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Subject: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST Date: 01 Jul 02 - 03:04 PM 120 dead. So is this what the 'war on terrorism' means? Full story from the BBC here I won't bother with the CNN report. That says that 4 people were injured. Right... This is sickening. A Pentagon spokesman said 'sorry' Thanks for that America |
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Subject: RE: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Genie Date: 01 Jul 02 - 03:48 PM Well, guest, to quote Charlie Daniels' patriotic masterpiece, "The Last Fallen Hero,"
"This is a righteous cause, so without doubt or pause and
"Now the winds of war are blowing, and there's no way of knowing
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Subject: RE: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST Date: 01 Jul 02 - 03:52 PM a righteous cause???? I don't think so. Bin Laden is probably not in Afghanistan - face it, you have no idea where he is. Bombing innocent Afghanis is in NO way justifiable Righteous my arse! |
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Subject: RE: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:04 PM Guest, you've started a non-music thread that will be sure to attract lots of arguments. It's our custom here, when doing that, to use the BS: prefix in the thread title. And people tend to prefer that you choose some name to post with, so everyone can keep it straight whcih Guest they are addressing in replying to any points that have been made. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Bobert Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:04 PM This bloody path will lead to yet another bloody path which will lead to yet another bloody path which will lead to yet.... And the beat goes on. Yeah, war sucks and things like this bombing happen in wars. Always have. But war is no longer a practical foriegn policy alternative for the US. The world has gotten too tribalized the economy to mixed. The current "War on Terrorism" (which it isn't...) cannot succeed. Only a foreign policy that better addresses global poverty, a redistribution of wealth, inclusion, and the teaching og peace can work. All we are doing is insuring that "We will face it again." And again, and again, and... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: SharonA Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:06 PM According to the CNN article and the ABCNews article, on their respective websites, the Pentagon's official word at present is that the US is not sure whether the damage was the result of an "errant bomb" that the US dropped as part of a response to anti-aircraft fire over the region, or whether the anti-aircraft fire itself – falling back to earth – was responsible. There's a question as to whether there was a deliberate anti-aircraft attack, or whether the US pilots mistook the firing of guns as part of the wedding party to be a military attack. But even if these people were shooting as part of a celebration, it's a dangerous practice (those bullets fall back to earth too, y'know), especially when your town is being flown over by an opposing military force with bombs! How many brain cells does it take to know better? Sheesh!!! The four injured people in question are civilians that US forces themselves had airlifted to a hospital in Kandahar, so they're the only casualties the US can be sure of. The other casualty figures, at this point, are speculation until confirmed. Here's the ABCNews article: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/STRIKE_MAIN.html |
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Subject: RE: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:18 PM A number of good points, Sharon. However, to suggest that the Afghans 'should have realized' that the traditional practice of shooting guns in the air would be mistaken for anti-aircraft fire... It's pretty obvious who has the smaller number of brain cells. God, I hate America |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: RolyH Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:25 PM Point made Guest,but there must be better places to air your views than a music forum. RolyH(in the UK) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST,mkebenn Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:26 PM However many people were hurt/killed, it was unintended, unlike flying airplanes full of innocent people into buildings. I grieve, but in contex. Mike |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST,Just Amy Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:33 PM One, two, three, what are we fightin' for? Don't ask me I don't give a damn... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Wesley S Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:37 PM Gee - An unnamed guest thats's critical of America. What a suprise. I'm sure our guest is just as upset about the innocents that died on 9/11. Let's not raise to this bait. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Don Firth Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:39 PM We do tend to get things bass-ackwards. The Korean War was a war. But the gummint insisted on calling it a "police action." The terrorist attack of 9/11 was a criminal act, and should have been responded to with an actual police action (track down the individuals responsible and bring them to justice), but the gummint insisted on declaring "War on Terrorism" and then bombed the crap out of a little country that had already had the crap bombed out of it. And we wonder where terrorist come from. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: SharonA Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:41 PM One sentence in that BBC article puzzles me – it says: "One six-year-old girl was brought to the hospital still wearing her party dress." "Still wearing"?? Like the other injured people went home and changed clothes first???? Yes, I realize that this is an obvious attempt to wring more tears from the reader, but it puzzles me that it appears in a news article that is supposed to be objective and dispassionate. From the BBC, no less. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: X Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:42 PM The Afghans should have kicked their "House Guest" out sooner. By the way GUEST, I'm an American and I hate you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:44 PM Hear, hear, Don |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:46 PM The Banjoest, I feel very sorry that you have the need to hate anyone. Hate is a very bad emotion |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Penny S. Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:47 PM It was the middle of the night, I heard. Penny |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Joe Offer Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:51 PM Well, I would imagine that most Americans will be full of regret that this has happened. It's a horrible thing, and it shouldn't have happened - but somebody made a horrible mistake, and it DID happen. I hate war. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST,Just Amy Date: 01 Jul 02 - 05:25 PM CNN is reporting 20 dead and 60 injured. See www.cnn.com |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST Date: 01 Jul 02 - 05:47 PM For space age technology, for Stone Age finesse, For getting us all in one hell of a mess, With your God save America, God damn the rest. America, we stand against you
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: SharonA Date: 01 Jul 02 - 05:47 PM GUEST says in response to my post: "...to suggest that the Afghans 'should have realized' that the traditional practice of shooting guns in the air would be mistaken for anti-aircraft fire..." No, I didn't suggest that they "should have realized" that; I suggested that shooting guns in the air when an opposition force that has the capacity to drop bombs on you is in your country is not a very wise thing to do. Please note, in the ABCNews article I linked, that it says, "Pentagon and U.S. military Central Command officials told ABCNEWS that U.S. military forces on the ground in the Uruzgan province in southern Afghanistan came under anti-aircraft fire while on a reconnaissance patrol mission Sunday night local time. Troops then called in close air support, according to U.S. officials, and coalition aircraft opened fire on a target in a village about 100 miles north of the southern Afghan city of Kandahar. U.S. officials acknowledged that at least one bomb went astray during the attack on the target." My guess is that the troops on the ground were able to tell the difference between shooting party-goers and anti-aircraft fire. I also guess that the partying villagers were aware that IN THEIR VILLAGE there were people using anti-aircraft artillery. And yet they popped off their party guns, at night, when those flashes MIGHT – not would, but might – be interpreted from the air as being part of the anti-aircraft attack GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME IN THE SAME VILLAGE. It's foolish, to say the least, to take a chance on killing your fellow party-goer in any case. Besides, when did this shooting-off of guns become a "traditional" part of an Afghani wedding celebration? To me, it sounds less like tradition than like a bad habit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST Date: 01 Jul 02 - 06:00 PM Besides, when did this shooting-off of guns become a "traditional" part of an Afghani wedding celebration? To me, it sounds less like tradition than like a bad habit. So, what 'you think' is important? You obviosly know nothing about Afghani culture To try and defend the US action in this case is a losing battle. America did wrong. VERY WRONG The earlier GUEST who quoted "With your God save America, God damn the rest" had it pretty much spot on |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: greg stephens Date: 01 Jul 02 - 06:20 PM Cockups happen.War is shit. And GUEST, Afghanis is not a polite term for Afghans; if you want to present yourself as someone a little bit in the know, try a bit of research. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST Date: 01 Jul 02 - 06:25 PM Thank you Greg, point taken The fact that this is a 'war' against a non-existant enemy where innocent Afghans die for no good reason should surely be questioned? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Amos Date: 01 Jul 02 - 07:00 PM Guest: A non-existant enemy? Excuse me? Oh, dear -- you mean we just misplaced three skyscrapers full of innocent people? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST Date: 01 Jul 02 - 07:11 PM Amos, I'm aware of two towers. Where do you get your 'third' skyscaper from? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: X Date: 01 Jul 02 - 07:44 PM Guest: Truly, I don't hate you, But I feel sorry you hate a whole country of people, people who are only defending themselves. I just thougth you need a bit of your own of your own medicine. Looks like you didn't like the taste. Don't forget, it was hate for the US that started this mess and they were the first ones to fire on us. Pay back is a bitch. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Amos Date: 01 Jul 02 - 07:47 PM I believe at least one other WTC building was destroyed, but I may be wrong about that. Correct it to two, then. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Lepus Rex Date: 01 Jul 02 - 07:56 PM What did you mean, mkbenn, by "However many people were hurt/killed, it was unintended, unlike flying airplanes full of innocent people into buildings. I grieve, but in contex"? You mean they didn't mean to kill anyone with those bombs they dropped? It was all just an awful mistake? Please. US soldiers such as those responsible for todays massacres have shown over and over that they have no respect for Afghan lives. Most of them are cretins who spent their childhoods raping Ned Beatty and shooting 'possums for dinner. Savages. But what, exactly, does 9/11 have to do with the evaporation of an Afghan wedding party? How were a bunch of Afghan hillbillies responsible for "flying airplanes full of innocent people into buildings?" Oh, maybe they were the ones who blew up Amos' "third tower." And Banjoest said: "Don't forget, it was hate for the US that started this mess and they were the first ones to fire on us. Pay back is a bitch." Again, WHAT Afghans are you talking about? How... Oh, forget it. I won't even try with something like you. Just continue to take up valuable oxygen, genius. You couldn't find Afghanistan on a map of Afghanistan. God, you're some evil fuckers. ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST,Matt Date: 01 Jul 02 - 08:28 PM Sharon asks why the BBC would include the detail about the wounded girl arriving at the hospital in her party dress. Well, duh. Sharon, dear, think about how the news business works. American bomb falls on little Afghan girl. That, sadly, is not news. American bomb falls on little Afghan girl wearing party dress. Aha, now that's the kind of horrific detail that will get people's attention. Run that story. In any case, is it such a bad thing for us Americans to be reminded that when bombs are dropped, some land on children? Our revenge for 9/11 comes at a terrible price, and in fact we all knew this when we lined up behind President Bush as he ordered our forces into action. We knew that collateral damage would occur, i.e., that innocents would be maimed and killed by accident as we exacted our revenge. I don't see how pointing out the obvious makes CNN somehow unobjective in their reporting. This is not to say that firing guns into the air when there are American bombers in the vicinity is a bright idea. Those people should be nominated for a Darwin award. Then again, the primate brain is fairly small, and has room for at most one thought. Shoot gun, now. Make big noise. Express joy, yes. I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But the little girl in the news story was surely not the one pulling the trigger, and it is not a breach of objectivity for CNN to point that out. She's an innocent victim, no matter where you think the blame lies. We humans are rather a hopeless lot. Americans are no better or worse than our English-speaking "GUEST", who for all we know may be from a country with an equally spotty record in the matter of Afghanistan. The fact is, we've been soaking the earth with each other's blood ever since we figured out that it was possible. I don't see any hope that this will change, whether the United States remains dominant or some new power rises, or we all just fall into anarchy. I won't be waving any flags today, or spouting off about just causes. But I *will* remember that little girl as I change my son's diaper tonight. My family won the geographic lottery, that's all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Wincing Devil Date: 01 Jul 02 - 08:40 PM Take into consideration that once you have read a news account of an event, you have a fairly good idea of what DIDN'T happen. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Don Firth Date: 01 Jul 02 - 08:55 PM ". . . when we lined up behind President Bush. . . ." Sorry, Matt, but "we" didn't all line up behind President Bush. I stand by what I said above. The response to 9/11 should have been something amounting to a police action, i.e., tracking down the guilty parties and bringing them to justice. Granted, this would be extremely difficult to do. Nevertheless! Bush took the easy way and simply declared war on what looked like the most likely target. That it would result in "collateral damage" should come as no surprise to anyone. Whereas the polls claim that the whole country is "lining up" behind Bush, there is a substantial number of people who are aware that, from the start of his tenure as President, Bush was in for some pretty heavy weather. It may seem callous to say, but 9/11 was the best thing that could have happened to him. The collective knee-jerk kicked him up in the polls, and the international situation creates enough distraction that it's allowing him to attempt to push things through on the domestic front that will return this country to the nineteenth century. But not everybody is fooled. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Amos Date: 01 Jul 02 - 09:03 PM Lepus: Excuse me; you have eithe rmisunderstood me, or something much worse, but I seriously object to being called an evil fucker by anyone. I was responding to the anonymous Guest's remark about non-existent enemies. I was not justifying or lessening in any way the horror of this incident and all events of similar insanity. Including the destruction of the two main towers and the other buildings at the World Trade Center which were lost. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Lepus Rex Date: 01 Jul 02 - 09:11 PM Ah, actually, I only meant to call Banjoest and mkbenn "evil fuckers." The "third tower" comment was s'posed to be funny, from my original, light-hearted post, which I almost completely re-wrote after I read Banjoest's latest. Should've deleted the reference to you in the final version. Sorry. :) ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Bill D Date: 01 Jul 02 - 09:11 PM righto!...some soldiers make a mistake and you post "shame" in a folk group..(and the use of the spelling 'arse' pretty much jibes with other cultural/linguistic hints to tell us where most of these 'guest' postings are from..) Write a letter to the Pentagon saying "please, be more careful"--but go the hell away and LEAVE THIS GROUP OUT OF IT, unless you have something positive to contribute! BTW...there were at least 4 buildings destroyed...3 from the direct result of the planes--not that it makes any relevant difference. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Celtic Soul Date: 01 Jul 02 - 09:41 PM Amos, you are correct. The 2 twin towers got all the press, but there was a *lot* of collateral damage. I saw a couple of friends of mine just last night who live in NYC. One of them has been commuting to Connecticut, and now to Jersey City because her building was decimated. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Amos Date: 01 Jul 02 - 10:01 PM Thanks, CS -- someone oughta post an inventory. There's a terrific in-depth story about the excavation in the current Atlantic. But really, the point is not that we have enemies. We kind of know that. The question is, are we handling them with any more intelligence than we are fucking up all the other aspects of our struggle for decent survival on a limited if beautiful sphere in a huge vacuum... and I think not. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Genie Date: 01 Jul 02 - 11:00 PM Guest, I hope you realize that in quoting Charlie Daniels's song, I was using irony. Unfortunately, I fear that the sentiments he expresses in that song echo those of an awful lot, if not the majority, of the US public right now. I hope that the news coverage of this mishap will help wake folks up to the realities of even a "just" war. Genie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Bobert Date: 01 Jul 02 - 11:05 PM Take a deep beath and chill, folks. Now, try to put a little more effort into finding common ground as opposed to slaughtering one another in some game of win-lose. We have a world full of win-lose folks at the controls and with them the world is very much less stable than what any clear thinking perspon would prefer... Start thinking peace, compromise and what kind of world you want to leave for your kids.., Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Peg Date: 01 Jul 02 - 11:09 PM why is it always assumed that an entire NATION must be somehow responsible for the actions of its military or government? I didn't vote for these people, and I think bombing Afghanistan in retribution for something a bunch of Saudi Arabian nationals did defies logic...I mean, it's so illogical it isn't even wrong... As for "them" attacking "us" first...get real. 9-11 was a wake-up call for anyone who has not yet realized that there is a huge amount of hatred for the USA across the globe. I personally do not feel this is entirely deserved, but it would be extremely naive and not a little bit dishonest to think that we as a nation have not also wrought a great deal of evil in the world... No one deserves to be bombed to death.
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Subject: Peace, compromise, the world we'll leave our kids From: Haruo Date: 01 Jul 02 - 11:15 PM I'm with Genie's latest, Joe's choice of hate objects, and Bobert's counsel. Liland |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: X Date: 01 Jul 02 - 11:26 PM Lepus Rex: I've been to war and yes,I am an Evil Fucker but not so evil I would fly a plane full of innocents into a building kill other innocents. What we did is sadly the thing that happens in wars, people get killed and yes this is a war, but we didn't fly that bomb into that wedding on purpose. The US has done a Damd good job of keeping civilian casualties down. Hell, we could have carpet bombed the place. By the way King Rabbit, I know where Afghanstan is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Lanfranc Date: 02 Jul 02 - 04:41 AM If the first victim of any war is truth, the second is always children. Children lose their fathers in fighting, and in indiscriminate modern war, their mothers, other family members and even their own lives in "collateral damage". Then, for example, if they are Iraqi, they are denied medical treatment and adequate food by a combination of the despot ruling their own country and indiscriminate sanctions aimed at that despot.
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Hrothgar Date: 02 Jul 02 - 05:17 AM Some spin doctors are going to have their work cut out convincing the survivors of the wedding party not to have at least a strong distate for Americans. ..and of course, they can't tell the difference between Bush supporters and opponents any more that the military can tell the difference between guns fired by a wedding party and guns fired in anger. By the way, I'm intrigued, as a student of military tactics, about the party of ground troops that came under anti-aircraft fire (described above). Were the troops as high as some of those in Vietnam? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: GUEST,mkebenn Date: 02 Jul 02 - 08:14 AM Evil fucker because I grieve for innocents caught in a war torn country? Sigh, see ya, have a nice day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: PeteBoom Date: 02 Jul 02 - 09:01 AM Ya know - maybe they'd be better if the US and all their pals pulled out and left the folks there to sort things out for themselves.... Oh, wait - we tried that once. That resulted in the Taliban coming to power. Is there another suggestion? Have a day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: SharonA Date: 02 Jul 02 - 09:32 AM GUEST asks, sarcastically, "So, what 'you think' is important?" What I think is no more or less important than what anyone else on this Forum thinks. That's why forums like this exist, to be a means of sharing and exchanging points of view. For GUEST to express his or her thoughts and then to rudely dismiss the thoughts of others only serves to invalidate GUEST's opinion. In other words, GUEST, if what others think is unimportant to you, don't expect others to share your view of your own importance. GUEST also says, "You obviosly know nothing about Afghani culture." GUEST obviously knows nothing about how to spell "obviously"! As to "Afghani culture", I know that it existed before guns were invented, so I have trouble accepting the claim that shooting guns into the air is part of some ancient rite. I also know that people all over the world like to make noise when they're celebrating, and that some forms of noisemaking are not safe. In some cultures, the unsafe noisemaking is regulated and those who violate those regulations can be arrested and/or can have their noisemakers confiscated (e.g. in some US states it's illegal for the general public to purchase and shoot fireworks, or to shoot guns into the air – and, yes, some people here do it anyway and call it their "tradition" and think there's nothing wrong with it, but it's still illegal). I also know that it used to be part of American culture and tradition to send black people to the back of the bus and to discriminate against them in many other ways that were just as indefensible as the "tradition" of endangering others' lives by indiscriminate shooting. GUEST also says, "To try and defend the US action in this case is a losing battle." The US "action" was a military action, taken in response to an enemy's deliberate act of aggression (anti-aircraft fire), and as often happens a bomb missed its target – the bombing of innocent civilians was unintentional. GUEST seems to doubt that there was any anti-aircraft fire, so I refer GUEST to the following text, taken from the article linked here: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/STRIKE_MAIN.html "...Afghans say about 40 people were killed at a wedding ceremony on Monday, in which participants fired their guns into the air in celebration. However, U.S. officials said it appeared to be more than just celebratory fire. " 'Normally when you think of celebratory fire, which is something that is not necessarily uncommon, it's random, it's sprayed, it's not directed at a specific target,' U.S. Colonel Roger King said at Bagram air base. 'In this instance, the people on board the aircraft felt that the weapons were tracking them and were making a sustained effort to engage them.' "Pentagon and U.S. military Central Command officials told ABCNEWS that U.S. military forces on the ground and in the air were conducting a large reconnaissance operation Sunday evening in Uruzgan province, an area where Taliban leader Mullah Omar is thought to be hiding, when they came under what appeared to be hostile fire. "Troops called in air support, according to U.S. officials, and coalition aircraft opened fire on a target in a village about 100 miles north of the city of Kandahar. During the operation, an American AC-130 gunship took 'deliberate and sustained anti-aircraft fire' from the ground, and shot back. The officials say an American B-52 also dropped seven precision-guided bombs, called JDAMs, targeted at caves and bunkers. Officials confirmed one of the bombs missed its target." GUEST says, "America did wrong. VERY WRONG." That's an emotional value judgment (kinda like that "hating Americans" thing... some people will say it's wrong to hate anyone, others will try to justify the "rightness" of hating a select group of people whether they're directly responsible for a "wrong" action or not). Militarily, the US forces did just what their training says they should have done in response to a military threat – no "right" or "wrong" about it. There's nothing "right" or "wrong" about a mistake, and a bomb missing its target is a mistake. Shit happens. Italics fixed by JoeClone |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: SharonA Date: 02 Jul 02 - 09:38 AM Oops – I didn't put an end-of-italics HTML after the word "WRONG" in the last paragraph of my last post. (See, there's another mistake! *G*) That paragraph is my commentary, and not part of the ABC News article that I'd posted in italics above it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: kendall Date: 02 Jul 02 - 10:08 AM Why is it that people can create "smart bombs" but we can't create smart people to drop them? Right on Peg! These people who think it all started with the towers remind me of the story about the little boy who came home with a bloody nose and a black eye; his father asked what happened, and he said "It all started when he hit me back." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bomb an Afghan Wedding. Well done USA! From: Lepus Rex Date: 02 Jul 02 - 12:18 PM No, mkebenn, because you're grieving "in context." Because your sorrow is apparently tempered by the fact that the victims were Muslims. Again, why bring up 9/11? What did these people have to do with "flying airplanes full of innocent people into buildings?" Seriously, I'd like to know. And Banjoest, there is no "war." Maybe in a "war on drugs" way, but not in a "WW2" way, or even a "Vietnam" way. Keep telling yourself that there is, though, if it makes you feel better about all those "civilian casualties." And as others have already pointed out, there were no Afghans flying airplanes into buildings on Sept. 11th. The only thing the hijackers had in common with the Afghan peoples is that they were Muslims. Are Muslims the "they" you spoke of, the ones who deserve some "pay back?" See, evil. ---Lepus Rex
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