BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 20 Apr 08 - 06:54 AM

(there was a trend this way anyway btw. But I think the smoking ban is likely to be the final blow)

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Apr 08 - 07:27 AM

do you remember an inn, Miranda
do you remember an inn?


always sounded a bit of a poncy gaff to me. I used to think if I saw that sign behind the bar, GET YOUR JUMBO SAUSAGE HERE! i was in for a decent night. set the PA up in front of the dartboard, and if you're lucky - they stop playing darts.

Anyway if you hang round with blokes called Hillaire......

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: sapper82
Date: 20 Apr 08 - 08:31 AM

Well, with working away from home so much and, when I am home, simply being too bloody knackered to go out more than once a month (if that) despite having some good pubs in walking distance, I am, perhaps, part of the problem.
However, after last night up at the King's Head, Bonsall, with "No Fixed Abode" and a couple of weeks ago at the Rising Sun, Middleton, with "Norcsalordie," I've at least done something (about 10 or 11 pints worth) towards supporting local live music.

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: sapper82
Date: 20 Apr 08 - 08:33 AM

Just realised, as this is referring to live music in pubs, ought not the BS tag be removed and it be relocated?

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: the button
Date: 20 Apr 08 - 09:55 AM

The riverside inns of Wapping are visibly flagging since the smoking ban. I went past the Prospect of Whitby (somewhere where you can get a decent pint of TT's Landlord in London) at 7.30 on a Friday night, and the place was deserted.

Unfortunately, as a smoker I'm no longer likely to go sit in there and read my book or my paper anymore, or just go for a change of scene with my other ½ (also a smoker). Since the smoking ban, the only time I've been in pubs is as part of a "night out," rather than as a "fancy a couple down the road?"

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: theleveller
Date: 20 Apr 08 - 10:03 AM

Oh no, not the sodding smoking debate again? I suppose you want the drink/driving legislation repealed as well. We don't want the odd few thousand deaths to interfere with our pleasures, do we?

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 20 Apr 08 - 10:26 AM

Leveller, what's happened to your upholding for free speech?

Am I for example not allowed to respond to Kendall saying

"The No Smoking thing has not driven the addicts away here,in fact, many bar owners admit it has helped to draw the non smokers."

With my own observations?

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: Nick
Date: 20 Apr 08 - 01:11 PM

We support and also make money for the pub we frequent so it works mutually.

When Sam Smiths threw us out of the Blacksmiths Arms in Farlington I went and found another pub that would have us and it now has every Wednesday a good solid crowd of 25-40 people who come (compared with the handful that normally would be there) - mostly local but occasionally from some distance. It has spawned various other things and we play in there with our little rock band too sometimes and have organised some other things. Nice place to go to so if you are in North Yorkshire any Wednesday come and visit the Thompsons Arms in Flaxton (between Sheriff Hutton and the A64). We don't go out of our way to publicise it as word of mouth keeps it at a manageable size but everyone who wants to contribute or just listen is always welcome. The singing age range is from the 11 year old who sang the other week to the guy who has come occasionally to sing who is over 90.

The Blacksmiths Arms now does so little business generally apart from occasional parties that people don't bother to go in which is sad as it is a beautiful pub - compared with some people here on Mudcat will remember an evening where a group of local people and a truck load of friends from Beverley-Hull etc piled their way through 700 pints of beer in an evening (and early morning) and had a great time singing and playing music (nostalgia trip - 1 - 2 - 3. Sad that Humphrey Smith buggered it up otherwise we would still be there doing all sorts of things. For a village with only a handful of locals we definitely used to make a difference with our support.

I do sense though that pubs are looking for other things now than the mass rush to turn them all into eating establishments trying to dish out food for a fiver and that some of them are now amenable to music more than they were as an alternative to food and Sky.

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: theleveller
Date: 21 Apr 08 - 03:50 AM

Jon, of course you are - just getting a little bored with that line now. Sorry to sound grumpy, but we are covering well-trodden ground and .... I'll get me coat.

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: theleveller
Date: 21 Apr 08 - 04:20 AM

Nick, you're making me wish I'd bought that house in Flaxton. Humphrey Smith certainly has a lot to answer for; I was recently talking to the now ex-landlord at The Malt Shovel in Oswalkirk and he was saying that his wife wasn't even allowed to have the television on in the kitchen when she was cooking and they had to get a special dispensation for carol singers to come in at Christmas.

I went into the Jolly Sailors during Whitby Folk Week last year and there were two people sat in the bar. We were then told that they couldn't serve us because they didn't allow children in and we had our 8-year old with us. It's put me off going into any Sam Smith's pub now, which is a pity as they are usually great pubs with excellent beer. Does Humphrey Smith care? Of course not, he's sitting on millions of pounds worth of property.

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: kendall
Date: 21 Apr 08 - 08:16 AM

When I first went to the UK I( was struck by the atmosphere in the pubs. Children all over the places like a family outing. No rowdy behavior or Yobs trying to impress each other with their 4 letter words. They were quite pleasant to visit. (I was a smoker back then)
And now that nice part of the UK is going down the drain and it is sad.
They ban travelers, why not Yobs?

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: Gulliver
Date: 21 Apr 08 - 09:35 AM

Nick, those photos have been removed from the Blacksmiths Arms site. Are you interested in putting them up somewhere else (I love photos of music sessions)? Don

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 21 Apr 08 - 06:58 PM

I went to a singing workshop tonight followed by us all going down the pub
(in Leominster, a small town) for a sing and laugh. It was brilliant fun. My friend (fellow Loxley
member) got out his uke and a guitar, a song book and a lot of old songs that everyone just love to sing along to. We had a brilliant time. This was an unscheduled singing session and the customers in the pub loved it.

Just thought I'd share that with the group.

Sal

Subject: RE: BS: Come On You Miserable Lot in UK
From: skipy
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 06:06 PM

Can't be bothered anymore.
Skipy