Review: Bob Dylan's latest!: 'Modern Times'

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 06:21 PM

Ron, If you know how to make an old-fashioned miniature bow device for starting a fire...or you know how to use a flint...or a magnifying glass... then you don't need matches. Matches are very convenient, of course, but they are not absolutely necessary.

Philosopher, I am particularly in agreement with your view that people are blocked from knowing God by "fear of losing (their) own identity". Absolutely!!! That is probably the most important single factor.

After all, they would have to give up their customary fears, prejudices, hatreds, grudges, negative judgements upon self and others, etc....because all that is a big part of what they think of as "my identity" or "myself". They think they'd be utterly lost without it, when actually they would be found in the most profound way.

This reluctance to surrender the false (negative) self is as true of me, by the way, as it is of most other people. I recognize the problem...but I have not yet overcome it. Old habits are very hard to break. In most cases they persist until physical life ends, and quite possibly even long after that.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 11:01 PM

Fellas,

I have to agree with Fat Bastard. Let's get back to Bob's new CD.

I listened to rest of the tracks. I enjoyed it, but don't think that it is some of his best work. However, I will probably buy it and enjoy it. I really like what has happened to his voice. I has aged very well.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 11:01 PM

Personally, I'm stuck on a plato in my banjo picking and I think a few weeks working on Mike Iverson's version of Jerulalem Ridge might help me break out of this platonic rut.

--seed

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 12:07 AM

Well, there are worse situations than that. You could be stuck on a socrates.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 01:26 PM

You lot of pseuds are talking total Bullshit. For fuck's sake it's only a pop record. Get out of your own assholes and appreciate Dylan for what he is - a pop star!

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 01:55 PM

When, oh WHEN will we merit your approval, Guest?   (sob!)

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 03:31 PM

Dylan is a pop star but has a messup philosophy,
philosopher

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 03:38 PM

His philosophy is just fine thank you. It is music, not a cry for help.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 04:05 PM

Amen Ron.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: erinmaidin
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 05:03 PM

"pop" stars don't usually have a career that endures for 40 yrs.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: pdq
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 05:28 PM

Frank Sinatra was a major force in Pop music from 1939 until his death in 1998. That 59 years.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 05:38 PM

Bob Dylan has been a number of things. A pop star is one of them.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: number 6
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 08:18 PM

I hopped in my Japanese car tonite, drove over the local Big Box Electronic store and dropped $17 cdn for Bob's Modern Times ... took the long way home puposely as I listened to it on my cd car player ... all I can say it is pretty damned good, the hype was on the mark with this ... I'm one of those skeptics when it comes to Bob's post 1960 recordings (with the exception of Blood on the Tracks) but I must say it is refreshing to hear Bob on top again ... I don't know who the session musicians where on this but I swear I hear the late Kenny Buttrey on the drums.

sIx

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 04 Sep 06 - 03:18 PM

Good cripse there's a lot of useless blather in this thread.... (Not surprising when Little Hawk is navel-gazing around)

Which is too bad, cause I dled 'Modern Times' the other day, and man oh man this is a damn fine CD... I even like the 'extra' tracks

Nice job, Zimmy... Now what?

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Sep 06 - 03:20 PM

We agree. It is a damn fine CD.

Subject: RE: New Dylan Album : 'Modern Times'
From: Johnhenry'shammer
Date: 04 Sep 06 - 09:23 PM

Absolutley amazing. 10 brilliant tracks. I only wish there was more. I can't wait to see if he comes to Denver on his tour.

Subject: RE: New Dylan Album : 'Modern Times'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Sep 06 - 12:21 AM

Yeah. Those of little faith and even less goodwill can go find something else to citicize now. ;-)

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Sep 06 - 03:19 AM

Maybe marry these 2 threads

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=93649&messages=15

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 05 Sep 06 - 09:22 AM

Too many tossers on this thread. Bought it today stuck it in the car CD player and drove to work. Bloody marvellous!

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!
From: the one
Date: 05 Sep 06 - 11:06 AM

steady now.

Subject: bob dylan's latest album modern times
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Sep 06 - 05:01 PM

Bob dylan's latest album is a masterpiece. This man gets better by every single year.
MArk

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Duplicate threads combined.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: bob dylan's latest album modern times
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Sep 06 - 05:05 PM

Yeah, it's a very good one, but this is the 3rd thread on that subject.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!: 'Modern Times'
From: erinmaidin
Date: 06 Sep 06 - 07:58 AM

Ah..but is this not the first thread since "we" got to listen to it?
Besides, it kinda got cluttered up with question of who will be redeemed and who will be "vomited into hell"! (giggle). I was stunned, stunned I tell you! when I found out that I only have ten tracks! The order will be placed with Amazon tonight...enjoyed the video clip on Amazon's site. I don't know about the rest of you but I find him totally mesmerizing...and why??? dunno...he does very little, just plays and sings, but jaysus (o dear...religious aspects creeping in again), he does it quite well.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!: 'Modern Times'
From: the one
Date: 06 Sep 06 - 08:04 AM

has he still got to paint his masterpiece.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!: 'Modern Times'
From: Scrump
Date: 06 Sep 06 - 08:08 AM

I haven't heard it yet, but the track I heard on radio the other day sounded pretty good if not stunning enough to make me want to rush out and buy the CD (but then I rarely do that these days, I usually buy them at live gigs).

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!: 'Modern Times'
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 10 Sep 06 - 07:58 PM

Picked it up today. I'm enjoying it. It seems like a continuation of Love & Theft (sorry Peter). The band is great. I especially like Workingman's Blues #2, Beyond the Horizon and his treatment of Rollin' and Tumblin'.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!: 'Modern Times'
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Sep 06 - 09:13 PM

As usual, Dylan worshippers decided they loved the CD before they had even heard it, still believe him to be the 'voice of a generation' etc, etc. No surprise there.

Or on the CD, which I listened to in it's entirety. I'm with Peter T on this one. A rambling bit of, ah, well...not even the band could salvage it, IMO.

I also recently heard live tapes of his last tour--the Fall 2005, from a friend who stage manages at one of the venues he played . Won't be spending my money on Dylan tickets any time soon. The voice is not improving with age, technology just makes it sound as if he still has one.

I keep wanting to have one of those Dylan epiphanies that seem so popular these days among the old timers, but...even 'Time Out of Mind' didn't do it for me. I found 'Slow Train Coming', Shot of Love, et al to be about as brilliant as the Cat Stevens conversion. Dylan as philosopher? Oh yeah, he's almost as brilliant as Ayn Rand.

80s Dylan sucked. The Bootleg Series I bought, but that's all his oldie stuff. This dude has been skatin' on his rep for a couple of decades, IMO. This album is just another in a long line of mediocre attempts to rehash the past. One more time. Thanks, I've already got a shit load of Dylan that sounds just like this. I won't be buying the CD, thanks very much.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!: 'Modern Times'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 03:44 PM

That's good. We certainly wouldn't want you to feel compelled to listen to music you don't like, because that can make a person crabby and critical.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!: 'Modern Times'
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 03:51 PM

"As usual, Dylan worshippers decided they loved the CD before they had even heard it"

Really? Where? Please show us who said that.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!: 'Modern Times'
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 04:12 PM

Its an interesting album - coming, as it does, in the wake of the Chronicles book that told us how he works - how he searches for inspiration, and musicians that inspire him.

The rolling and tumbling thing is really interesting. Was it skip James who came up with that hook riff originally - i forget? What Dylan's done there, reminds me a bit of what Lonnie Donnegan used to do to folk an folk blues material. Very nice and creative though, you could do a whole album like that - Smokestack Lightnin' anybody?

I feel sure that shooting from the hip with criticism, is probably less than this work from a master songwriter deserves.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!: 'Modern Times'
From: bobad
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 10:56 AM

When I hear him singing "Beyond The Horizon" I can't help but picture him performing in front of a group of seniors, waltzing on a cruise ship.

Subject: RE: Review: Bob Dylan's latest!: 'Modern Times'
From: oggie
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 11:45 AM

I got this and Tom Petty's 'Highway Companion' at the same time. I've listened to the Dylan once, Tom Petty's my music of choice in the car at the moment. For me that says it all.

All the best

oggie