New DigiTrad: Official Announcement

Subject: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 12:36 PM

The long-awaited new edition of The Digital Tradition (about 9000 lyrics, about 4500 tunes) is now available on CD. It's been sent to those responsible for putting it on the site, so that will likely occur in the near future.

The CD supports Windows, DOS and Macintosh. If you order it from me (Digital Tradition, 29 Powell Street, Greenwich CT 06831 US), it costs five bucks--that covers the CD, label, package, postage and gas to get to the Post office, with a bit left over for things like ink and equipment maintenance.

If you have a copy, please feel free to copy it for friends.

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Thread #51468   Message #784711
Posted By: Pene Azul
15-Sep-02 - 07:52 PM
Thread Name: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

MS-DOS version: DTSpring2002MSDOS.zip (7.32 Mb)

Windows Version: DTSpring2002Windows.zip (7.78 Mb)

The Mac version should be available online within the next week or so.

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Spring 2002 DigiTrad MS-DOS Installation

Create a folder where you'll run the MS-DOS Digitrad, and unzip it into that folder.

To start the program, run the file: F.bat

For more information, run the file: readme.bat

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Spring 2002 DigiTrad Windows Installation

Create a folder where you'll run the Windows Digitrad, and unzip it (preserving the folder structure) into that folder.

To start the program, run the file: The Digital Tradition.exe

For more information, see the file: readme.txt

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Thread #51468   Message #787611
Posted By: Pene Azul
19-Sep-02 - 02:41 PM
Thread Name: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

Thanks to Amos, who prepared them for download, here are the Macintosh versions. They, like the Windows version, were written by Mark Heiman.

Macintosh OSX version: macintoshdigitrad_x.sit (7.02 Mb)

Macintosh OS 7.0 to 9.2 version: digitrad_mac.sea (6.69 Mb)

See this file for Macintosh installation instructions: mac_read_me_first.txt

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: MMario
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 12:42 PM

yeee-haW!

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: MudGuard
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 12:44 PM

Dick, I already have the Windows-Version (don't ask me wherefrom...), it is great!

Thanks to all the people who worked on it!

MudGuard

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Tinker
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 12:47 PM

Great news, any chnce there might be a few at Getaway???

Tinker

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 01:13 PM

Tinker- I'll try. I seem to have double-booked myself: I'll be on a database forum at the American Folkore Society on that Saturday, and I'll be driving (7 hrs!)to the Getaway on Saturday night. It's possible that I'll be less than well-organized.

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 01:27 PM

H A L L E L U J A H !!!

Three cheers for Mr. Greenhouse and Susan

Hip Hip Hooray!

Hip Hip Hooray!!

Hip Hip Hooray!!!

Jolly good show - ol' chaps - splendidly done!!

Sincerely, and with the greatest admiration,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 03:10 PM

Address? Or send to Mudcat cafe?

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Art Thieme
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 03:22 PM

I gheartily second Garg's e-motion !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: MMario
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 03:30 PM

address is in the first post of this thread.

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 03:45 PM

Will there be a UK distributor?

Would make a lot more sense than trans-atlantic postage, currency conversions etc.

Jim

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 04:25 PM

Jim- TRy sending Bill Sables a PM. He has a copy, and has distributed copies in the past. In Scotland, you might try BBob Blair.

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Tinker
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 04:46 PM

Dick, Will be glad just to see you. I'll try to send off a request and a check soon....

Tinker

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: artbrooks
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 05:03 PM

Dick, do you PayPal, or would you prefer a more solid form of payment?

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: bigchuck
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 05:16 PM

Dick, will you have copies available at NOMAD?
Sandy

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Jim Krause
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 05:29 PM

Hey, this looks really good. Might have to get one. (After all the hurrah, I thought a bit of understatement might be in order. Typical of us Midwesterners, you know.)
Jim

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Peter T.
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 06:08 PM

Congratulations, Digitrad. You remain one of the few reasons for using the Internet. yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 06:25 PM

When will the 2002 version be on line?

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 06:46 PM

Don't get greedy, Dave! :-)

Bill Sables, will there be any copies available at the Groningen Mudgathering? (If I can wait that long!)

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 07:19 PM

Susanne,

I don't think that Dave is being greedy.

Some sort of online distribution would make a lot of sense.

Unfortunately, Max seems content to take money, promise lots, but deliver nothing.

Don't hold your breath...

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Pene Azul
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 07:52 PM

MS-DOS version: DTSpring2002MSDOS.zip (7.32 Mb)

Windows Version: DTSpring2002Windows.zip (7.78 Mb)

The Mac version should be available online within the next week or so.

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Spring 2002 DigiTrad MS-DOS Installation

Create a folder where you'll run the MS-DOS Digitrad, and unzip it into that folder.

To start the program, run the file: F.bat

For more information, run the file: readme.bat

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Spring 2002 DigiTrad Windows Installation

Create a folder where you'll run the Windows Digitrad, and unzip it (preserving the folder structure) into that folder.

To start the program, run the file: The Digital Tradition.exe

For more information, see the file: readme.txt

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 08:04 PM

I calculate that the other guest had to NOT hold his breath for 33 minutes, give or take a couple of seconds. Though I likely won't be using it, thank you anyway for those who might forget to say so.

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 10:15 PM

got it!...thanks Dick and Susan and Pene and whomever...*smile*...

(wonder where 'GUEST' was when it was posted several times the Max had no control over the Digitrad...that it was other problems that slowed down the new version?)

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 11:41 PM

it works! it works, it works!!!...It is wonderful...It plays tunes and shows the sheet music...and transposes...and gives you choice of instruent in the midi!....and allows you to change the speed!......

and...has LOTS of new songs!.....and.....Rita says "We love it, Dick & everyone who did this!"

...........wow........

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 11:57 PM

Wonderful!!! Thanks so much, Dick, Susan, Pene and everyone else who worked on it!

kat

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 06:22 AM

Just downloaded a copy - looks great! Many thanks.

Regards

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: bill\sables
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 07:43 AM

I should have copies at any gathering I attend in Europe and the UK. I will also send copies to anyone who wants them. Cheers Bill

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 10:11 AM

WOW! The FORMAT! WOW!!!!!

I wouldn't care if it had FEWER songs, it's so USABLE!

~Susan

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Giac
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 11:25 AM

Well! I'm speechless, this is great! Thanks. Seems such a small word in gratitude for so much work. If someone would just bring food for me and the dogs, and walk the dogs, I'd not have to leave this computer for days, or weeks, or ...

Mary

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Fortunato
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 12:15 PM

Excellent work. Kudos. Chance

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Trevor
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 12:18 PM

Just downloaded - brilliant - thanks Dick.

If anybody wants a CD-R copy please let me know - and whatever you do, don't pay £20.00 for one like somebody I know did at a festival last year.

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 12:24 PM

just a word folks--this new format will make it MUCH easier to find places where you say.."..but that's not the way I heard it!...The tune is 'different' and the words are not what I remember...and he left out a verse." etc....

Remember...this is a volunteer effort and it is (mostly) folk music. There will surely be songs you'd rather were edited differently....but this is an on-going process which, by it's nature will never be finished, nor satisfy everyone.

I just saw two songs with what I am sure are errors in the lyrics, but I can deal with it by asking questions, doing searches....and...by simply using the folk process and singing it the way I want!..Same with tunes....

No one...least of all Dick...ever claimed that this database it intended to be definitive and etched in stone...it is a resource, like the books and records you have (even like "Rise Up Singing" *grin*)....

I am reminded of the story of the guy who claimed to have a talking dog.

"What is the outside of a tree called" says man to dog.

"Bark, bark"

"And what is the top of a house?" ..."roof, roof"

"Hey!" says his friend, "who are you kidding? Those are set-up answers! You can't fool me!"

"Well, it's a start", says the owner,"...and it's just a wonder the dog talks at all!"

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 12:25 PM

I never registered as a vendor with PayPal. If checks (or cheques) are a problem, you can also order a copy from CAMSCO Music (same price.) CAMSCO takes credit cards.

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Genie
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 12:52 PM

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Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 02:57 PM

will the DT on the Mudcat site not be automatically converted to 2002 version? if not why not? if so how long?

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 03:08 PM

Mr. Kennedy- Nothing is automatic. See earlier posting.

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Jon Bartlett
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 04:11 PM

Grateful thanks and heartiest congratulations to all concerned. Can someone help me with 2 points? 1) If we come across errors (typing, ascriptions, mondegreens, etc.), who should we talk to? Maybe a thread for these things that those who can correct them could work down? 2) when I open the Windows version and click a song in bold (i.e. with tune) I get a box that says "Unhandled exception: c000008e At address 0052b266" and an OK button. When I hit the OK button I get the standard "Illegal operation - shutdown" message. I've rebooted but the problem stays the same. Is this my inferior computer, or a bad download, or...? Help, please! And onec again, thanks for the excellent update! - Jon Bartlett

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: skarpi
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 04:44 PM

Halló all, how am i gonna get one of those? Where do I send the "five" bucks..... dollars bill?. damm it´s so hard sometimes to be so farawy from you all. This is great . All the best Skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: artbrooks
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 04:50 PM

Jon Bartlett, with the required *BG*, I'd say its something specific to your machine...at least, I can open those files without any trouble.

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 06:41 PM

Just downloaded it and it is great! Thanks! Skarpi, you can download it!

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 07:50 PM

My Gosh!

To Dick, Susan and everyone remotely involved in this project. INCREDIBURGABLE!

This is a great tool! Thanks a bunch!

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Lanfranc
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 06:04 AM

How on earth do you put a value on this?

I've downloaded it, but feel guilty that I effectively got it free!

Thank you, Dick, Susan and all concerned.

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 06:15 AM

Nice work guys. Thank you. Special thank you to the Blue One. You always come through.
Mary

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 07:12 AM

That cd I bought had loads of other wonderful gismoes on it but I'd have to have paid another £30.00 to get code numbers to access them. Yes I was well and truely ripped off!

Mrs (muggins) Lemon

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 07:33 AM

Mrs. Lemon,

I don't understand your post. Can you explain, please?

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 10:35 AM

It's explained a bit more elsewhere. Somebody sold Mrs. Lemon a CD of the Digital Tradition, which is available for free download. The CD also included other programs, but those programs wouldn't operate unless she paid a fee for a key code to unlock the programs.
If you produce a copy of the Digital Tradition for somebody, it's OK to ask for something to defray your reproduction cost, but it ain't fair to sell a free program.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Amos
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 10:36 AM

This is a TERRIFIC product. Well done to all who must have worked long and hard to make it fly. The OSX version worls great!

A

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 10:55 AM

Well it certainly looks good. I can't get the tunes to play on my PC here at work, but will try it at home.

Congratulations Dick, Sue, and Mark

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 11:01 AM

Please bear with my ignorance and help me.

I downloaded the Windows version, and there it sits on my desktop. But what now?

I specified the DTSpring2002.zip, and the computer wants to know what program to use to open it. What do I tell it?

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: MudGuard
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 11:04 AM

Unzip it.
If you don't have Winzip, get a test version from http://www.winzip.com/ (and buy it if you like it).

After you unzipped the zip file, you will find
"The Digital Tradition.exe"

Start it and enjoy!

Subject: RE: New DigiTrad: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
From: MMario
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 11:11 AM

yes - it really does look nice! I downloaded both the dos and windows versions - dos version working great - windows everything working except sound. (probably a quicktime issue=)

one little problem - every time I open the iwndows version I have to point it to the song index. is there a way around that?