BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: The Sandman
Date: 30 Sep 24 - 09:51 AM

Vested interEst hs long been a problem as well as corruption.Ernest Marples who had a road haulage business, was made minister for transport and appointed Beeching who savaged the rail network

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Sep 24 - 10:50 AM

@Raindog - I just watched the Truss Q&A session on YT, and you’re correct, she didn’t say the Tories would have won the GE if she was the PM, the Guardian’s report is correct. Black mark to the BBC for allowing that to be reported on ‘Politics Live At The Conference’ when it appears not to have been true.

However, the Q&A session shows, in stark relief, what a truly appalling woman Truss is. Check it out, if you have the stomach for it…

Liz Truss Q&A at the Tory Conference 30/9/24

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Sep 24 - 11:12 AM

I have been having a discussion with a Tory friend (we have lots in common and don't fall out over politics) about the freebies and back handers to MPs. We both agree that it is ludicrous that it happens in any party. Whether any one is worse than another is debatable but the level of hypocrisy in the party that turned a blind eye to Johnson's (the biggest grifter of our time) undeclared shenanigans playing holier than thou with Starmer just about sums up their attitude to morality.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Sep 24 - 11:21 AM

Amen to that Dave, a thousand Amens.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Oct 24 - 02:26 AM

policies are more important than personalities, what is needed right now are some trade deals between the uk and europe.
Truss is a back number from the past she is unimportant, a careerist who was not very bright and who is not even an MP anymore.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Oct 24 - 03:54 PM

The Economist had an opinion page that was a hoot,
regarding the Conservative party and "swivel-eyed loons".

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: The Sandman
Date: 04 Oct 24 - 03:54 AM

“You may kill an artist or a thinker, but you cannot acquire his art or his thought. You may put a man to death because he loves his fellow-men, but you will not by so doing acquire the love which made his happiness. Force is impotent in such matters; it is only as regards material goods that it is effective. For this reason the men who believe in force are the men whose thoughts and desires are preoccupied with material goods.“
— Bertrand Russell, Political Ideals (1917), Ch. I: Political Ideals, p. 6

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 04 Oct 24 - 07:49 AM

That too a substantial chunk out of my day comparing and contrasting Russell's and Marx's views o force and materiality.