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Dusting off Xmas repertoire

Ana 14 Nov 99 - 05:27 AM
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Liz the Squeak 14 Nov 99 - 09:04 AM
catspaw49 14 Nov 99 - 09:17 AM
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Subject: Xmas repertoire
From: Ana
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 05:27 AM

OK folks - help needed. Ever dusted off the end of year song repertoire with a sense of "here we go again...same old..same old"? I would really like to hear about others choices - not necessarily religious, as I'm a vaguely pagan sort of being. Humour's good; I prefer lyrical/melodic songs though. I also guess that the speedo flipping over its zero's will make this end of year more significant than most. So what are you thinking of singing/playing/working on that would inspire me (and hopefully others!)?. Thanks - An


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Llanfair
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 05:46 AM

Really must learn the words to "Fairy Tale of New York" I am always being asked to do it, but can only ever remember the first verse. Otherwise, "In the Bleak Midwinter", "The Wren," "White Christmas",(bet no-one else admits to that!)Stuff like that. Good thread, perhaps I'll be able to learn some more. Hwyl, Bron.


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Bugsy
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 06:14 AM

There's a great song that John Denver wrote. (I'm sorry, my tongue is so firmly in my cheek that I find it hard to type!)Called: "Please Daddy" that starts:-

Please Daddy don't get drunk this Christmas

I don't want to see my momma cry,.....

I must admit that whenever I have sung it, the audience falls apart laughing. It's a great ice breaker. Perhaps it has something to do with the introduction I give it or the Yodelling in the chorus.

Great stuff!!!!

Cheers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Gary T
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 08:51 AM

Gordon Lightfoot's "Circle of Steel" is partly set at Christmas, it's a bit of a downer but well crafted, makes you think. His "Song for a Winter's Night" is nice. This year I'm going to learn the "Christmas Boogie", which I have on a tape of country music Xmas songs my nephew put together for me. It's by the Davis Sisters, which I figure must be Frances Davis (real name, died in early-mid 1950's) and Skeeter Davis (stage name, had chart hit in 60's or 70's). It's uptempo and a lot of fun. Sounds great with Davis Sisters harmony. For the coming of the cold season, Joni Mitchell's "Urge for Going" is one of my favorites. Hard to find her recording (I haven't yet, been told it's only on flip side of 45 of "Big Yellow Taxi"), but Tom Rush does it on his "Circle Game" album, somebody like George Hamilton IV does a very nice version I heard a few times on a radio station playing obscure country music. Hope one of these appeals to you.


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 09:04 AM

I find using different tunes to the old standards gives them a new lease of life ~ using Pentonville or Lyngham to 'While Shepherds watched' is good, but using 'Ilkely Moor bar t'at' is even better.

With only a little bit of jiggling, Rudolph the red nosed reindeer goes quite nicely to 'British Grenadiers'.

Try some of the old gallery carols, don't ask me where you get them, if it isn't in the Oxford Book of Carols, I have no idea, but there are some there. Doing carol tunes with different instruments in an unusual setting works well too, like taking the folk band into church, or around a hospital (hint - they don't really like bagpipes in the maternity units - it sounds like another baby yelling and sets them all off - my daughter screamed every time she heard pipes played).

Or write your own celebrating your own deity/festival, I once heard the ghastliest version of 'Walking in the air', from the Raymond Briggs cartoon 'The Snowman', on the lines of: 'We're following a star....', so dreadful I forgot it instantly, but did manage to snag a copy of the words - I'll see if I can find them and annoy everyone!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 09:17 AM

Well finally we've found a use for you around here Squeak!!! LMAO Great idea.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Terry Allan Hall
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 09:23 AM

Here's a few "mutated" Xmas songs:

Jimbob, the Red-neck Reindeer (a tacky little ditty my daughter and I made up a few years ago...you know the chords, I'd bet...)

JimBob, the Red-neck Reindeer Had a piss-poor attitude Stood around scratching his cojones And acting in a manner rude

JimBob, her liked his Lone Star, He liked honky-tonk from dust to dawn He liked to dance to the "Cotton-eyed Joe" And hurl his guts on Santa's lawn

Then one fuzzy Christmas day, Rudolf came to say "JimBob, you're just Cowtown trash!" And JimBob knocked him on his "heiney"

Then all the other reindeer Were afraid they'd get what Rudolf got So, Jimbob the Red-neck Reindeer Is still the toughest buck on Santa's lot!

and then...

I'm Gonna Wear A Santa Suit This X-mas (from the album "Twisted Christmas, Vol. 1)

A E7 A I'm gonna wear a Santa suit this Christmas A7 D As soon as I can get out on parole E7 I'll hang around your street A F#7 Your kids I'd love to meet B7 E7 As soon as I can get out of this hole A7 E7 A And I don't mind slidin' down your chimney A7 D 'Cause I just spent 15 years unloading coal D7 A F#7 I'm gonna wear a Santa suit this Christmas B7 E7 A As soon as I can get on parole

I'm anxious to be out among the living And I've made a list of folks I plan to see Duded up in red and white Instead of these old stripes Can you imagine how surprised their gonna be? I know the home town folks'll be glad to see me 'Cause by now it's slipped their mind how much I stole I'm gonna...

I'm careful to be on my best behavior 'Cause the warden watches everything I do I'm so glad he didn't see That fight in cell block 3 Or I'd here until I'm 92 Just a few more questions from that nice commitee And through those rusty gates I'll proudly stroll I'm gonna...

Kinda get's ya in that "holiday spirit", huh? ;-)


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Mark in Mass
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 09:49 AM

"Down in Yon Forest," in Lorraine Lee Hammond's "The Magic Dulcimer" (Yellow Moon Press, Cambridge) is a traditional English carol with a pagan feel to it: e.g. verse 3: Down under that bed there runs a flood; The bells of Paradise I heard them ring; The half it runs water, the half it runs blood. And I love my Lord Jesus above anything." The nativity takes place in a hall in a forest, rather than a manger in Bethlehem, and the mystery celebrated is that of birth itself, rather than a particular birth.


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 09:56 AM

See, everyone needs their token Christian at some time!!!

Seriously, as I think I mentioned elsewhere, I've been in a church choir for very nearly 3/4 of my life, that is nearly 27 years of singing bloody O little town, and the distressing First Nowell.... I'm sure people love them, because they are only heard once a year, but they are particularly intollerant of any other idea at the end of the year. Bit of 'testifying' here now. I became a Christian because I looked at the other 'teams' around me at the time, and decided that JC and the rest were my sort of team. However, that doesn't mean that I automatically deny every other team exists. That would be like saying I was a West Ham supporter and that Arsenal were non-exisitant (like their chances in the cup this year, snigger snigger), I still have a great deal of sympathy for some of the earlier religions, particularly that of the goddess, and of Wicca. I've been to some of their celebrations, the earth didn't swallow me up, and I didn't feel wrong, or out of place. But I do feel a bit sad, when we sing carols that are so obviously written for a different deity - the Holly and the Ivy is one prime example, a tree worship song if ever I heard one - and I get really steamed when I sing a song that maybe doesn't express the Christian view of Christmas - even the totally pagan wren hunting got twisted to a Christian perspective, and people jump up and down and say that isn't a Christmas song... What has 'White Christmas' got to do with a) the weather, who wants to spend the holidays waiting for the snowplough so you can just go to the shops, or b) with the birth of a prophet/messiah 2000 odd years ago in a sub tropical country, who was probably more than olive in skin tone.... But no-one complains when that gets played to death do they....

Incidentally, Lyngham is otherwise known as the jolly tune for 'O for a thousand tongues to sing', you know, the one that goes into different parts for the last line.

And 'O little Town' can fit to 'Jerusalem', if you do a couple of wiggles.....

Please can anyone suggest a new tune for 'O come all ye faithful'? Even my twisted brain can't come up with an alternative for THAT!!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: MMario
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 10:42 AM

a beautiful christmas carol that hasn't had overexposure is the Huron Carol.


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Micca
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 11:15 AM

Try these they had me ROTFLMAOAHMS it if is just for the craic, as LtS says tho' Sheperds watch their flocks to Ilkley moor is very effective. especially if you have good singers, Liz the Squeak, because of all this choir stuff sings wonderful descant onall kinds of stuff, You should here her when we sing "Oh my darling clementine" to the tune of "Bread of Heaven" (Sorry Bron, he says running for cover0 @parody @pagan filename[ FALSPAGN @parody @Xmas @seasonal filename[ HARIXMAS


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: sophocleese
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 11:33 AM

My partner and I are doing a couple of small christmas things so we've been looking at seasonal stuff that doesn't require a full choir to sound really good. A lot of christmas tunes I like better when sung with a choir. However, we're doing God Rest You Merry Gentlemen as a waltz, which actually sounds quite nice, (we dropped the Russian version where you emphasize the beat between lines with a loud basso "HEY!"). One song I love is Maddy Prior's Long Shadows, its a winter song and very nice. There's a gentle song in the Oxford Books of Carols called Men from the Fields, well suited for single voice and any instrument that can carry the chords to it. A local group likes to do Good King Wencelas and head straight into Red Wing on the fiddle.


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Mbo
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 11:53 AM

I like the Czech Christmas Lullaby "Rocking," the J.J. Niles gem "Jesus Jesus Rest Your Head," all the carols from "The Bells of Dublin" by The Cheiftains. Like: The Boar's head Carol; Past 3 o'clock; Once in Royal David's City; The Holly She Bears a Berry; and especially Jackson Browne's great "The Rebel Jesus" --"They changed the nature that I worship in from a temple to a robber's den..." So true. So true.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 12:03 PM

The Huron Carol is so underexposed I've never heard of it - any chance of a run through?? I'm still a relative virgin at this, so if the tune has a name just send that, no way could I get a wave file out of this thing... Or if you want to send something to me privately that I might get, use liz_the_squeak@ukgateway.net and it should get to me. I visited Santa Marie among the Hurons whilst in Canada in '94, and was struck by their faith, rather than the manner of their conversion. I must be the only person more interested in the groundhog than the Jesuits there....

Down in Yonder forest is beautiful, another one I'd not heard before until Thursday, when I bought a CD 'A Garland of Carols' by Coope, Boyes and Simpson. Very haunting, very simple to learn and very definately not of Christian origin!!!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Will Bakker
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 12:56 PM

There's a really nice swinging folky song of which I only know some lines. I don't remember the singers name either. In some weeks time I will know because this song is often played at the radio in Holland round Christmas. The lines I remember: "well they came from the east and they came from the west and decided to follow that star" "The more you gonna give the more you gonna get to be a woman or a gentleman" (Doesn't make sense, must be slightly different)


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 01:28 PM

My Christmas favorite is CHRISTMAS IN THE TRENCHES by John McCutcheon, HERE.

For those with a different bent there is Tom Paxton's A Box of Candy and a Piece of Fruit. Then there is Merry Christmas in the Family by a semi-obscure Southern singer (I forget his name and I'm at work).

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: PattyG
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 03:10 PM

Still my all time favorite: Star of the East


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Terry Allan Hall
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 03:51 PM

Here's a few "mutated" Xmas songs: (Just fixed the previous formatting prob...I hope!)

Jimbob, the Red-neck Reindeer (a tacky little ditty my daughter and I made up a few years ago...you know the chords, I'd bet...)

JimBob, the Red-neck Reindeer
Had a piss-poor attitude
Stood around scratching his cojones
And acting in a manner rude

JimBob, he liked his Lone Star,
He liked honky-tonk from dust to dawn
He liked to dance to the "Cotton-eyed Joe"
And hurl his guts on Santa's lawn

Then one fuzzy Christmas day,
Rudolf came to say
"JimBob, you're just Cowtown trash!"
And JimBob knocked him on his "heiney"

Then all the other reindeer
Were afraid they'd get what Rudolf got

So, JimBob the Red-neck Reindeer

Is still the toughest buck on Santa's lot!

and then...

I'm Gonna Wear A Santa Suit This X-mas (from the album "Twisted Christmas, Vol. 1)


I'm As soon as I can (A7)get out on pa(D)role
I'll (E)hang around your street
Your (A)kids I'd love to(F#) meet
As (B7)soon as I can get out of this (E)hole
And (A)I don't mind (E)slidin' down your (A)chimney
'Cause I just spent 15 (A7)years unloading (D)coal
I'm gonna wear a (D7)Santa suit this (A)Christmas(F#)
As (B7)soon as I can (E)get on pa(A)role

I'm anxious to be out among the living
And I've made a list of folks I plan to see
Duded up in red and white
Instead of these old stripes
Can you imagine how surprised they're gonna be?
I know the home town folks'll be glad to see me
'Cause by now it's slipped their mind how much I stole
I'm gonna...

I'm careful to be on my best behavior
'Cause the warden watches everything I do
I'm so glad he didn't see
That fight in cell block 3
Or I'd here until I'm 92
Just a few more questions from that nice commitee
And through those rusty gates I'll proudly stroll I'm gonna...

Kinda get's ya in that "holiday spirit", huh? ;-)

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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Terry Allan Hall
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 03:54 PM

That "obscure Southern Singer" is none other than fellow Texan Robert Earl Keen...check out "West Textures".


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Susan A-R
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 04:14 PM

There is a book of West Gallery Stuff called the Mellstock Carols, available through the Serpent Press. Anyone got an address for this outfit? There doesn't seem to be one on the book.

Also, check outthe work John Roberts and Tony Barrand have done with Noell Sing We Clear (I never spell this right, but I believe there's material on Sandy Paton's Folk Legacy Website about them)

Masters in this Hall is a good 'un, as is Lo How a Rose. I also have done an interesting pairing with I saw Three Ships and Bring a Torch. The tunes work well together.


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: enelrad
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 04:52 PM

some more....The Cherry Tree Carol.......or all the song on the Bony M Christmas album..esp. Mary's Boy Child...also, the West Indian carol Virgin Mary Had a Baby Boy.......and the Echo Carol ( While By My Sheep)


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Mbo
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 05:02 PM

Ooh, "Une Flambeau, Jeanette, Isabelle" is also fun to play.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Peter T.
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 05:46 PM

I tried a whole lot of French carols last year, and they were fine (Naxos has a couple of Quebec choir albums of Quebecois and French carols that are quite good). They are worth exploring. If I could find a good Spanish selection for this year, I would be thrilled. Anyone?
Going back a bit, Joni Mitchell's version of "Urge for Going" is on her recent "Hits" Collection (complementing her "Misses" compilation. I always like "River" as a Christmas song.


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Sam Hudson
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 06:19 PM

Surprised that nobody's mentioned Stan Rogers' 'First Christmas'. Or how about Alan Hull's 'Winter Song'? Nancy and I have also regaled the club with 'Tomorrow Shall Be My Dancing Day' and 'Gaudete' every year for the past seven or eight...


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Mbo
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 06:25 PM

I always like to thing that "10,000 Miles" by the Pretenders is a Christmas song. It also works well in the folk idiom.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Stewie
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 06:33 PM

Keen's 'Merry Christmas from the Family' is not on 'West Textures' but on 'Gringo Honeymoon'.

Of the more modern Christmas songs, I like the Red Clay Ramblers' 'Hot Buttered Rum', written and performed by their banjo picker Tommy Thompson. The Texas dance band, Brave Combo, have an excellent CD, originally recorded in Japan and now on Rounder, called 'It's Christmas, Man'.


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Mary
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 07:56 PM

I love the one that goes "you're my sweet maple sugar honey hot buttered rum.." Don't know the name or the author but it is fairly new. I also love Mary of the Wild Moor this time of year. and if you really want to, you can sing O Little Town to the House of the Rising Sun...

mg


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Stewie
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 08:55 PM

Mary, that is the Red Clay Ramblers song I mentioned.


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: SeanM
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 09:37 PM

First off, let me preface by saying that Christmas is the least favorite of the many holidays for me. Far too many years spent in the commercial suburban hell of Southern California listening to my stepmother listening to the Motown Holiday album OVER AND OVER AND OVER again...

That out of the way, my personal favorites have always lent themselves to weird trends.

A few of my friends do a Dickensian "Saloon Girl" bawdy show that includes a devastatingly obscene and hilarious "Twelve Days of Christmas"... I'm also rather fond of "Fairytale of New York", if only 'cause it's one of the least holiday oriented songs I know...

But for real fun, a few friends and myself got together one year down on Balboa Pier in Newport Beach and did acapella carols to the tune of Beatles songs... it was a number of years ago, and before we'd go we would each have 5-6 beers, so the memories are hazy... I just remember having a blast before a large (and hopefully amused) crowd...

Sorry for the pointless meanderings, but this seemed like the place...

M


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: emily rain
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 09:52 PM

mary, our local folk jam is going to hear "o little town of the rising sun" if it's the last thing i do. all abbreviations aside, i am laughing my gawd damn ass off.

my favorite christmas songs are the originals from the john denver and the muppets christmas together album. don't laugh! they're beautiful and tender: "when the river meets the sea", "the peace carol", "it's in every one of us", etc. i also like lots of those obscure ones from the oxford book of carols, like "all in the morning". my favorite instrumental hands down is "st. basil's hymn". sounds absolutely otherworldly on harp or hammered dulcimer.


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Ana
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 01:10 AM

Whoa ...and what a hoot...Ha! You guys (meaning any gender) have come up with some gems. What fun,to cast the net and to pull out such plentitude.

But - you poor dears having to sing songs which connect to the cold bleak clime almost upon you (gloating). I guess that's how the euphemism of "Xmas Cheer" (aka spirit as in alcohol) has come about.

It's interesting how the Northern Hemisphere/European end of year Xmas has tailored and formed so many of our traditional Western songs.

Meantime - down in the deepest lightest furtherest south (NZ actually) the sun is just thinking about setting. The birds are tweeting wonderfully - no doubt discussing matters of great intellectual depth with their fledglings. The leaves/flowers are sprouting wonderfully - the spirit of new life is everwhere.

Now where did I put that bottle of cider. Ana


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Micca
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 05:39 AM

Ana, any place that has the seasons back to front and a parrott who has forgotten how to fly(the Kakapo) and still produces very good wine and an excellent Single Malt Whisky (the name escapes me) it was wonderful!! Must rate 11 on a scale of weirdnness out of 10. Oh and be warned Liz the Squeaks sister and her Mum live in Auckland, I dont think they sing, well certainly not as good as Liz but they do laugh, and Liz's laugh contravenes at least 3 sections of the Geneva Convention. Speaking of weirdness if your sense of humour works and you have a scientific bent(optional) try Nick Kim's site here http://members.xoom.com/bacchanalia/ (I can't do blue clicky things yet)


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 08:28 AM

Ah, but Ana, your delightful next door neighbours have that eternal son of Croydon, UK, Rolf Harris and his 'Six White Boomers', that is one reason why all Christmas songs are winter and northern hemisphere orientated!!!!

And I don't really think that singing 'you're a cheap, lousy faggot' would go down to well in our church.... although the Carol of New York is one of my favourites too (just for that line).

O little Town of rising sun has got to me now, and I will probably squirrel it all afternoon whilst on the treadmill and cycle machine.... On the same line, there is an Easter hymn, 'There is a green hill far away', which goes even better, with the addition of 'he died to save us all he died to save us all for he's a jolly good fellow......

LTS


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: patty@@in-motion.net
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 10:14 AM

(Emily wrote) My favorite christmas songs are the originals from the john denver and the muppets christmas together album. don't laugh! they're beautiful and tender: "when the river meets the sea", "the peace carol", "it's in every one of us", etc.

//HOW could I have forgotten?! Yes, indeed, these songs are gorgeous! SO peaceful (but then, it doesn't seem that everyone desires that! )

Had to laugh at SeanM's recollection of hearing Motown C-mas music "over and over again!" I reckon' my kids would have similar sentiments, but it would be about the Ruth Lyons and Doris Day Christmas albums! There is usually a collective g-r-o-a-n when I get out my holiday music!! I'm trying to move on to some CD's with piano, harp, and oboe renditions, but I sure do love my old timers!


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: MMario
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 10:21 AM

we have long had a standing rule in our household (and in my parents before that) Christmas music is verboten until the day after Thanksgiving, and stops after January 6th. If it comes on the radio or tv, that goes off. And during "the season" - no album or tape can be replayed until at least two others have played....


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Rex
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 10:43 AM

Mbo mentioned Jeanette Isabelle, yep that's one of my favourites. Also Pat-a-pan. And there's a soft place in my head, um, heart (yeah that's it) for the Friendly Beasts.

Rex


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: sophocleese
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 10:46 AM

Some good rules there MMario. My kids are itching to get decorations up and I'm holding out until the beginning of December. Last year after a month of daily disputes with my son I took everything out to hang on walls etc. and said "Okay lets get this place decorated!" My son looked completely surprised and made it clear that he was expecting ME to do it all. He discovered that that wasn't the deal at all. I still shudder over aspects of an August trip out to New Brunswick a few years ago when the kids favourite song was Jingle Bells. Scary!!


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Barbara
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 12:39 PM

If you want a parody, try The Day That Santa Died.
"Down In Yon Forest" is in the Oxford Book of Carols, as is Tomorrow Shall Be My Dancing Day; there's a wonderful arrangement of Good Christian Men in the OBC. I like the minor melody carol in the Quaker hymn book, to the effect of "She's black and she's white and Muslim and Hindu and Jew, he's (I forget)... and, oh yes, the Christ Child is you".
Other ones I haven't tired of yet: Christ Child Lullabye, more later.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Blackcat2
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 01:31 PM

Anyone with a bass voice (or close to it) should have "Mr. Grinch" in their mix - I always get a big hand for it - from both kids and adults. Nostalga is a questionable source for me usually, but the song is so cool.


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Marion
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 03:55 PM

Liz the Squeak: I will put words to the Huron Carol in another thread. Don't you like the standard tune to Adeste Fideles? It's one of my favourite carols.

Ana: If you want unorthodox Christmas songs, try the Arrogant Worms (a musical comedy trio from Kingston, Ontario). They have a whole CD of cynical/humorous Christmas songs; I haven't heard that CD, but I've heard good reviews of their Christmas concert, and I love the sense of humour exhibited in their other CDs.

General: I love "The Friendly Beasts" (words and chords in Rise Up Singing). There is a legend that on every Christmas Eve, farm animals are able to speak and they pass the story on to each other about the birth of Christ. This song is about that.

Marion


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Micca
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 05:28 PM

Marion, I have a little funny ebout Adeste Fidelis,Altho' now Pagan I grew up Catholic in Ireland and sang in a church choir as a boy soprano(Shut up Liz I can hear you squeak/laughing from here) I therefore learned it in Latin and subsequently never learned it in English. One Christmas I was staying with the very posh family of my then girlfriend and their family custom was church on Christmas day. So there am I, a card carrying Pagan( well when in Rome, politeness costs nothing)in a very High Protestant church built around 1200. Everyone stands and starts singing "Oh come all ye faithful"except for "yours Truly" who, for the first time in 400 years, regales the congregation with "Adeste fidelis laete triumphantes" everyone turned and stared, and being very English it was never mentioned by the family again. The vicar invited me for a drink later but thats a different story.


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Penny S.
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 05:36 PM

I keep trying to get the school to sing "While Shepherds Watched" to Ilkley Moor, which it was once sung to. So far no good. Is there any book of the carols sung in pubs in (is it) Derbyshire, where they fled when the bands were kicked out of the churches? I heard some on the radio once, but have never seen any of them anywhere.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: emily rain
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 07:54 PM

tom lehrer's "CHRISTMAS TIME"


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Micca
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 08:04 PM

Penny I think Liz the Squeak's SO has a tape of them if she doesn't pick this up herself I will prompt her.She might do you a copy. Chocolate or offers of chocolate seems to work,


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Hummingbird
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 08:11 PM

My personal favorite is Ambrose the Amber A- -'d Antelope.

Hummer.


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Barbara
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 08:16 PM

I happen to have in my hands here a catalog from Legacy Books with 15 or so tapes and CDs made by Ian Russell of the Christmas Songs of Yorkshire, different pubs each time. It's my understanding that Russell goes to a different pub each year and records the local village songs, and then puts them out on a tape/CD. So each year there's one more.
I'm in the process of learning one called the Christmas Tree, and when we get past dress rehearsal week, (this week) for Peter Pan, I will post it for you.

I heard about the village carols on public radio, myself, and here's the message I got back yesterday from the woman who distributes the tapes, sheet music and CDs in this country. (US).

"Dear Barbara
I printed out your E-Mail request for a Village Carols catalog, knew I had to send one, so I printed an envelope with your name and address, then couldn't find the printout. I sent both a copy of the Village Carols, plus a copy oof the "latest" Come-All-Ye, our book review (quarterly). An enclosed note explains that I sold both Legacy Books and Come-All-Ye (and it's been like pulling teeth to get any action from them) but they did not take over selling The Village Carols Series, so I still have a good stock on them at this point. There was a new one this year. It's all in the envelope that I sent out yesterday. It will take a week to get out to Oregon.
I still have to use the Legacybks@aol.com because I'm still selling books until I can find someone to take it over. I was 80 years old this year and I'm beginning to creak with arthritis.
Lillian Krelove
Legacy Books


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Barbara
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 08:21 PM

And here's a very different and powerful wassail song: Homeless Wassail.
Can anyone postthe words to the New York City Carol?
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 08:30 PM

If it's real village carols you want, Ian Russell is your man:

http://www.sgpublishing.co.uk/gm/vc/vcabout.html

There are CDs and books and all. And if anyone in the Cattrap was at Sidmouth this year for Christmas in August in the pub, with Ian Russell in his glory wasn't it great. "Cracking" in fact.

At a humbler level, I've a song I wrote myself which I like to sing around Christmas:

http://www.macgrath.freeserve.co.uk/Songlists/man%20with%20a%20mandolin.htm#Paper chains

(Sorry not to put inthe blue clicky thing, but I can't find the bit of paper I wrote out with the instructions, and if I don't use that, it always goes wrong)


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 11:18 PM

I've no idea what my SO is, and probably wouldn't understand it anyway....

As regards to the Ilkley Moor, I have no idea where it is published as a hymn tune - which it was originally written as, the Yorkshire song came much later - but you should be able to find it in books of traditional English folk song, campsite songs, that sort of thing or try a tune site. It appears to be one of those songs you learn by osmosis - no one every actually writes it down or goes out with the actual intention of learning it, you just seem to magically know it when it get sung on bus journeys or at camp..... There must be thousands of songs out there that people never actually read to learn, or only know the first verse and a half to... Oh no, what have I started now!!!!!

However, if you really want, I can sing it down the phone to an answerphone near you, or send a cassette if you are really desperate, let me know on liz_the_squeak@ukgateway.net and we can negotiate the chocolate later...

LTS


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Subject: RE: Dusting off Xmas repertoire
From: merri@ozemail.com.au
Date: 16 Nov 99 - 01:12 AM

I've always liked "Three Kings from Persian Lands Afar". It can be sung straight or with a choral behind it (usually one about King David or something). I think this is in the Oxford Book of Carols. I also like "Orana" by James somebody (being Aussie). Orana is an aboriginal word meaning "welcome" (don't know which dialect). This should be readily available as everyone sang it when I was at school (oh no, a while ago now!). Anyway, I have a collection of "alternative" carols, some of which I've heard other places and some of which I wrote myself in desperation... there are lots to "We Three Kings", "While Shepherds Watched", "Twelve Days of Christmas" and I even know one to Jingle Bells. I do like the alternative tune to O Little Town that Cliff Richard and Amy Grant have both done - I don't know what the tune's called but some of you may have heard it. (Don't shoot me!) About the only "commercial" song I've ever acquired a fondness for is Blue Christmas...


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