Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: pattyClink Date: 11 Nov 24 - 01:05 PM I have been invited to a gathering on the Sunday after Thanksgiving. Hostess spent 30 minutes lecturing about gluten etc, so I guess I will have to give that kind of baking a whirl, and will have to do a dry run to see if it works. She mentioned having success with einkorn flour, which is apparently still wheat but low-gluten enough it doesn't bother them. I've used spelt in the past and liked it, but not einkorn. For gravy, we always used cornstarch ,which is gluten free. You may know the caution about always mixing it with a little ice water, then slowly drizzling in the slurry to your hot liquid, stirring constantly til it thickens. I know it's carby but just thought I should mention it. |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Charmion Date: 11 Nov 24 - 01:50 PM The other thing about foods thickened with cornstarch is that they don't keep. Within a certain amount of time (don't remember how much, but less than 48 hours), they tend to separate and "weep". Tapioca (not the pearl kind) and arrowroot are effective thickeners that are also, coincidentally, gluten-free. Pan gravy -- the reduced but otherwise unthickened juices from the roasting pan -- is also nice, and safe for your celiac friends. Me, I don't think it fair to invite people to dinner, require them to bring a dish, and then lecture them at length about dietary restrictions. The host is responsible for ensuring that every guest will eat well, and if that means farming out only the un-challenging parts of the menu, or providing both conventional and adapted versions of particular favourites, then so be it. Speaking as one who does her best to avoid sugar ... ! |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Nov 24 - 06:22 PM I saw my daughter today between the various scheduled meetings and appointments (I took over my 25 drawer cabinet of embroidery floss for her to pick through) and we discussed Thanksgiving. I'm making changes to my diet, but I will still have some of the traditional things they expect - mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes, but I'll also see about that Cranberry duff as an addition to the fare. Meat and poultry. Slow-carb vegetables. She understands (has been hearing about this for several months) so we're good. Now to find a date. Thanks for naming some of the possible thickening agents for gravy. Cornstarch does have its limitations. I could keep a container of the drippings in the fridge and make fresh gravy each time I need it if I went that way. Meanwhile, this morning Dorothy wrote: A week with my wonderful #2 son (61) has been all manner of gifts. The bottom line is that we (R, Taun and myself) are all realizing, and supportive of each other, that there is only one way out of this. I am sadly ready and hope to get off the world peacefully in the not too distant future: weeks? months? I am verklempt. Dorothy, I love you. If you need and can get palliative care it frequently extends life. You can continue chemo (if it isn't too nasty) during that time. Being comfortable is good for you, and I'm glad you had time with your son to really talk about it. My heart is still broken to know your cancer that took so long to get diagnosed and you're having to make these decisions now. Give our love to Robin - he's going to need it to sort out everything you two have built. I'd love to buy a cup or plate or bowl or whatever you have made that is around for sale if someone could ship it. Your work is gorgeous. ❤ ❤ (lets see if either of those gets through). |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Dorothy Parshall Date: 11 Nov 24 - 08:28 PM Dupont: Having eaten everything in sight - more or less, I am feeling some better. I thought of some writing I had done on wordpress about 10 years ago and managed to find it, copy it and move it into docs so I can dispense with wordpress, where I have done nothing since then. But I read it all and was impressed by my writing! I was far better back then - when I was writing regularly? Over the last week I have been struggling, at times, with a loss of words - not remembering and having to describe what I wanted to catch the word. This malaise of the last couple weeks has been deep. I blame the Ibrance and stopped taking it. It has been over a week 'til I am, tonight, feeling better and hopeful that it has passed. There were days when I could hardly eat anything - chicken broth and a slice of bread. Sunday/yesterday, I woke up barely breathing. We were still in bed and R felt it also - I really was barely breathing. He finally got up and went downstairs to talk to my son. I am very pragmatic about the fact that this cancer will surely kill me and would prefer not to be waiting around, also want nothing to cause me to end up being tortured in a hospital when we know nothing will help. I can feel the cancer gremlins nibbling on me, sometimes nipping me and mini pains are here and there, now and then. By 10 pm, I had spent hours talking family history with Taun and we typed out a new, more tidy "will" and Taun - with his B Engineering in computerated automation - where's your printer? Well, there are two that stopped functioning and the one I bought in February (the day before my life stopped being reasonable) was still in the box, which was - still is - being used as an extra counter in the bathroom. In a few minutes it was functioning and Taun astounded R by hitting a button on the computer downstairs and informing R it was printing - upstairs! Now I have two dead printers to get rid off - declutter!!- and one functional, and no inclination to print anything. We have a will! to put in a safe place with my body donor card. The box is still in place for the "counter". Magic Taun had somehow extricated the computer without moving the box. And he went to Philly today instead of yesterday. With his 3 dozen two day old bagels. No fuss - he just did what he felt needed to be done for us old folks. WOW! He says he is coming back in a couple weeks with my #1 grandson -27 or so. Doubting I will make the wedding on 1 June. One of the high points of our "family" conversations: looking on google at the neighbourhood in which I grew up, I told him that his grandfather and friends had built the house (about 1940) --- "Every time I drive on that road, a house my grandfather designed and built is just over there!" Now if I can just find the floor plan - in pencil on graph paper. It is not where I was sure it was so some searching must happen. That would be treasured by Taun as it has been by me. The house does not look as nice as it did. My grandparents nice home is beautiful. And grandfather Quantin's has been nicely improved. The memories!! |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Charmion Date: 12 Nov 24 - 09:57 AM Dorothy, is there a Habitat for Humanity ReStore anywhere near you? The branch here in Stratford handles recycling of dead computers and their peripherals, including printers, and I’d bet money that’s something they all do. For your own sake, get someone to rid you of those non-functional printers! Over the last four years I think I have hauled about three generations of computer parts to the ReStore. The house is much more livable without them. I’m sorry to read that you’re feeling so frail and blue, and glad to note that food and rest perk you up considerably. Please update us on your thoughts and actions whenever you feel up to putting words together. We care. |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Nov 24 - 10:21 AM Dorothy, I need to either do something with my old Wordpress account or bail on it. Like you say, I think I wrote better then. (I felt like I had more to write about!) It's a question of adjusting that one or changing venues and subject matter. Scattershot all over a few social media isn't great communication. I took myself off of statins this year, but I don't consider that as important as the one you took yourself off of. Maybe your doctor has a suggestion of a version of that with fewer side effects? Or sometimes there is a companion medication to help with those. Since you looked at your hold homes, I've revisited a couple: my childhood home (the earliest one I remember) was upgraded and now appears to have a basement apartment. The house we moved to when I was finishing elementary school has had some changes (the front porch rebuilt) but the robust magnolia that we gave my mom for Mother's Day in 1968 is still at the corner of the front yard. The current street view from 2018 has a garage. The 2024 satellite view looks like they tore it off. Good work on the printer setup, and I'm sorry Taun's bagels were a bit stale when he left. Attacking the fence post this afternoon. |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Charmion's brother Andrew Date: 12 Nov 24 - 11:38 AM When Zach de ka Rocha wrote "Rage Against the Machine," I am pretty sure he was thinking of a printer. |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: keberoxu Date: 12 Nov 24 - 01:14 PM Stilly, I hope your eye is recovering after receiving a punch from a sunflower. Charmion, I hope your cough is clearing up at last. ANd Dorothy, as Senoufou would say, you keep a'troshin'. |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Nov 24 - 02:25 PM Keb, thanks! Yesterday afternoon it was at its worst but by evening was barely noticeable. Today it seems to have cleared up. And yes, I also wondered about the cough - and do Charmion's cats take umbrage at the disturbance or are they sympathetic and better cuddlers? The sunflowers are almost gone and no crops in the yard this fall. Herbs still - oregano and rosemary make it through the winter; the first freeze will kill the basil. The last of this year's acorn squash has been consumed. My daughter told me that she decided to experiment with her four chickens so carved a few holes into it and gave it to the birds. It didn't take long before they were pecking and prodding and ate about half of it the first day, thoroughly enjoying the seeds and pulp. They finished it the next day. As enrichment activities go she had two days of very happy birds. I've started working with the dogs on cooperation with each other - there are things they are fine about, others they are jealous. If I take a nap on the couch or the recliner Cookie has been allowed to hop up and as long as she sleeps can stay. Pepper is less of a nap dog. But I've decided to give them access to the sofa if I'm sitting there, one dog on each side. Cookie is very territorial about the couch, so with a dog on each side Cookie was ready to launch herself at the offending Pepper. I did several short attempts and by the last one Cookie had settled down. I'll keep this up until they get the idea. This would have been impossible when there were three since the Lab was pretty leaky and not welcome on any furniture. Research on diet continues, with attention now to the upcoming holidays and what to bake. Sugar is part of the chemistry of baking so taking it out is difficult. The alternatives look worse (Heathline article 1 and Healthline article 2) so I think it will end up being a combination of stevia with some added bulk (yogurt, applesauce) for volume and a smaller proportion of regular white sugar for additional volume and browning. The bottom line is that sugar is bad for you but the substitutes (erythritol et al.) are worse.
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Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Charmion Date: 12 Nov 24 - 05:10 PM Watson and Isobel have co-existed with the Cough from Hell since they were 12 weeks old. They know it’s loud but harmless — at least to them. I got through choir practice last night and felt surprisingly okay this morning. Still coughing, but slightly less often and less disgusting. The doc (consulted this afternoon) wanted to dose me with Prednisone again, but I protested — again? When I had a heavy-duty two-week course of it back in March? Hmmm, maybe I had a point. So we compromised: if I stop improving, or relapse, I’ll call in for a prescription. |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Nov 24 - 06:23 PM Good luck with that! Steroids and antibiotics are wonderful tools but they are overused. Hopefully the only thing you need now is a healthy dose of time (and do you breathe steam to soothe your respiratory system?) The fence post is pretty securely lodged so I'll call next door and plan tomorrow to go around to their side of the fence to do some digging and pushing in the direction I want it to move (straight up - it leans into their yard at about 15o from vertical). Meanwhile I did an esthetic project. The fence posts are all set in concrete that it is not flush with the surface so pickets at the post look taller than the rest of the fence, giving it a wavy look. I worked my way the length of that fence removing those pickets, turned them upside down, figured how much would come off the bottom and drew a line before sawing. After trimming about a dozen pickets the fence looks much better. And in the "it's always something" department, today's work made it clear that my tool arrangement needs work. I have enough battery-operated Ryobi tools that now they are an ungainly stack in the laundry room. I need to look at the shelves on both sides of that tiny room and decide what gets moved to make space or if the tools need a new home entirely. It may be that some stuff goes to the garage and the tools get most of the lowest shelf over the washer. |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Dorothy Parshall Date: 12 Nov 24 - 10:08 PM Dupont: Phoned the oncology nurse this am and we agreed that she would make an appointment on Friday for R and I to talk with the Dr. and her to sort out the Ibrance problem - I vote for no more! I mentioned that I should no longer be paying for meds now that I have official health card. Then the pharmacy phoned and asked us to stop in after we see the doctor. I messaged R but no response so I just hope he can do this. (OH! I must tell Taun!) Slightly better today. Ate well and went to store with slight trepidation. But I felt a bit better for getting out. I did. however, end up with 6 loaves of various breads which will barely get space in the freezer! My goal was the goat cheese shop but it is closed Mon and tues! Hopefully tomorrow as I am craving the lovely cheese Taun bought there; - the cause of all the breads! The cheese is expensive but I need to eat better to feel better. I did get some veggies as well! |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Charmion Date: 13 Nov 24 - 10:19 AM Good for you, Dorothy. Focus on things and activities that give you pleasure and help you feel strong. Good food ticks those boxes. In my experience, there ain’t no such thing as good cheese that is not expensive. Yet again, I noped out of pool class at the Y after a night of broken sleep due to coughing. I have a haircut scheduled for today and a work session in the choir library tomorrow, and if I get through those without a major coughing fit, maybe I’ll be ready for pool class on Friday. The sun is bright and strong today, so a walk before lunch would be good; that’s the time of day when I feel most capable.. |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Nov 24 - 12:45 PM Ticking off the various office decluttering items that need doing, filing and shredding so far. Fall came to my computer desk via a scattering of colorful post-it notes that are slowly rounded up and acted upon - send the note, bookmark the podcast or film, save a book title in GoodReads, an appointment that is past - all into the trash when finished. A couple of films are now on my Prime watchlist and sorted the Spotify free account and a podcast added to it. The Spectrum account is closed and there is no way to see the autopay stuff but I did what I could to disable that when I made the last payment. Disturbing dust has caused some sneezing (I will dust when I finish clearing). This morning I sent an email to WYSIWYG - Susan Hinton. I hadn't heard anything from her for a long time but stumbled upon a Facebook group where she is still modestly active. I have no information about where she's living or how much much help she's needing now. I concur about the price of cheese - the good stuff costs money. The reason I love my local warehouse gourmet grocery is for things like high end cheese and yogurt that turn up there periodically. Last week I found some high-end havarti. Usually I buy at places like Costco (their Coastal rugged mature sharp cheddar is a favorite.) Good dining, Dorothy! I hope that doctor appointment gives you the best of both worlds - comfort and prolonged life. |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Dorothy Parshall Date: 13 Nov 24 - 08:22 PM Dupont: YUMMIE Cheese! My son likes any cheese but cheddar. I rarely buy anything else. So I have six different - well, five now! The small $6 piece was lunch on the special bread I bought yesterday. scrumptious and cheaper than a lunch thingy at Timmy's. A treat after supper was a dif creamy cheese. The nice young man at the shop was very patient trying to determine what was "Charlie"- the name I read on the label from T's cheese. When I got home and took the old label out of the trash, it is Charrue! And I did bring home out a piece of that, serendipitously. Fromagerie Ruban Bleu is a goat farm 20 minutes away so many of the cheeses are their goat cheeses. There is also a wide selection of other Quebec cheeses. Their beautiful shop is the nicest I have found in this town - for anything! They seem to be doing well; people must visit from miles around! It is a class act! This town is far from a class act! Today: 30 min driving, time in store, 10 min home, lunch. Then I fell asleep in the chair and went up to bed. Now ready to go back to bed - but on clean sheets as I did manage a laundry. Oh! I drove the river road, beautifully full to the brim with hundreds of geese in the shallows. Lovely! |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 14 Nov 24 - 04:33 AM > high end cheese and yogurt that turn up there periodically (*ahem*) Do they walk there :-) ? |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Mrrzy Date: 14 Nov 24 - 10:57 AM That sounds beautiful! And cheese doesn't walk, it runs. Yay new drugs. Organized my hats, finally, so there are all the berets (winter) on the big Eiffel tower, all the bucket hats (summer) in the closet, all the other hats (rain, boat, etc) sorted by type and either displayed on the antler hatrack or away in the closet. Found all the hats I'd wondered where they were, and a few I'd forgotten I owned, and even put a few in the Go to thrift store pile. Got through the mound I'd amassed in the studio, finding art I'd forgotten I'd acquired on my travels, presents I've forgotten to give people and now that I think of it, fuck'm, they're trumpians, ha, will redistribute anyway. And bags and piles to the thrift stores, woot. Next is the clean clothes, which did get folded but haven't been put away... Progress! |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 14 Nov 24 - 12:36 PM MaJoC - when the local high end groceries do food promotions and don't sell all of them, their wholesale suppliers send the extras over to this place, pennies on the dollar. This place repackages those huge wheels of cheese and sells in large portions for a modest (still not necessarily cheap) price. High end yogurt is good at $1.59 a quart vs $7 and up at Central Market. They sell tons of produce and when they have breads gluten free I load up and freeze them - the prices are eye-watering at the Sprouts or HEB but they're usually $1 each here. The groceries aisles have lots of sauces and canned goods and boxed stuff. I see stuff there that sells at Costco and Aldi - they all redistribute their excess and Town Talk is there to pass the savings on. They have produce out every day but on Saturday is when you can really dive in for savings. You have to be picky - sometimes the asparagus is wilted or the peppers are too close to gone. There may be mold on one or two of the strawberries - but if you're taking things home to prepare today - cut up, cook, freeze, whatever, then tossing a moldy organic strawberry and using the rest when they come at about $1.50 a pound or $8 a flat (8 pounds) is worth it. Most things that are novel come through, are sold out and never appear again. I've discovered some great salsas and hot sauces and tea flavors that way. One of the hot sauces was so good that I now order it online and pay the full price plus shipping. Back in the yard the next section of the sunflower stand is cut and shoved in the trash; goggles and gloves this time. First I harvested a quart bag of seed heads for my daughter who thinks she wants some on her property in the next county north. Be careful what you wish for, but I cut some seeds for her. The box with the embroidery thread is on the kitchen table; I'll pick a few primary and variegated colors to keep for reference or for adding to sewing projects here, and send the rest in the box to my son's partner. As my daughter and I went through them we realized why I had so many - when KMart closed about 25 years ago (!) they put notions on sale. Some of the old sale stickers are still on them. J.P. Coats most of those, but there are also a lot of DMC. Maybe I got those when Hancock closed? I accomplished quite a lot yesterday, and have generally been more efficient over the last week. My usual catching up on news (on MSNBC or CNN) intermittently during the day habit is on hold for now; I can't stand to hear about Trump's stupid choices. I'll read the newspaper to get that stuff and not have to listen to his voice. Classical music via my CDs or radio are the main background noise now. |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 14 Nov 24 - 07:27 PM The Ryobi tools are now on the shelf in the laundry room but one of the utility baskets that lived there needs a new home. The contents may get spread around and the basket into the donation bin. I've located a video about gate building that lets me work with the small space left in the fence, so am ready to move forward. I dug out the root and have to finish firming up the post before I do any more building (and possibly putting in one more post). The lumber is all in place and the pickets have the wood preservative painted on. It seems like sending the care package to my son now might be an odd move with xmas around the corner, but it will help clear stuff on the side of the kitchen table and cluttering the sideboard. It isn't gift type material. This reminds me of a couple of sewing projects I'd like to get to now rather than the last minute. |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: pattyClink Date: 15 Nov 24 - 09:50 AM Kudos Mrrzy, you are on a roll! Chaos here. The lovely modern kitchen sink tap opens and runs water at will, so it is tied up with a bungee til a new one arrives (checked for fixes online, it can be tweaked but is a bad design which will continue to fail). I spent time cleaning up the little front cactus garden but that just seems to highlight what else is wrong. Took forever to get the large prickly tumbleweed out of there. They have to be disassembled into a hundred small branches to get bagged up. Sort of like taking apart 3 tangled Christmas trees that are out to hurt you. Oh well. I tossed the bedraggled herbaceous plants with lots of berries over in the rough part of the yard and the birds seem to like having more private access to their goodies. Picked up what looked like a small neutral sleeper sofa, quite a bargain, in an antique shop. Took staff an hour to wrestle it out of the place (though I had called a few days earlier to say I would be there), and heard an ominous remark by the main guy moving it 'it's incredibly heavy'. Oh drat. Note to self NEVER buy something without lifting one end of it. Bought 2 dollies on the way home, but, still, could not lift enough to work with it. (Yes I know there are lifter tools but I didn't have one). Sheepishly called the neighbor who has already done too much for me, and he brought a second neighbor, and they still struggled with it. Were my kitchen equipped I would whip up some goodies for them, but alas, I am not, and getting set up will be another 8 things tacked on to the end of the endless list. Perhaps I'll go ahead and purchase the goathead roller and make it available to borrow. I need it badly and it would be something I could contribute to the neighborhood tool-borrowing supply. Today I am off to pick up the vintage bedroom set which mercifully is in manageable pieces. Just have to clear an entire room to get it in and set up. |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Charmion Date: 15 Nov 24 - 11:19 AM Good Lord, Patty. I'll never complain about Ontario's native flora again! I had a lovely modern kitchen faucet that cost an obscene amount of money and was at the cutting edge of fashion, if you can imagine that plumbing has fashion. It was one of those tall ones with an extendable sprayer on the end, very elegant. But its stream of water was weak from the get-go for no apparent reason, and after a couple of years it decreased to a mere trickle. My favourite plumber took it apart and found that it had several layers of mesh screen in the business end, at least three more layers than is usually found in the spout of a kitchen faucet, and all of them were clotted with lime. That tall, elegant faucet also splattered its weak stream of water all over the place because, of course, it was released several inches above the brim of the sink. Whenever you washed your hands, or rinsed a dish, or scrubbed a potato, the water flew far and wide. I had never seen such faucets before that brief period of plumbing fashion, and now I know why. So I junked the obscenely expensive fashionable faucet and, on the plumber's advice, went to Canadian Tire for a bog-standard Moen faucet that cost literally hundreds of dollars less. Years later, it continues to perform flawlessly. Weather today is damp and chilly, with fog. On my way home from pool class -- made it today! -- I noted that the posties are on strike. Just in time for the Christmas rush. How traditional! |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Nov 24 - 11:28 AM Patty, I've never heard of the goathead roller - wow! That's serious infestation control. And your description of moving that bed sounds like a good way to get to know your neighbors. I've paid someone come in to move my upright grand piano three times between residences. I had special heavy-duty castors installed to make rolling it a bit easier, but it still weighs 1000 pounds. Good luck with the kitchen faucet. This reminds me I've been meaning to change out my kitchen faucet. "Washerless" doesn't mean there isn't a problem with adjusting or dripping. (Charmion's faucet kind of describes the one I want to replace, except it wasn't expensive, it's that the connecter lines are not the usual gauge and the pressure is always a bit low. It needs the next larger line and can only be accomplished by changing the entire faucet.) Mrrzy's studio sounds fascinating. When you went through the pile of art and clothing what remained in the room? What kind of art? (And are you redistributing the forgotten gifts to the Trumper recipients or to other recipients?) Still have a lot to do around here. Keep moving forward. |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Nov 24 - 04:37 PM With the holidays around the corner I need to put a lot of stuff away (the dining table has the photo cube for eBay listings, boxes for packing things are in the den, and the sunroom has accumulated things that need recycling or put away.) I've started with the sunroom, plucking dead leaves off of the plants in the stands in the bay window and vacuuming up those that dropped to the window ledge and floor. If I really want to be efficient, I can finish the jigsaw puzzle lower the drop-leaf on that table. When it comes to skilled craftspeople, I have to call the electrician one of these days since most of those projects I don't do myself. I will change the kitchen faucet, but after the holiday. Charmion, how's the cough and did you do any more choir stuff this week? Dorothy, did R get home and is he working on projects for you to sort out the pottery and various houses and where stuff is stored? Is everyone in the US doing some version of Thanksgiving this year? Do you have to jump through a lot of hoops to accomplish it? Do share! |
Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024 From: keberoxu Date: 15 Nov 24 - 04:48 PM An ongoing topic on this thread is what to shampoo with if regular shampoo is irritating to your scalp. Currently I'm buying from the Vermont Country Store website, a product called Silver Savior shampoo. The silver ingredient is something called colloidal silver. Sadly, for those who are extremely sensitive, this product still has laureth this and paraben that in it, so it won't work for people who have coconut allergies, for example. It seems to be working for me, though. My scalp has settled down wonderfully using this product. |
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