BS: Best sandwich?

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:53 AM

Ham, Cheese, & Tomato, Toasted. (Closed style)

The trick is to get the right sort of cheese that has taste and melts, but is not too runny.

You can fake this in a Microwave, and it's quicker.

Make 2 pieces of toast, apply ingredients while still hot, (a tiny srape of Hot English Mustard adds to the taste!) place second toast slice on top, then place in M/V, and zap for the minumum time necessary to just melt the cheese.


Robin

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: mouldy
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 03:19 AM

Whenever I can, I get a brie/grape/apple sandwich, with a little green salad, on granary bread. Juicey!

Of course, my daughter loves cheese and marmite on any bread. (Ask Joe Offer!)

Andrea

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,sledge
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 05:19 AM

Bacon on toasted white crusty bread with HP sauce.

Cheers

Sledge

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Gurney
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 06:56 AM

At Frank Winter's wake, someone brought blue cheese and raw onion with plenty of butter, on white bread. I went back for more, but they had been discovered.
Hot chips/french fries with salt and malt vinegar. They must be hot to melt into the butter. (How people can eat chips without vinegar is beyond me.)


Here, the kids will make themselves vegemite/marmite/yeast extract butties! Some even like cold baked beans sammies! Good grief.

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 08:26 AM

both red onion jelly and Vidalia onion jelly are excellent - both can come in two varieties - sweet or savoury

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Morticia
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 08:40 AM

There is no excuse for raw onion of any description in my opinion.

Just had smoked salmon and cream cheese on ciabatta.....aside from the small inconvenience of now being lightly dusted in flour, it was a fabulous buttie.

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: sian, west wales
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:23 AM

Bacon and brie on a baguette, while the bacon is still hot enough to gooey the brie ... (((sigh)))

sian

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:29 AM

buttie?

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Morticia
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:45 AM

sorry, Ron..buttie is slang for sandwich here in the Chilly Isles ( U.K)

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:53 AM

*gasp* Morti! I never would have taken you for an anti-onion heretic!

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:53 AM

Vegemite - with thin slices of a granny smith (tarter rather than sweeter) apple...
Robin

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:30 PM

"Bacon on toasted white crusty bread with HP sauce"

Guest Sledge, enlighten me. What is HP sauce? Is that a puree of crushed printer?

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: M.Ted
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:34 PM

A bit of red onion on that salmon with cream cheese would have been perfect, Morticia--well, not perfect, to be perfect, it would have to be on a toasted New York bagel--a chocolate egg cream would make it more than perfect--

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:41 PM

M. Ted - wouldn't adding a chocolate egg cream make the bagel soggy?

Lox with cream cheese and chives....

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: M.Ted
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 02:13 PM

The egg cream would be gone before the bagel was even toasted--

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Morticia
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 02:36 PM

*hangs head in shame at causing such disappointment in a friend*....but I really do hate onion unless minced very, very finely and used as a flavouring in cooked things....otherwise it's just sick, bad and wrong.

HP sauce is a dark brown, savoury sauce which comes in a bottle....I think it's made of fruit....mostly....and Brits eat it with those things they don't smother in ketchup. Don't have much use for it myself except with Cornish Pasties.

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 02:40 PM

Vidalia onions rule!!!!!

I've learned to accept the onion in my life, and I really enjoy red onions on sandwiches. When I was kid I would run and hide from them, but as my tastebuds matured I discovered that they are indeed nature's candy!!!!   :)

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 06:53 PM

Where I come from (Montreal) Smoked meat IS A RELIGION! (And not my religion I might add)...even Goys will get into heated arguments about the merits of Ben's, Dunn's, Schwartz's etc.

You can come close in Toronto at a couple (only) of Delis but it ain't the same.

However........the best sandwich I EVER had was at a little Italian place on Clinton st. here: Hero bun, veal cutlet (fried) and tomato sauce. They've become a chain so faggedaboudit.

My fantasy sandwich is the Lobster bun as described by Kendall, but I only had one once, mmmmmmmm

As far as anything we make at home, Heather shows that "British touch" and does a lot of mashed banana stuff. Me? Grilled cheese.

Rick

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 07:38 PM

"There is no excuse for raw onion of any description in my opinion."
YES!

oh, Mortica, will you marry me?...no, wait, you have that all taken care of..and I have one wife already...but, you have a little part of my heart..*smile*

Onion is fine, used as flavoring in reasonable amounts and DISGUISED! I used to patronize an Italian shop for sandwiches, and had to complain LOUDLY, as adding onion was almost a knee-jerk reaction for this one guy...before I was finished, he would greet me by saying "oh yes...a big slice of RED onion beteween two slices of white onion!"

It is 'interesting' struggling with those whose idea of a recipe is to cut up an onion and then see what you have to go with it,,....

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 05:30 AM

HP sauce is a British invention, more like a BBQ sauce than tomato - I have a friend who is allergic to tomatoes, even in sauce, but can handle HP sauce - it comes in cute tallish distinctive square sided bottles with a screw plastic cap. It is available easily in Australia, and has been so for ages.

~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bill D - Raw onion has one great use.

Slice onion and raw ripe mangoes, mix, and let stand for a couple of hours in a cool place. A VERY little salt too is ok - too much and the whole thing dissolves into soup as the salt works - same way as icing sugar on strawberries turns them into juice.

Result - the raw onion taste disappears, and the mango gains a subtlety of flavour that is indescribly good. Don't tell your friends what it is until after they taste it or they will refuse most likely - once they have tasted it, most will be so intrigued that you will have to serve it every time they come over.

One of my aunties invented this in the 1950's - used to be the star dish at the CSIRO Sugar Cane Research Station Formal Dinners - always served when the State Governor and other such dignitories came for Formal Inspections.

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 06:57 AM

A hot Salt Beef sandwich.
Cheddar cheese and marmalade.
Hot Bagel and Lox with Cream Cheese
A well made BLT
All on brown bread, bar the bagel of course.

The first thing I had to eat in New York was Hot Pastrami on Rye, something that occurred in many books I'd read of the Mike Hammer school. So I took the subway to Grand Central Station, and turned left outside walked about 100 yards across the first intersection, and found a Deli, went in and ordered. It was really worth waiting for.

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 07:37 AM

Oh forgot!! HP stands for Houses of Parliament and there's a picture of them on the label, ironically it is now owned by Danone, a French company.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Nancy King at work
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 10:58 AM

Roast turkey with stuffing and cranberry sauce has long been a seasonal (week after Thanksgiving and week after Christmas...) favorite, but my real all-time fave is peanut butter and bacon on white toast.

Cheers, Nancy

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 12:20 PM

New York does have some good sandwich places. Katz's deli is (of course) Kosher, all meat, though you have to watch it or you get a lot of fat in the slice. It's down on the Lower East Side off Delancey.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Peter from Essex
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 12:58 PM

Salt beef washed down with a pint of Youngs in the Lord Clyde. If only they would serve that on Sundays it would make the English Music Sessions total heaven.

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Emma B
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 06:35 PM

Didn't know that HP is now owned by Danone I guess that explains the absence of "cette sauce de haute qualite est un melange des fruits orientales etc..."

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Helen
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 01:32 AM

I haven't read everyone's suggestions yet, but IMHO you can't beat a nasturtium leaf sandwich on fresh, soft white bread with butter.

Helen

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Helen
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 02:11 AM

Sandra,

Not a sandwich, but try this Middle Eastern recipe: slice some bananas and dates and smother them in cream. Put them in the frig for a couple of hours until all the flavours combine. Heaven!

Jeri,

Peanut butter - with tomato, or with crispy lettuce (my favourite), or with jam, or with honey, or with......... the choices are endless. After extolling the virtues of "peanut butter with" sandwiches someone once asked me if I hated peanut butter, meaning that I obviously needed to disguise the taste. Still haven't convinced hubby to be adventurous and try peanut butter & lettuce. If there is one thing I do before I die....... He doesn't know what he is missing.

BillD,

Have you been watching over my shoulder as I cook?   "It is 'interesting' struggling with those whose idea of a recipe is to cut up an onion and then see what you have to go with it,,...." By the time the onion has cooked I have had time to ferret out some other ingredients from the pantry, et voila! A meal!

Helen

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 04:00 AM

I'd like to point out that all of you are completely fucked up. I have eaten a majority of the delights listed here and some are truly excellent, but as to the BEST sandwich........There can be no doubt. If you have been to New Orleans and not eaten a Muffuletta, than I don't know why you were in New Orleans.

The "Muffy" is the complete sandwich with so many strong flavors that the end result is a true taste treat all it's own and second to none. They aren't cheap to prepare but your friends will think you are the world's greatest short order cook and a creative genius. Let's make one.......First prepare the "Olive Salad" mixture.

Olive Salad:
2/3 cup pitted and coarsely chopped green olives
2/3 cup pitted and coarsely chopped black olives
2/3 cup pearl onions, halved or whole
1/2 cup chopped pimiento
3 garlic cloves, minced fine
1 anchovy fillet, mashed
1 tablespoon capers
1/3 cup finely chopped parsley
1 teaspoon oregano
1/4 teaspoon coarse ground or cracked black pepper
1/2 cup olive oil

Mix the above in a glass bowl. This mixture is the key to the exotic taste.
Now you will need:
1 large loaf fresh Italian bread (round loaf preferred)
1/3 pound hard salami, sliced thin
1/3 pound Cappicola ham, sliced thin
1/3 pound Prosciutto ham, sliced thin
1/3 pound Provolone cheese, sliced thin
1/3 pound Mozzarella cheese, sliced thin
1/3 pound Alpine Lace Swiss, sliced thin
Thin slices of red onion
Thin slices of tomato
Finely chopped lettuce

Time to assemble the sandwich!!!!

Slice bread in half and hollow out both pieces---you have a lot of ingredients! Starting on the lower crust, spoon in a liberal amount of the Olive Salad. Now a layer of the first meat, a layer of the first cheese, a layer of the second meat, a layer of the second cheese, a layer of the third meat, a layer of the third cheese. Now add a layer each of the red onion, lettuce and tomato and reverse the previous process (Cheese 3,meat 3, cheese2, meat 2, cheese 1, meat 1) and top with Olive Salad. Put on the top crust.

Wrap in foil and bake in a 375 oven for 15-20 minutes on each side. Slice and eat.............and enjoy!!!! THere is no better sandwich.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 05:40 AM

Spaw that's a deli in a loaf not a sandwich.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 09:27 AM

But hey, it will serve 4 people!!!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Amos
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 10:00 AM

My gawd, Spaw!! You have way too much time on your hands! LOL!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Morticia
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 10:21 AM

Dear heavens, you could feed a third world country with that sandwich, Spaw!

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 10:18 PM

Joe Offer, this counts as a food thread, and look at the recipe that appeared! Looks like this one needs to be linked to our growing list of seasonal cooking threads.

I haven't read the thread for a couple of days so I don't know if this one has been covered, but I must admit my delight the first time I sat and ate a hot turkey sandwich (open face hot turkey with gravy over the top) in front of the kids. They thought it looked "really gross, Mom!" I made each of them take a taste--and I was lucky to get any of the rest of it for myself. I don't make them often, but the room is silent except for knives and forks clinking on the plates when we have them for dinner!

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 11:32 PM

SRS, if your kids like that openface, pathetic thing, they will become orgasmic over Kentucky Hot Brown. Originally I gather it used pullet breasts, but that has been replaced with turkey. The following is my best recipe for making eight at a time in a baking dish.

SPAW'S KENTUCKY HOT BROWN

---You will need enough turkey for eight 2-layer sandwiches, preferably sliced white, although dark slices work well too....a matter of taste.
---Start by cooking one pound or more of bacon in a skillet. Cook soft and don't overcook as you will be baking it later. You need at least 20 strips of bacon
---While the bacon is frying, toast 24 slices of good bread. Use good bread, sourdough is excellent.
---Set aside the bacon strips and now lightly brown the turkey in the bacon grease. Just a bit on the crispy side.
---Set aside the browned turkey and use an appropriate amount of flour, salt, and water to make the grease into a thick gravy. Add a tablespoon of Worcestershire Sauce and a tablespoon or more of Cayenne Pepper Sauce. Add black pepper and garlic powder to taste, about a teaspoon each. Salt to taste.
---As the gravy cooks, add one package of frozen peas.


YOU ARE NOW READY TO ASSEMBLE
---You will need at least 4 cups of a sharp cheddar, shredded. Also cut your bacon strips in half to divide them up.
---Put a thin layer of the gravy on the bottom of the pan.
---Arrange eight slices of toasted bread on the bottom of the pan.
---Now put a bit of gravy on each slice of bread, then sliced turkey on this first layer, followed by a layer of cheese, bacon strips on each sandwich, then a layer of gravy.
---Put the second slice of bread on each sandwich and repeat what you did on the first layer.....a bit of gravy, turkey slices, cheese, bacon strips, gravy ... and then top with the final slices of bread.
---Cover the top slice of bread with gravy, bacon slices, and then a layer of cheese.
---Bake at 375 for about a half hour and then let stand for at least 15 minutes before serving.


SERVE AND EAT !!!!!!!

Now I gotta' tell you that if this ain't the best damn thing to do with leftover turkey, then I don't know what is!!! Don't scrimp on the turkey or any of the other ingredients. The only reason I cook turkey is to make Hot Brown and Turkey Pie. Enjoy!!!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 12:59 AM

OK Bill D, this one's for you... :-)

Sounds like you know about this bit of "secret cooks business" :-)

I have a friend who says her grandmother had one guaranteed cooking trick.

If she had been busy, and had not had time to have dinner cooked and on the table when the working men returned to the homestead in the evening, she would put just an onion on to fry in a pan, even if absolutely nothing else had been done about starting to prepare other food.

The men would smell the cooking onion, and not hassle her about not having dinner on the table, as they (being smart guys that they were), could tell that dinner was not far off, and would wash up, have a beer, chat about the day's work, and plan tomorrow, etc.

The by the time she called them, they would usually say that they were not ready for dinner yet...

:-)

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Gurney
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 03:37 AM

And on the terminology, sarnie, sammie, wad, buttie, they are all the same thing. A dagwood is a thick buttie in Oz and NZ. I've heard them called a wedge, but money seems to have replaced that usage.

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ringer
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 06:20 AM

If you are going to use bread and cheese, it is, apparently, important to get the thickness of the cheese-slice correct. Different thicknesses for different cheeses. Came across this just this morning: Click Here

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Sooz (at work)
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 07:55 AM

I thought the whole point of a sandwich was that you didn't need cutlery and could hold it in your hand without making a mess! Many of these use more utensils and time than a full meal.

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Strollin' Johnny (trying to stay awake at wo
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 08:29 AM

You need at least a knife to cut the bread. Also, try cutting meat with your bare hands! (Sorry Sooz, sacrilege to mention the M-word I know, but some of us just lurve the stuff!)

The Elvis fried peanut butter and banana sarnie is the dog's bollox (so I'm told - never having had the pleasure) and wouldn't offend veggies??

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Peg
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 10:02 AM

nice open-faced sandwich recipe from the Moosewood cookbook:

Broccoli and Friends
Dice broccoli and onions finely and saute in butter with some salt, pepper, basil and thyme. Cook until broccoli is bright green and onions are translucent. Place on a slice of hearty bread (fresh baked sourdough is nice) and top with grated cheddar cheese, then broil until melted and bubbly. Make at least two.

I guess you could put meat in this but it's very nice as is.

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 10:10 AM

I was driving in New Paltz, NY yesterday and saw a restaurant whose theme was grilled cheese sandwiches! Talk about specialities!

I didn't have a chance to stop, but on the way home I picked up a loaf of potato bread, Velvetta cheese (it's a must!), and some bacon. A great sandwich!

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 10:21 AM

Spaw, your recipe sounds better than the original Hot Brown recipe I got from the niece of a cook at the Brown Hotel (where it originated)! Around here they even sell special Hot Brown oven-safe crockery dishes on which to serve the Hot Browns.

Lately I've been eating salami sandwhiches, open-faced, toasted on wheat bread, with American cheese, tomato, and horseradish mustard. The mustard is important.

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 10:28 AM

Good god, Spaw, that thing will send you to coronary central in a hurry! (Sounds great, but I would only be able to eat a couple of bites before it was too rich for me! Can you make it with soy cheese?)

I didn't tell you that the turkey breast I use has always been selected to be free of the whatever-percent solution they often inject into poultry (compensating because they presume that we will over cook it and that it needs tons of salt). I smoke it with some nice hickory or mesquite chips in my smoker, usually one pan is enough, for about an hour and a half. I bake it to perfection, keeping all of the drippings, and the nice smoky flavor goes into the gravy. It usually goes atop fresh homemade whole wheat bread.

It may not have tons of layers and be as labor intensive as yours, but with the quality of the ingredients, less is more!

It's an overcast rainy day here in Texas. Time for something warm and filling for dinner. Maybe I'll head over to the store and see if I can't find myself a nice turkey breast to smoke for dinner. Some nice chard from the garden on the side, and baked potatoes. Then tomorrow I'll make a loaf of bread and we'll have the turkey sandwiches. Mmmmmmm. . .

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 10:37 AM

Well, all the talk of onions (not to mention broccoli, Peg) is pretty off-putting. I won't go through my "Why onions ruined my life" story again, but just seeing the word is starting to make me sick, so I should be off to my therapist's any minute now.

What is salt beef?

Rick

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 11:03 AM

I'll have Rick's onions please. Onions are also a great source of fiber!   They are truly nature's candy!   Slice a vidalia and go to town!

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 12:15 PM

An ointment that is all the rage for scar treatment (will considerably reduce them, even old scars) is called Mederma. The active ingredient is onion! They've treated it to reduce the scent, but you can still tell when you smell it. My plastic surgeon (who treated a bad cat bite a couple of years ago) said if I ate an onion a day I'd probably get the same effect.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 12:42 PM

ah, Robin..*grin*..If **I** came home to the smell of fried onion, I'd head off to the local Chinese takeout! (after serving divorce papers!)....well, not really, and sometimes she does cook some onion for herself and the kid, but usually it's just small amounts to mix thoroughly into a recipe, and I can tolerate that.

I do have a friend who totally despises ANYTHING with onion in it and can detect amounts that usually require laboratory analysis.

and Rick...I ordinarily hate broccoli and related veggies, but my mother-in-law made a broccoli casserole that was served over rice that I not only could eat, but asked for more...*shrug*...you never know...

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 01:04 PM

Wow... I am shocked at the anger against the flavor-filled onion!!!   Picky eaters!!!!!

Fry em up or serve em raw!!! Finest kind!!

Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 01:25 PM

Ron - I'm surprised too; after all onion-ness is next to garlick-ness; and everyone knows that garlick is the food of the gods.