitchington which infest daytime TV, whose primary function is to be low-cost infill to keep the adverts apart.

I shouldn't complain too much, though. I settled on my own Look in the late 1960s, so Herself has to sit in when I'm at the barber's to ensure I don't come back looking like a recycled hippie.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 25 - 07:12 AM

Fractal flaws ad infinitum...
The government-wide shutdown of hiring, purchasing, travel, is particularly hazardous to experiments and research. When you can't buy food for the animals more than the experiment is killed.

So far the bird flu has jumped from birds to cattle to cats. The cases of human infection is from raw milk. The 1917 flu pandemic was not a bird flu as first suspected but with the Trump NIH gag order work stoppage, the hazards are in the hands of viral mutation.

Hegseth now heads up the Pentagon. We have had heavy drinking Generals like Ulysses S Grant but Hegseth says he is not a General.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jan 25 - 09:37 AM

Agent Orange begins putting his plan to piss the rest of the world off into effect…

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 25 - 10:09 AM

Invading Greenland's 21,000 citizens might embolden China's invasion of Taiwan. Denmark has been in NATO since 1949. Invading NATO nations by the US would set quite a precedent.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Helen
Date: 26 Jan 25 - 01:26 PM

Got it, MaJoC. Like the characters in the hilariously funny Oz parody show called We Interrupt This Broadcast especially when relating to the shows called Married at First Sight (MAFS) and Love Island, which they renamed Lip Island. The women in Lip Island had outlandishly outsized lips, i.e. big, shiny red plastic replicas.

However, I don't think Melanoma's cosmetic work is quite that bad. She does actually look like a real human, IMHO, although more like an automaton with her lack of human emotion.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 26 Jan 25 - 04:41 PM

Side thought: "OK, we'll give you Greenland, in exchange for California and Florida."

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: robomatic
Date: 26 Jan 25 - 05:47 PM

I'm sure the war gaming communities both in the world's professional militaries and pundit gaming circles are working current politics into the prospects for Taiwan.
If China is going to seize Taiwan they're going to want to have a large installed second strike capability in place.
China is supposedly developing a nuclear capability to rival those of U.S.A. and Russia. Might be one reason they have not tried to suppress N. Korea's nuclear development.

On the "Past as Prologue" subject, I'm wondering if we can actually form a picture of TRMP activity based on his previous term:

?More and different varied chaos?
?More organized swing to the right?
?More divergence between American extremes?
?New political parties?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 27 Jan 25 - 07:12 AM

Two consecutive items in RISKS Digest 34.53 just caused me to think "Surprise" ....

Entry dated Mon, 20 Jan 2025:

Subject: Strengthening and Promoting Innovation in the Nation's Cybersecurity (Uncle Sam)
[...]
In a nutshell, the U.S. government won't buy off-the-shelf software stacks or services unless the manufacturer/supplier demonstrates irrefutable proof -- attestation -- of Federal cybersecurity regulatory compliance. "Just trust us" won't fly any longer. "Trust but verify" lives, with a vengeance via procurement regulations on steroids.

The EO regulations require in-house adoption and audit of NIST 800-53 and other 'modest' process disciplines before foisting the next software toxic waste dump into the government's supply chain.

[US$5 says the EO is repealed by the incoming administration -- too expense for business to comply.]

Entry dated Fri, 24 Jan 2025:

Subject: White House Disbands Cyber Safety Review Board
(John Leyden)

The Trump administration has dismissed all members of the Cyber Safety Review Board (CSRB), including those investigating the China-linked hacking group Salt Typhoon. The CSRB was established through an executive order by the previous administration and tasked with reviewing major cyber-incidents affecting the U.S. government.

For the record, there's an article in The Register, with the title "Trump 'waved a white flag to Chinese hackers' as Homeland Security axed cyber advisory boards".

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 27 Jan 25 - 08:04 AM

PS: It's worth reading the whole of that issue of RISKS. Many of the other articles concern the promotion of cryptocurrencies by the incoming maladministration.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jan 25 - 10:36 AM

I just spent 4 hours listening to the Trump advisor on AI coding, DEI, censorship, and debanking. He worked for Twitter and META. He leaves me wondering if some of his issues are crazy shit or true. He also loves himself some Elon. Knowing where and from whom ideas come from is enlightening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHWnPOKh_S0

The crazy thing is not every issue is untrue.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Jan 25 - 08:25 PM

This information has been posted on social media so people can do their own fact checking (should have been anyway, but now it is all the more important):

Politifact
https://www.politifact.com/

Factcheck.org
https://www.factcheck.org/

Washington Post Fact Checker
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fact-checker/

Snopes
https://www.snopes.com/

Duke Reporter’s Lab Fact Checker
https://reporterslab.org/fact-checking/

SciCheck
https://www.factcheck.org/scicheck/

FlackCheck
https://www.annenbergclassroom.org/

Media Bias Fact Check (MBFC)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

NPR Fact Check
https://www.npr.org/sections/politics-fact-check

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Helen
Date: 28 Jan 25 - 03:30 AM

January 6 rioter Matthew Huttle shot dead by police during traffic stop just days after Trump pardon

"In short: Police say that a January 6 rioter who had recently been pardoned by Donald Trump has been shot and killed by police at a traffic stop.

"Matthew Huttle, who agreed to a plea deal that gave him six months in jail in 2023, was in possession of a firearm during the traffic stop, state police said.

"What's next? The investigation is ongoing.

"An Indiana man who was recently pardoned by US President Donald Trump for his participation in the January 6 riots has been shot and killed by a deputy at a traffic stop.

"Matthew Huttle was shot by a Jasper County sheriff's deputy on Sunday morning, local time, after allegedly resisting arrest after an altercation took place with an officer, authorities said.

"The 42-year-old was in possession of a firearm during the traffic stop, state police said.

"Huttle was one of the almost 1,500 people pardoned by Mr Trump as one of his first acts upon his return to the White House.

"State police said that the deputy officer tried to arrest the man from Hobart, Indiana, when an altercation 'took place between the suspect and the officer, which resulted in the officer firing his weapon and fatally wounding the suspect'."

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: The Sandman
Date: 28 Jan 25 - 04:02 AM

Stilly river sage, it is important to question all information, regardless of its source, with the exception of the weather reports

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jan 25 - 06:13 AM

Over here Trump has used his Sharpie to alter hurricane weather reports.

I intentionally read the opinions of those who have the ear of Trump.
Marc Andreessen is a hundred times more intelligent than Kash Patel.
Trump prefers stupid radical puppets over smart ones.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Jan 25 - 07:28 AM

A poem by Michael Rosen…

Trump talked of
a million and a half people.
and he wondered aloud
what if
‘we just clean out that whole thing?’
He wondered aloud
what if we say
‘you know, it’s over.’?

What do you say
you people we vote for,
you who shroud your soft bodies in suits
and sit
enclosed in the safety of offices
in the towers of glass and steel
you who sit on TV panels
shaking your cheeks with horror
at outrages round the globe
what do you say
to the man who talks of
cleaning out people
like the people are unclean
what do you say to the man
who talks of people as
‘that whole thing’
like the people are a thing.

What do you say
to the President
who talks of the people of Gaza
as if they are an unclean thing?

What do you say to us?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Helen
Date: 28 Jan 25 - 12:48 PM

This is when a percentage of people who voted for Trump start to rethink that decision:

Donald Trump to pause all federal grants and loans, memo reveals

"In short: The Trump administration has temporarily paused grant, loan and other financial assistance programs at the Office of Management and Budget.

"His administration made the request in a memo which referenced the executive orders including those seeking to dismantle programs related to diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI).

"What's next?

"According to the memo, the suspension begins on January 28 at 5pm EST (January 29, 8am AEST)."

....

"'The use of Federal resources to advance Marxist equity, transgenderism, and green new deal social engineering policies is a waste of taxpayer dollars that does not improve the day-to-day lives of those we serve,' Mr Vaeth added.

"According to the memo, the suspension begins on January 28 at 5pm EST (January 29, 8am AEST).

'The memo has prompted criticism from congressional Democrats, who have responded to reports of the memo by sending a letter demanding the OMB reverse its decision.

"'The scope of what you are ordering is breathtaking, unprecedented, and will have devastating consequences across the country,' Democratic Senator Patty Murray and Democratic Representative Rosa DeLauro wrote.

"We write today to urge you in the strongest possible terms to uphold the law and the Constitution and ensure all federal resources are delivered in accordance with the law."

....

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jan 25 - 12:56 PM

What is next is that all the money that was supposed to go help people will now stay in Washinton so that in a few months when Trump goes to lower taxes on billionaires he will show a huge amount of money available to do so.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jan 25 - 01:11 PM

In other words, if you were a bank robber you would not want any money transferred out of the bank you will rob.
Of the 300 executive orders, 95% of them are designed to create a diversion from the 'heist'.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jan 25 - 01:29 PM

An exception to this freeze of all payments is the third rail of Social Security, the majority of which ends up in the pockets of landlords.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jan 25 - 06:46 PM

The Trump emails have gone out to government workers stating "If you resign now we will be nice to you". The strategy is to destroy the government leaving an oligarchal monarchy.

Those employees weighing their options know the courts will take years while the President can act in 5 minutes.

We had a Republic if we could keep it. So far we can't if intimidation and blackmail works.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jan 25 - 08:14 PM

The Trump email came directly from OPM office of personnel management for the first time in history by bypassing the firewall security system. Everyone got the email saying if you don't resign now your benefits will disappear. This email strategy is similar to the Musk email that got most of Twitter to resign. Without a brave solidarity, this will destroy the Federal government's ability to survive.
This will be a week of profiling one's courage or cowardice.

Like climate change, the revolution is here and now.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Jan 25 - 10:38 PM

There are protections in the law for federal employees. There are protections in the law for citizens that Trump is trying to do an end-run around.

Just tonight the White House reversed itself from some of the funding it blocked (for AIDS drugs, etc.) This funding freeze is illegal.

I've sent letters and messages via the various official sites for the two senators and the representative in my state. I'm going to be doing a lot of this. Now that I have it set up I hope to be able to dash off messages as often as needed. If we all do it, it gets noticed.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President 1 thread
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 29 Jan 25 - 01:57 AM

When it comes to energy, Donald Trump is China’s useful idiot The US president’s ‘drill, baby, drill’ strategy ignores long-term global trends

Donald Trump is late to the shale party. The fracking boom of the last 15 years has largely run its course as the best seams are exploited and productivity declines.

Even if the geology holds up, the pace of drilling will be set by the global price of oil, the US price of gas, and the cost of capital – already higher on market fears of inflationary overheating and debt addiction.

“We will drill, baby, drill. We will be a rich nation again, and it is that liquid gold under our feet that will help to do it,” said the president at his Orwellian inaugural.

He was beaten to it by Barack Obama, Trump 1.0, and Joe Biden. America is already a rich nation and the world’s energy hegemon. The burning question now is whether Trump 2.0 will throw it away. (read on)