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GUEST, A Regular 05 Oct 04 - 11:07 PM
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Subject: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: GUEST, A Regular
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 11:07 PM

I'm 60 years old and I live in the U.S.

For half my life I figured out that my country has been at war, in Viet Nam, in Korea, in the Gulf, or somewhere.

When my time came, I joined up and marched. I was shot at, and I came through it unwounded.

Now my country has a doctrine of "pre-emptive strikes" -- that seems to me to be like Pearl Harbor under a different name. I see people who lost good, well paying jobs they'd held for years who now don't have insurance and are living from hand to mouth, scratching out money for them and their families. Some of my friends go to the VA for injuries received in combat, but the VA money and availability has been cut at the same time we're bringing more wounded home from another war. The environment is in shambles, the land raped for the profit of a few.

These thoughts came to me when I was listing to the song "Pat In America" on the Gallant Sons of Erin's "No Irish need apply" CD.

Arrah, do boys, do take my advice
To America I'd have you not be coming,
For there is nothing here but war,
And the murdering cannon's roar,
Faith I wish I was at home in Dear Old Erin.


Yes, I'm depressed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Once Famous
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 11:11 PM

That's your problem, Bud.

There are a lot of good things in life to be thankful for and to me living in America is definately one of them.

Dude, you're a bummer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Padre
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 11:15 PM

When you get a little older, things will look better (if you can see them)


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 11:20 PM

Never mind MG that one day you too will grow older and might have reflections on what has happened in your lifetime.

But there again if the West goes on the way it is today and what with the threats posed to it you might not have an old age to grow into.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 11:21 PM

There are even more things to be thankful for if you're living in a number of other places I can think of...but one can be miserable or happy anywhere, actually.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 11:24 PM

A lot of good things in America are under attack, Martin, and eternal vigilance, as someone said, is the price of freedom. Denial doesn't buy anything at all.

At this point we have enemies both domestic and foreign, and we're getting deeper in the big muddy.

It's depressing to us 73-year-olds too. Something's got to be done.

clint


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 11:32 PM

Guest, A Regular,as an upper 60s person I undestand what you are saying, and I agree. Life in our country wasn't supposed to be like this. We grew up proud of our heritage and hopeful for our future. Suddenly it seems that the USA has passed the peak and is on a down slide. And we don't know what to do about it, or eve if there is something we can do.

I remind myself every now and again that in all probability our aims and expectations were too high, that Europe was right, that we have been naive and cocky, even arrogant, about our country and its role in the world. They would probably say, "Welcome to our World". Except that we haven't been making all that many friends that would wish us well lately.

Feeling rueful and contrite and beginning to be ready to accept responsibility for the messes we have made wouold be a start- but I see no serious indication of that on a national level. So what are we to do?

MG, you might want to go play with whatever you play with- you wouldn't understand this subject.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 11:33 PM

I am even older, and I am frustrated, not exactly depressed....but I can TELL veryone who will listen that my country should NOT have a policy of pre-emptive strikes with empty rationale...it gives me a certain goal.

But with old age comes a certain amount of, if not 'wisdom', at least perspective, and I don't like what I see as a tendency for humans to hide their heads in the sand and lie to themselves about what is happening...in ALL areas.

I can enjoy what is still good, point at what is bad, and take solace that in the last analysis, the universe doesn't care what we do in this teeny little corner.

Depression is...ummmm...depressing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 11:42 PM

I agree with you too, Bill D- there are MANY good things to life and living, music and friends big factors in it. But it seems that more and more I have to compartmentalize the hugely good from the parts I hardly dare peek into. If I picture my life as a series of boxes which range in shade from bright and light to the upper extreme of black, there are far more grey boxes than there used to be.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Amos
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 11:54 PM

Ebbie:

Subtract from that total those that have grayed over time because of your own vitality, or aches and pains.

I am pretty sure that in spite of the grotesqueries being promoted by those of low awareness in the world, there are still far more elements of good and of beauty in the universe than there are of evil.

Seriously though, it would be nice if we could boil it all down to one mission, like Frodo's ring job. Imagine being able to resolve this long-duration angst about the forces of darkness with one fell swoop!! Huzzah!!

Sigh--I guess we just have to keep doing the best we can.




A


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Peace
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 12:03 AM

I have three years to consider what my thread with this title will read like. However, read what Clint and Bill wrote, Guest, Regular. Buddy, I didn't think there was life after 30. SURPRISE!

Tomorrow, hey, this'll look better.

Martin, how the heck are you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: dianavan
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:02 AM

Dear Regular,

You're not alone. Many people are upset about what America has become. Be thankful that you are aware and that you have not become apathetic. Many have detatched entirely. Keep talking to others and give your opinion.

The best way to get 'out of the dumps' is to do something kind for someone. There are always those who need a helping hand.

diana

P.S. Don't pay any attention to Martin. The only place where he can survive is America. Can you believe people are dying to protect his right to be a slob?


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: GUEST,peedeecee
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:11 AM

Guest, I am 63, and I understand how you are feeling, and often share it. I found one answer, which is a bit selfish, is to narrow your perspective down to the things that you can affect personally. In other words, make a difference in the places you can, and let the larger picture resolve itself. Help with the larger picture if and when you can, but definitely do what you can in your own sphere.

Of course America wasn't supposed to be like this. Nor was the world. What went wrong? There are too many answers, and the problem is too complex to sort out. If you make yourself depressed and nonfunctional, you will simply have worsened the problem -- draw your vision in a little and do what you can.

Hope it helps.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Sorcha
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:18 AM

I'm only 53, and I'm kinda apathetic...because even though I vote, I don't think it means anything anymore. Yes, I'm sad about what this country has become now. I can think of places that might be better, but I'm really not interested in emigrating...can't afford it either. I will still vote, for what little it's worth now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:19 AM

So should Dubya be considered a nameless ork, or is it better to cast him as Saruman? He looks more like an ork, but he has the power to act like the evil wizard.

One doesn't have to be older than 50 to share those same feelings, having come through the Vietnam war and having a strong awareness of Korea right before it. Parents who were both WWII vets. And now Bush pisses on the rest of the world like he's entitled to.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:42 AM

More people than ever have registered to vote this time. So much so that in many places additional staff have been added to process the registrations.

Young people on college and high school campuses everywhere are protesting, getting out the vote, and have the smae optimism that all young people do when they are galvanised, such as in not wanting their friends and themselves to be used as cannon fodder in a stupid war.

There IS hope...and good can prevail, esp. if we use the power of our minds and spoken words to encourage alternative messages to those of fear, death and destruction ala the shrub and cronies.

Talk to young people. Watch the Daily Show with John Stewart. Yes, it's on the Comedy Channel, but his messages are clear, interviews are sharp and young people are listening to him and his guests.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 02:29 AM

Yes by god! John Stewart has the best news & commentary show in years. Ever, in fact.

clint


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 04:45 AM

I don't think you can equate Pearl harbour, an attack on FDR's America with an attack on a shit like Saddam Hussein. Although I suppose it maybe felt the same if you got in the way of one of the bombs.

I guess that's one for the conscience of Bush and Blair - even though we elected them.

I note there are some people in this thread who feel that Bush is an honourable man . I feel the same way about Blair. There are also people who detest Bush. Atleast we have a democracy and we can express our feelings , which means we are sitting prettier than some poor sods.

And you're quite right, if your country is like ours - we should treat our war veterans better....much better.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: greg stephens
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 05:02 AM

It must be so awful to be that old. I'm only 59 and 9 months, so I'm just fine and happy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Amos
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 07:53 AM

He's an orc who was promoted beyond his competency level, thus invoking the Peter Principle. The Saruman influence comes from Cheney, Rove et al.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 08:14 AM

Yo, 60,

As I read your post I was reminded of a one of my elderly clients back when I was working as a social worker. Her name was Matilda Hieztman and she was a holocost survivor. I remember her telling my about the imaginative ways that she and her fellow concentration camp friends would rustle up smidgens of food and would wait for the right occasion and have a little party. It's hard to think of folks who were in such a desperate situation finding such spirit but her stories serve me to this very day.

Yeah, we have a very evil and corrupt government and, yeah, the prospects of it changing don't look good but, hey, we also are also individually blessed with a spirit that allows us to find some joy amid those realities. So, I'd suggest, 60, that you get out more, spend more time with your friends, play more music or participate in whatever in the past has brought you joy and allow your spirit to carry you through these difficult times.

And, one last thing. No where is it chizzeled in stone that you have to stay here while the evilness plays itself out.

Now get to work, dang it!

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Amos
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 08:36 AM

Sure, mon, it is a murderous place, and clearly at least half the people here are comfortable with murderous impulses. But the good people will find each other, likewise.
The ones who will not find each other are those who decline in apathetic resignation. There is no occasion for it.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: GUEST,Displaced Camelotian
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 09:22 AM

Things may be bad but no worse, it seems to me, than usual. The fact that, once again, neither party has managed to nominate a really inspiring ticket makes the scene look drearier than it might.

Surely the world was worse off in 1942. And the nation is in far better shape than it was between 1967 and 1974, when the Vietnam War was raging with far more intensity than the current conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq, the economy was poor, hard drug use was skyrocketing,leaders were assassinated, and riots swept every major U.S. city. (In Indianapolis in the late '90s, you could still see the burned-out wreckage of the 1968 riot.)

Nowadays the spectre of catastrophic terrorist attacks is all too real, but perhaps it's less horrible than was the threat of general nuclear war with the Soviets. Many people have a hard time now realizing just how close to mutual destruction we came, on more than one occasion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 12:21 PM

When folks around my age (69) talk about the good old days and how the world is going to Hell, I ask.. "Which good old days are you talking about?" I'm not sure if they're talking about the Big Band Era and classic movies or the Holocaust and the KKK lynching blacks.
In the fifties, I wouldn't have dared to take my wife (who is black) to my hometown in southern Wisconsin. Now, we move comfortably and are warmly greeted everywhere we go. Truth is, I don't miss a lot of what is called the Good Old Days, despite being distraught at times about the present. Just remember, These will be the "Good Old Days" to people forty years from now.

If you're looking for hope in mankind, you're always going to dig for diamonds in the dirt. If all I had was Bush and Blair and gas for $2.25, life would be depressing. I have desire to hijack this thread to talk about faith, but faith gives me hope that mankind alone can not.

Wrote a song about it... first verse pretty much sums it up:

"I take cold comfort in the ways of man
I see no justice in this land
I feel the anger of the un-stayed hand
May my heart find rest in Thee"

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 12:29 PM

I keep wanting to add something to this thread.

I understand why you feel the way you do.

I wish I had words to help you feel differently..

But I don't.

Try reading Sir jOhn of Hull's posts.

They've helped me deal with the fall of humankind with a smile on my face.

..xx..e


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 12:48 PM

You folk are making this way too complicated, feeding depression. The world has been fraught with injustice for millennia past and will be for millennia to come. Cast your vote to throw them out of office for the egregious misdeed of preemptive war, then, as dianavan said, go do something nice for other people. It really is as simple as that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Once Famous
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 12:54 PM

Jerry's got the right attitude.

If you are depressed, go see a psychiatrist and he will give you some medication.

I am no spring chicken at 54. I have 50 years of memories and life is better every day if you look around you and make the world work to your advantage.

If you have time feeling sorry for yourself, you have too much time on your hands.

sorry, but you gloom and doomers ought to get a life.

Brucie, I am just fine. Hope all is good for you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: GUEST,Regular
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:11 PM

Nope, MG, I'm feeling sorry because of what I see around me.

I'm not going to suicide or anything. And I'm certainly not going to move elsewhere, because that would be quitting and I wasnt' brought up to be a quitter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: freda underhill
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:28 PM

GUEST, Regular, I know how you feel, because i feel like that sometimes too (but i'm not sixty yet). I have watched our country, which used to be a great place, be raided by the thugs, bribe takers, racists and crooks that call themselves our current government.

strangely, ive found a great way of making myself feel better - by throwing things out that i no longer need - old books (to second hand shops) clothes, (to friends or shops) and all the mindless clutter that accumulates. this seems to leave space for some positive energy to come in. not that it helps move one bit those ratbags in power. we have an election in a couple of days. that gives me two days of hope.

and i have some old friends - like old socks, comfortable, dependable and irreplaceable. maybe in two days time we'll get together and have a good cry. or maybe a good laugh and scream. depending on the election outcome!

good luck n best wishes,

freda


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: GUEST,peedeecee
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:37 PM

Martin Gibson may not have depression, but he's a carrier.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:44 PM

Hey, MG is saying some positive things about what he still finds to appreciate in this country. That's gotta count for something.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: kendall
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:48 PM

I am not a gloom and doom type. I am, however, an historian and a pragmatist. The world has been going to hell in a handbasket since the cavemen discovered clubs. It's simply a longer trip than we first thought. Say, are we picking up speed, or is it my imagination?


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:51 PM

Kendall, it just goes to show the results of the American Indians' loose immigration policies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:56 PM

GUEST,A Regular, I think I can see where you're coming from. You've made a huge investment in the fundamental principles that this country is supposed to be all about; freedom, democracy, regard for human life, etc., by your service to this country. Getting shot at, even if you weren't physically hurt, must put the nature of your service to this country in pretty stark perspective. And you see that your sacrifice for this country, and the sacrifice made by others who have served this country in wars, those who have been wounded, and especially those who gave the ultimate sacrifice, seems to have been in vain at best, and at worst, for all the wrong reasons.

I can understand how you might find that pretty depressing. But I think you can also look at what your experiences have taught you. Maybe as a result of those experiences, you have much more wisedom, and a better sense of perspective to offer the world than you might have otherwise had. The world needs as much wisedom as it can get. I'm glad you're here to offer yours. That's one of the good things we can be thankful for.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Once Famous
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 02:29 PM

Hardly, guest peedeecee.

I am a carrier of nothing but some blunt truth. sorry you have trouble like guest, Regular dealing with such things.

This is a wonderful world and a wonderful country we live in.

I really mean that. And if you have a problem with either, it is your life that is suffering for it, not mine. I suggest that you really try to do something about it, no matter how old you are or feel and figure out what it's going to take for you to wake up every morning and count your blessings for what you have.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 04:07 PM

Martin, I hate bitching, but really a bit of compassion for the human condition wouldn't go amiss.

And if this guy fought for us then we all owe him for defending the freedoms that we enjoy and make everyday just such a bloody good fun for you along with the rest of us. .....

My Dad got to feeling a bit like that at one time. He worked all his life. he had been a soldier and a cop and a nurse. He said to me once , I never made anything...

I said, you kept the streets safe.

He said, yes but that's such a negative thing.....

what I'm saying people do get to feeling a bit low sometimes. they don't necessarily need medication. Sometimes just having a someone to show friendship, in a world that can be a very unfriendly place. Well its more likely to do the trick than saying , snap out of it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Once Famous
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 04:11 PM

As if coming here is the answer, Huh?

Get real. I mean real.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: LilyFestre
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 04:37 PM

Well said WeeLittleDrummer!

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Once Famous
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 04:40 PM

Snap out of it, LilyFestre.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Joe_F
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 06:15 PM

To paraphrase Winston Churchill, the USA is the most dreadful country in the world, except for the other ones that you read about in the papers.

I could name quite a number of things in which America is preeminent that I find shameful. But, for most people, it still means wealth & freedom, and to some of us it means home. None of those things is to be despised.

Be 67 this month.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Peace
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 07:49 PM

Guest, Regular,

Much of what we feel has to do with the size of the boat we feel we're in. People who are in a canoe can have much more control much more quickly that those in an ocean liner. The world got more immediate than it ever has been before. Today, we can watch five minute updates on the status of Mount St Helens; we can get hourly updates on news events; we can get responses from people 12,000 miles away in a flash. We now control very little of any of these events. And we also seem to think that our votes don't really matter. But hey, who said they ever did? Who said we matter at all to anyone except maybe a few folks who love us or care for us? I have never been important to anyone except maybe my kids. What does that show for 57 years of life? But on the other side of that there is the realization that maybe being loved by only a person or two is not the end of the world. Maybe it's the beginning of one. And maybe today is the day you take Ellenpoly's advice and read jOhn's threads, because he has a whimsical and strange--yet neat--view of this world and about how sometimes humour can take the edge off some heavy stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: kendall
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 07:57 PM

"Nothing is good or bad. Thinking makes them so." Shakespere


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 08:23 PM

well why not, I have encountered quite a lot of friendship and helpfulness on mudcat.

theres nobody down my street who woulld know about Spider John Koerner or Jackson C Frank or even Martin Carthy. I did a gig this afternoon, I'm too shagged out to go to one of the local folk clubs - mudcat is on hand - a little community where evrybody knows that the ceiling is up and the floor is down - most of the time, anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Peace
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 08:28 PM

Koerner, Ray and Glover. Cool. Heard them live once in Boston, I think. Very cool.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Morticalia
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 11:00 PM

i have heard that song sung by sinéad o'connor, slightly differently...

hear ye boys, now take my advice, to america i'd have ye's not be comin', there is nothin' here but war, where the murdering cannons roar, and i wish i was at home, in dear old dublin...

wow those old irish ballads depress me


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Peace
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 11:02 PM

The songs ain't half as depressing as the wars.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 07 Oct 04 - 03:24 AM

Hey---I like Jon Stewart too; I reckon I'm in the "bummer" category as well. Being at the Clint Keller stage in life, I do have some thoughts which might affect a less cheery soul. Thoughts of Bush, Blair, Hussein, Osama, Hitler, Stalin and now Martin Gibson. And the rainy season has begun in B.C.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Oct 04 - 04:02 AM

they've got planet hollywood in Dublin now - Arnie has left his mark - you'd feel quite at home there - they'd even lay on a few cannons for you - a very hospitable nation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Oct 04 - 06:45 AM

Nothing is so depressing as cheerfullness in the wrong place.

I always feel that the right way to cope with trouble is to look at it, decide what is the worst you can expect, and then say "I can cope with that" and get on with things. People who say "I'm sure it's all going to be fine" just bring me down.

It's rather the same attitude as singing the blues as a way of gettig over them. And it's related to the approach taken by someone trying to fix an engine - they look for what is wrong, and concentrate on that. You wouldn't want your car fixed by someone whose whole focus was on picking out the things that hadn't gone wrong. (I use that analogy because I've just been reading the Ladies No 1 Detective Agency books, including the estimable car mechanic Mr. JLB Maketoni - I recommend these to cheer anyone up.)

People seem to like arguing about whether everything has got better or worse, and that's missing the point - some things are better, some are worse, and the balance is going to be different for all of us, depending on what happens on our lives, and what matters most to us.

As for Frodo and the Ring Quest sorting out everything, that's to misunderstand Tolkien. He wasn't presenting the end of Sauron as the final defeat of evil, it was a temporary victory in a struggle which never ends. An episode in "a long defeat", even.   

Jerry's song there seems to hit the right note. I'd like to see the rest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Depressing Thoughts Of A 60 Yr. Old
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 07 Oct 04 - 07:20 AM

Here it is, Kevin:

Eyes Of Faith

I take cold comfort in the ways of man
I find no justice in this land
I feel the anger of the un-stayed hand
May my heart find rest in Thee

CHORUS:

   And in the darkness, give me the eyes of faith
   In my sorrow, send down your healing grace
   And on my journey, may my path be straight
   May my heart find rest in Thee

Give me the wisdom, that I might understand
Give me the courage, that I might take my stand
And when I'm weary, lend me a helping hand
May my heart find rest in Thee

Some spend their life in a search for power
Ignoring treasures time can't devour
All that I ask in my final hour
May my heart find rest in Thee

Jerry


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