BS: PMS Horror Stories

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: GUEST,Truthtroller
Date: 12 Apr 02 - 05:27 PM

Please!!!!!!!!!##%!not this thread again. You girls are bleeding all over my screen. There must be somewhere else you can do it. Isn't it bad enough we have to put up with it at home.

T.T.

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: michaelr
Date: 12 Apr 02 - 10:41 PM

Hi there, this is Michael's wife on the PMS thing, thanks for some intelligent and insightful messages. I do alot of the suggested such as Vitex or chasteberry, soy, progesterone cream (for years), female vites w/ B's etc, but I still get migraines cyclically, mostly around time of menses or just previous to, and can't beat them. Anyone have any helpful suggestions?

Patti

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 12 Apr 02 - 11:40 PM

I *used* to get migraines a looong time ago, and they too seemed mostly to arrive during or before my cycle. For me, watching out for all nutrition across the board all month long seemed to make a difference. Maybe extra iron would be good? Might be that you are suffering cyclical anemia.

Good luck with that one, and if you *do* find anything that works, let us know! I for one would be very interested in what worked.

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From:
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 11:55 AM

I am wondering if people who suffer from this and other female conditions are getting enough of the right kinds of fats, and cholesterol, which is the substrate for many hormones. Read up on Omega 3s and eat nuts and lots of salmon. Never eat margarine..it has a twisted shape and is very bad for blood vessels I hear. Dr. Mary Enig is a prominent fat researcher and has a couple of books out...Nourishing Traditions and Know your Fats...she is a great advocate of butter from grass-fed cows..particularly spring butter. She is also big on coconut oil. She is all over the internet.. So many women try to do these low-fat diets and the body needs fats, and it needs proteins. It needs no refined carbohydrates, (run from a nutritionist who tells you to eat pretzels) and a varying amount of whole food carbohydrates, depending on metabolism. You can't keep your hormonal system working right without the right fats and you can't keep your immune system working right without the right proteins, and enough of them. Also follow the Vitamin D research...we need sunlight and a fair amount of it..Krispin Sullivan is on the internet and has a lot of information about it. Stay away from flourescent lights and get lots of fresh air and clean water. mg

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: Amos
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 01:36 PM

Why is PMS like a new bicycle???

It JUST IS, OK?!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: gnu
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 02:18 PM

Any guys out there get in a bad mood around that time of the month ? I have heard it postulated that if a partner's PMS is severe and regular, one can get on a cycle of being in a bad mood along with the partner, whether it be "sympathetic" or "reactive". I believe this may have been so with my last partner, although the "mutual bad mood" became a daily occurrence near the end, usually lasting about sixteen hours per day.

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: michaelr
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 05:04 PM

Gnu - yes! I've found that around the time when Patti is gearing up for her period, I get cranky right along with her! It's mystifying... I don't know whether it's sympathetic, reactive, or apprehensive. She usually tells me, Hey, it's MY period - you don't get to be cranky.

Patti asked me to reiterate her question about the migraines. Wise women of the `Cat - any advice?

Michael

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: gnu
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 05:15 PM

I missed that about the headaches. Probably is common knowlegde, but I'll repeat it here just in case... often times, the grinding of teeth during sleep is cause for severe headaches, and is easily cured by the use of plastic jobbies - I don't remember the proper term - which shelter the teeth from the grinding against each other.

.....She usually tells me, Hey, it's MY period - you don't get to be cranky.....

Yup, I heard that too. Unfortunately, it don't work that way. Or, at least, it didn't when we broke up.

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 05:23 PM

I get hormone-linked migraines as well. (Weather also affects them.) I used to get them a lot more often, but I now take feverfew. I still get a couple a month, but the in-betweeners are almost non-existant and rarely turn into migraine hell. The headaches are about the same as they were when I was taking Elavil, and later Prozac - two anti-depressives which also work on migraines. No nasty side effects with the feverfew, though.

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: Peg
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 12:07 AM

um, guys I hate to break this to you, but MEN also have hormonal cycles that affect their moods and emotions; and their cycle is SHORTER than women's (avereage every 24 days) so they get cranky MORE often than women.

Just because you don't bleed doesn't mean you aren't ruled by your hormones every few weeks...

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: Amos
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 04:18 AM

Peg --

Thanks for understanding!! :>)

A

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 03:04 AM

add that to the fact that women who are breast feeding don't menstruate either right

HAAA HAAA HAAA!! I cannot believe there are still people in the world who think this is so!!!

Get it into your heads - Women DO ovulate and so menstruate whilst breast feeding - everyone who's ever gotten pregnant whilst feeding the first will tell you that.....

PMS IS now a fact of life - learn to deal with it or learn to live with it......

and yes, when there are a large number of women in close contact for a long time(prisons, schools, offices), and don't have sufficient male presence around, guess what, after a couple of months together, they all start to menstruate at the same time!!! If you're the only bloke in a group of 20 or so women, you get EVERYONE cranky at you at one time!! Nice eh?

LTS (guess what part of the cycle it is today.....)

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: JulieF
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 07:34 AM

Was Very, very bad in my teens - Two weeks out of five in misery. Then had a baby and started the combined contraceptive pill. I wouldn't say that I'm completely cured but its a case of if I feel bad I notice it as something unusual.

Does anyone have any idea if it is genetic. I've been watching my daughter like a hawk but she doesn't seem to be too bad.

Julie

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: lady penelope
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 02:20 PM

I started my menstral life with severe cramps and all the other usual symptoms and I didn't even know it could be painful etc! By my third period I felt like I was being cut in half for 3 days and I was tending to bleed longer and longer. It got up to ten days and stayed there. Unfortunately I didn't have what you could call a cycle, just somewhere between 2 - 9 weeks I would wake up like a bear in a Stephen King film ( I, of course didn't notice this, everyone else was just being annoying and wrong! ). At some point I would start having cramps and 10 - 120 minutes later the flood gates would open.

I was 12 when I started and they spent nearly four years trying to find an anti - spasmodic to help with the pain or any kind of pain killer, in fact. The crowning glory was my trip to the gynae. ( female - 60-ish ) who told me it would all be alright once I'd had a couple of babies! Boy was my Mum pissed! ( though my mother has never had any problems in this area, she's pretty sympathetic ). After reading the gynae the riot act, she and our family doctor decided to try me on the pill.

It worked. The pain was reduced to that of "can I have a hot water bottle and a couple of asprin?" and I was actually rational enough to notice that I did behave radically different just before my period. It also helped that I knew when it was coming!

Over the years I have found various things that each seem to help a bit. Cod liver oil, brewers yeast ( B5 tablets just made me feel continually nauseous after about ten days ) multivits, with iron & zinc. Geranium oil ( don't ask, someone suggested it was good for 'balancing' your system and it does seem to help keep a lid on the cramps ) drinking lots of water and the worst of all...........NOT EATING CHOCOLATE THE WEEK BEFORE!!!!

It's dreadful but it works ( when I stick to it ). The minute I start getting that combination of "I wanna tear your head off" and "I will now burst into tears at the drop of a fluffy kitten" feeling, you know, that moment when you think "I could just do with a nice bit of chocolate" ? that's when I have to stop. "Move away from the Dairy Milk" . If I can cold turkey for about 3 days, the craving falls off and , in fact, the nearer I get to my period the less I like sweet stuff anyway.

I will now leave you with my shame and go eat lasagne!

TTFN M'Lady P.

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: MMario
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 02:29 PM

PMS horror stories? five sisters. Need I say more?

Subject: RE: BS: PMS Horror Stories
From: Kim C
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 03:04 PM

I haven't noticed that I get headaches any more/less around That Time. Most of mine are sinus-related.

On the subject of food.... we try to eat as little processed food as possible. The downside - it's expensive. Trying to get organic or hormone/antibiotic-free anything is even MORE so, at least here in Tennessee. We used to garden, but have no time for that anymore. But we do what we can.

Yes, the chocolate orange that you whack on the table! I love them. I am not a big candy-eater, as a rule (I prefer ice cream), and having the chocolate in little slice-size pieces is great. One piece, maybe two tops, and I'm happy.

Before I went on the Pill, umpteen years ago, things were a LOT worse. It's only been since I passed 30 that a few other things have changed, namely the mood swings. 'Course, that may not be just because of hormones....... ;-)