BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!

Subject: RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 Feb 11 - 06:17 PM

Anyway, going twice:

"As to the title of this thread: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!

OK. What were they and where are they."

Subject: RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Feb 11 - 06:31 PM

I'm not too sure exactly what it is you said, GfinS, but it was entertainin' what ever it was...

Yo, T... You don't recall Donnie Rumsfeld going to visit Saddam after the Iraqi-Iranian War and taking him gifts for all the help he'd been fir bein' a good little dictator for US???

Maybe you'd like to furnish us with the list of military hardware that the US supplied Saddam with during that war??? I mean, you don't have to remember it all seein' as you got early half-heimerzs... I mean, you can Google it up... That ain't cheatin', 'er nuthin'... Maybe y6ou come back and share the list of weaponry with us...

But please don't come back with more denials and smoke 'n mirrors... I mean, I understand why you want to rewrite the entire last 8 years... I would, too, had I been on the wrong side of history but I was on the correct side of history...

Guess what, T... Ya' give??? Had the US not wasted a trillion $$$$, trashed its international reputation with the invasion of Iraq, not killed 3000+ of our brothers and sisters. maimed another 40,000 and killed upwards of a 1,000,000 Iraqis then tonight we'd be watchin' Saddam being overthrown...

See... You were on the wrong side of history... I tried to tell ya' but yer head is like granite...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Feb 11 - 06:43 PM

Bobert: "I'm not too sure exactly what it is you said, GfinS, but it was entertainin' what ever it was..."

You just demonstrated 'avoidance' and 'deflection'....next mechanism would be, 'denial'.

I'm willing to wager, that you more than likely have drinking issues, as well, in which you would be well acquainted with "transference", which then goes to 'co-dependency', where you probably tend to deal with other people's problems, to avoid dealing with your own.

Now watch, you'll 'deflect' again, playing the ignorant, simple hillbilly......and of course, none of what I posted will conveniently not make sense to you.

Gotcha twice!

Wink!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Feb 11 - 11:40 PM

Sorry, 'Guest 999'....We SHOULD go back to the thread topic, but this time I had a chance to bust Bobert, in a nice way, so maybe he might re-examine the 'whys' and 'whats' he postulates on. Perhaps, he may even be open to, at least, another side of honest reasoning..possibly yours.

Wink,

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
From: Teribus
Date: 23 Feb 11 - 12:33 AM

Pssst Bobert Donald Rumsfeld only met Saddam Hussein ONCE and that was on 20th December 1983, right in the middle of the Iran/Iraq War. That meeting lasted for 90 minutes and weapons were not discussed let alone offered or requested - All of that is a simple matter of record.

A list of weapons supplied to Saddam Hussein's regime by the USA is not only very short it is non-existant. The USA did not supply weapons to Iraq although it did, along with Israel supply Iran.

"Bear Spares" were a means of US allies (Israel & Egypt) getting rid of ex-Soviet/Warsaw Pact arms which were then replaced by equipment from the USA.

If all those supposed arms were to ensure that Iraq "WON" the war then the US did not do too good a job did it? - NOBODY won the Iran/Iraq War and that was precisely the result that the USA and the rest of the world wanted.

To answer Guest999's question I would refer you to "beardedbruce's" contributions. As to Iraq and Uranium Yellow Cake in March 2003 it held in storage 500 tons of the stuff, 384 Rocket Motors were discovered and proscribed development of missiles was established, just as British intelligence said it would based on photographic interpretation.

Subject: RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
From: Teribus
Date: 23 Feb 11 - 12:51 AM

Stringsinger:

"There was never anything to fear from Saddam."

The US Administrations of Bill Clinton and George W Bush did not agree with your reading of the situation - Clinton half-heartedly tried to address the problem after having identified it, George W Bush put the matter beyond all doubt and in doing so uncovered three "secret" nuclear weapons programmes and shut down a highly dangerous and illegal nuclear weapons proliferation network.

"If there were any usable materials in Iraq that could have fashioned WMD's, they were supplied by Bush Senior and the U.S. military so Saddam could win against Iran."

Nope "dual use" items were purchased from a whole host of countries through front companies and third parties. As stated previously Iraq did not win the war.

"Any attempt to manufacture a yellow cake of WMD's in Iraq
is risible."

Whole-heartedly agree with that. Iraq does not, nor ever has, manufactured yellow cake, they have always imported it. Looking at it logically the quantities of ore that you would have to transport to manufacture uranium yellow cake would be enormous - The yellow cake Stringsinger is made where the ore is mined.

Subject: RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
From: Teribus
Date: 23 Feb 11 - 12:54 AM

Guest999 go to the opening posts of this thread for some detail relating to WMD's actually found - Saddam remember had said that they had all been destroyed, many times.

Subject: RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Feb 11 - 01:39 AM

: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!......The U.S. Military!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Feb 11 - 08:56 AM

Can't argue with that, Gfs-er...

Subject: RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Feb 11 - 04:19 PM

I must be doing some good, eh?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Feb 11 - 06:23 PM

I wouldn't go that far...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
From: Teribus
Date: 24 Feb 11 - 12:40 AM

"please don't come back with more denials and smoke 'n mirrors... I mean, I understand why you want to rewrite the entire last 8 years... I would, too, had I been on the wrong side of history but I was on the correct side of history..."

Only thing is Bobert it is you who have rewritten history isn't it?

Examples:

1. The famous "Gold Plated" M-16 that Rumsfeld was supposed to have given Saddam - But didn't

2. The chemical and biological weapons that Rumsfeld was supposed to have given Saddam - But didn't

3. The meeting between Rumsfeld and Saddam after the end of the Iran-Iraq War where these weapon sales were arranged and agreed - But no such meeting ever took place

Inconveniently for Bobert I can substantiate and verify my version of history, which is a damn sight more than he can do for his.