BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: kendall
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 05:12 PM

Guest, Jacqui is my wife. She is not an employee or a slave. If I told her where to go, she would return the suggestion, and that's as it should be unless you are a redneck, a control freak or a Muslim.
I try to set a good example, but she is a free agent and she's entitled to make her own mistakes.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Once Famous
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 05:30 PM

Wal-Mart sells the same brand names as everyone else for less.

They sell CDs for less

They sell brand name sundries and drug store items for less.

They sell brand name food products for less.

They sell brand name automotive supplies for less.

They sell brand name hardware items for less.

If you want to spend more for the same thing elsewhere that's your business. But it's none of yours where I spend mine and how I save money that I work for.

The Wal-Mart I was in last week was doing just fine with out the few old hippies and anti-capitalists here who's money doesn't go as far based on mostly a lot of blowhard principal.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: bbc
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 05:43 PM

You're not likely to get as many folks admitting to shopping at Walmart as those putting it down, since the general opinion on Mudcat is well-known. Why target oneself? I find the selection & prices at Walmart to be good & shop there regularly.

bbc

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 05:47 PM

Guest, Jacqui is my wife. She is not an employee or a slave. If I told her where to go, she would return the suggestion, and that's as it should be unless you are a redneck, a control freak or a Muslim.

Good to see that your racism is free of sexism. I hope CarolC doesn't get on your case.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Once Famous
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 05:48 PM

Or on your face, either.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 05:50 PM

Wot's wrong with him sayin' he ain't a redneck?

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: GUEST,wayne monroe
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 06:01 PM

I shop at WalMart on a regular basis although I don't necessarily enjoy the experience. Noise, difficulty in moving around the store, waiting in the checkout line, etc.
Wal Mart is an irresistible target for politicians and others but they are, after all, an employer of last resort for many people.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Bearheart
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 06:13 PM

If you lived in a small town like I do, and saw your neighbors' businesses going under, and them losing their livlihoods, you'd know why I don't shop there. I thought this little university town would never attract a Wal-Mart, but I was wrong. A lot of people fought it, but we couldn't keep it out. Several locally owned grocery stores, and other businesses, have gone under. Many others are hanging on by the skin of their teeth. And that only because a higher proportion than average of the townspeople have decided not to shop at Wal-Mart.

The reason you probably don't see this dynamic in larger towns is that other chains drove out the little people long ago-- or the product they sell is so unusual that there isn't a cheap alternative.

I don't have a huge income and I'm self-employed-- but I prefer to go to the farmer's market and the local health food store and other local venders. I just don't want it on my conscience that my neighbors can't make a living in their hometown. Like someone else said, quality is better than quantity-- I don't need a lot of cheap stuff cluttering my house-- what I do need is a healthy community and a healthy lifestyle, and that includes being able to live with myself.

As to better prices and a greater selection-- that will last until Wal-Mart drives the competition out of business-- which is their only aim-- then you'll be paying whatever they decide to charge you. One of the Wal-Mart strategies is to come into a smaller community, drive everyone else out of business, then leave, and you then have to go to the next town over, where there is still a Wal-Mart, to get your goods. By that time it's too late to shop somewhere else, you have no options.
Bekki

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 07:38 PM

"Wal-Mart sells the same brand names as everyone else for less."
F#ckin 'Zactly!!!   As a matter of fact, I find most Wal-Marts have MORE options and brands than ANY 'mom & pop' store I've ever been in...

"saw your neighbors' businesses going under"
That's nature for you... the strong survive and the weak die...

"then you'll be paying whatever they decide to charge you."
Unfounded paranoia....

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 07:50 PM

Bearheart: "then you'll be paying whatever they decide to charge you."
CH: "Unfounded paranoia...."

Tell that one to the oil companies.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 07:51 PM

Wal-Mart is NOT an oil company...

d'uh

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 07:58 PM

No kidding. Doh!

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Bearheart
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 08:35 PM

Then there's this:
If you want to spend at the cheap places you still have some options. If you want to support a progressive agenda, check out the companies who supported the Dems in the last election. And the ones who donated to the other side:


> * Price Club/Costco donated $225K, of which 99% went


> to democrats;


> * Rite Aid, $517K, 60% to democrats;


> * Magla Products (Stanley tools, Mr. Clean), $22K,


> 100% to democrats;


> * Warnaco (undergarments), $55K, 73% to democrats;


> * Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia, $153K, 99% to


> democrats;


> * Estee Lauder, $448K, 95% to democrats;


> * Guess ? Inc., $145K, 98% to democrats;


> * Calvin Klein, $78K, 100% to democrats;


> * Liz Claiborne, Inc., $34K, 97% to democrats;


> * Levi Straus, $26K, 97% to democrats;


> * Olan Mills, $175K, 99% to democrats.


> * Gallo Winery, $337K, 95% to democrats;


> * Southern Wine & Spirits, $213K, 73% to democrats;


> * Joseph E. Seagrams & Sons (includes beverage


> business, plus considerable media interests), $2M+,


> 67% democrats.


> * Sonic Corporation, $83K, 98% democrat;


> * Triarc Companies (Arby's, T.J. Cinnamon's, Pasta Connections),


> $112K, 96% Democrats;


> * Hyatt Corporation, $187K, 80% to democrats;


>

> AGAINST US:


> WalMart, $467K, 97% to republicans;


> K-Mart, $524K, 86% to republicans;


> Home Depot, $298K, 89% to republicans;


> Target, $226K, 70% to republicans;


> Circuit City Stores, $261K, 95% to republicans;


> 3M Co., $281K, 87% to republicans;


> Hallmark Cards, $319K, 92% to republicans;


> Amway, $391K, 100% republican;


> Kohler Co. (plumbing fixtures), $283K, 100%


> republicans;


> B.F. Goodrich (tires), $215K, 97% to republicans;


> Proctor & Gamble, $243K, 79% to republicans;


> Coors, $174K, 92% to republicans; (also Budweiser -


> sd)


> Brown-Forman Corp. (Southern Comfort, Jack Daniels, Bushmills, Korbel


> wines - as well as Lennox China, Dansk, Gorham Silver), $644, 80% to


> republicans; Pilgrim's Pride Corp. (chicken), $366K, 100%


> republican;


> Outback Steakhouse, $641K, 95% republican;


> Tricon Global Restaurants (KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell),


> $133K, 87% republican;


> Brinker International (Maggiano's, Brinker Cafe,


> Chili's, On the


> Border, Macaroni Grill, Crazymel's, Corner Baker,


> EatZis), $242K, 83% republican;


> Waffle House, $279K, 100% republican;


> McDonald's Corp., $197K, 86% republican;


> Darden Restaurants (Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Smokey


> Bones, Bahama Breeze), $121K, 89% republican;


> Mariott International, $323K, 81% to republicans;


> Holiday Inns, $38K, 71% to republican

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: kendall
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 09:04 PM

Racism? Me? surely you jest, Guest. If you know anything about Muslims, you know that Muslim women do as they are told by their husbands. That is all I said, so stop reading in something that is not there. I am not a racist.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 09:58 PM

I shopped once at a Wal-Mart in a small, mid-western town. Wal-Mart was the only place in the area I could get what I needed, because all the other stores that sold the item had been driven out of business by The Big Box. It was good that the item was cheap, because it fell apart within three days. I had to hold it together with duct tape until I could get to a bigger city with civilized stores and get a decent one.

Piece of crap. I'd rather pay a bit more and get something that will last for more than three days.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: M.Ted
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 10:26 PM

I hate Walmarts--they tend to be dirty and unpleasant, and the folks who work there tend not to be very motivated to help you out. The prices are competitive, but the savings are often on the line of
WalMart-- $2.97 and the place across the way--$2.99--

The business about WalMart driving out Mom and Pop businesses is dubious--the genius of WalMart was to build an empire by putting stores in all those cookie cuttersprawl areas where there there were 5,000 new housing units built a year with nowhere to shop--

The older, established stores that have been "driven out" have tended to serve older, shrinking, communities, and generally were pretty shaky before WalMart came along--

Like it or not, the simple truth is that the folks who move into the sprawl communities want the stuff that Walmart/Target/Circuit City/Red Lobster/Chilli's have, not the stuff that the merchants in the older strip malls have.

Marketing and merchandising follow the Tao, just like everything else, and if you don't change to accomodate the market, you lose--


Even still, I hate WalMart--and remember, if you don't shop at WalMart, you reduce your risk of running in to Martin Gibson--

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: robomatic
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 11:05 PM

I have yet to see a dirty Wal-Mart.

Tonight's latest presentation of the Simpsons contained reference to Homer getting a job at the "Sprawl-Mart" which had a sign out front that said: "If you worked here, you'd be poor now."

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 11:08 PM

For $10,000 you can know what Walmart knows.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: robomatic
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 11:17 PM

What we need to do is fund overseas union organizers using our profits from Walmart stock.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: GUEST,ragdall
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 01:23 AM

It isn't easy for two people to live on one old age pension. I shop at any store that has low prices, including Wal*mart. They sell the same brands as other stores, but the prices are lower.

One concept I'm having difficulty understanding is the belief that if we refuse to buy items produced by "slave workers" in an Asian country, it will improve the lives of those workers. If they lose the market for their goods, who will step in and pay the higher wages to those people and how?

North American trade unions are leading the campaign to urge consumers to boycott those goods and buy union made products. Would this not provide, or secure, more jobs for their union members, while denying the "slave laborers" the only livelihood that they have?

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Boab
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 01:32 AM

Been in this small town fifteen years, been in Macdonald's once [with foreign visitors] and never once in Walmart.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: dianavan
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 03:22 AM

Ragdoll - Union's create jobs in America. When jobs are shipped overseas, the labour force at home suffers. You must also take into account the cost to the environment in transporting large quantities of goods.

WalMart doesn't care about its workers in the States, why would they care anymore about workers in China? WalMart only cares about profit. They are working very hard to improve their image but you can bet that its only skin deep.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: GUEST,ragdall
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 06:23 AM

Ragdoll - Union's create jobs in America. When jobs are shipped overseas, the labour force at home suffers.

dianavan,
I agree that is the real concern of the unions.

The literature they were handing out expressed a humanitarian concern about ending the plight of underpaid, and often underaged, workers overseas, by refusing to buy their products.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 06:56 AM

I do shop at Walmart. Walmart is the closest store to my home (11 miles). I do shop the sales at the other "nearby" stores when their prices are better.

Do I *like* Walmart? No, not particularly but they do save us money. We haven't had any trouble with "crap" falling apart at all. Even if we did, Walmart will take just about anything back and you can get your money back. They have a store brand food that has an unconditional guarantee....I have used it and was given my money back promptly without a hassle. Most of the store brand stuff has been good (some even better than the name brand), so the occassional return doesn't bother me one bit.

I shop a variety of stores and go quite out of the way to shop them, but when Walmart has better prices, that is where I go and will continue to go.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: ejsant
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 06:57 AM

"...and I owe my soul to the company store"

We really haven't gotten to far after all, have we?

Peace,
Ed

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Once Famous
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 11:08 AM

Congratulations to Mudcatters who have the nerve to say they shop at Wal-Mart and not care what some of the Marxist snobs of Mudcat think.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 11:09 AM

I shop at Asda (WalMart in the UK) all the time. Good quality produce. Very good value. Exceptionaly good on 'no quibble' guarantees with 3 years free on TVs and 1 year on other electrical equipment.

I have also known a few people that work there and they unanimously agree it is the best place they have worked at, with flexible hours good pay and prospects and a good management structure. The only thing I have reservations about, but this applies to all large chains and not just Asda, is the damage they do to small suppliers who's profits are forced down and down until they can no longer trade.

I went to a couple of WalMarts in the States and they are as different to Asda as the UK is to the US!

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 11:14 AM

I would agree with Dave - Asda and Walmart are very different.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Amos
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 11:20 AM

Brucie, that is obscene!!! I doubt it costs them $5000 to produce such a report. Awful.


A

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: M.Ted
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 12:00 AM

I still haven't figured out why someone who is as well off as you claim to be is so fond of the distinctly proletarian WalMart--It isn't exactly a hangout for the Republican Corporate set--

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: dianavan
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 12:32 AM

Because WalMart pays Marty to install Spyware? ;>)

Seriously, Lilyfestre - Think about the price of gasoline and tell me if the 22 mile trip is worth saving a few pennies.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: open mike
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 01:20 AM

ok just checked..

sweat shirt-Turkey
Bra-U.S.A.
Underpants-Honduras
pants-Hong Kong

didn't realize i had
clothes made in so
many diff. places

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: open mike
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 01:31 AM

oh , and i get pet food at Mall Wart,
but that's about all. Sometimes cassette
tapes cuz costco stopped carrying them a
couple of years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Peace
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 04:30 AM

"How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?"

My guess is 27.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Alba
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 04:46 AM

Well Brucie it is actually 29 according to these nice Folks: FYI

*bg*
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Peace
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 04:48 AM

LOLOLOL

Tears in my eyes. I didn't know what to expect, but that t'weren't it.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 05:46 AM

Out of interest our TV packed in sometime between switching it off on Sunday and turning it on on Monday. We bought it from Asda in June 2002 with a free 3 year warranty. Took it bak yesterday - No quibbles qualms or anything. Ended up getting a new one while we were there - Panasonic flat screen jobby - very nice too. Only 1 year warranty this time though and I did need to pay the £70 difference in price.

Now, got it back and found it was a little too deep and I will have to adjust our fitted shelf or change the TV for a slimmer one (Which Asda will do withing 28 days should the need arise.) Scouring the net for dimensions I found it was about the slimmest standard TV, at 51cm, anyway but I then found that Currys have the same TV on offer, with a free stand for £40 less.

Asda are currently advertising if you see the same product for less anywhere they will refund twice the difference. I'm going to test it out. At best I will get £80 and at worse I will return it and save £40 anyway:-) I'll keep you posted.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 06:40 AM

Dianavan,

   Because Walmart is THE CLOSEST store to my home and because they do have lower prices, it sure is worth it to me. I drive a bit farther (sometimes up to 40 miles) to shop the sales at OTHER stores....so Walmart is even saving me on gas money. I think you read my post backwards.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 06:42 AM

You know what, that's just crazy that I would even justify why I shop where I do. We all have our reasons for what we do, usually it's we do what we do because it is best for US.

Enough said.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: dianavan
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 12:43 AM

Michelle - I wasn't sure if you were saying that WalMart was closer or that the "local" stores were closer. Thanks for the clarification.

If you don't want to talk about where you shop, why did you post to this thread? If you want to support WalMart, go ahead. Its your conscience. Enough has been said that it should be abundantly clear that they are not good, corporate citizens. Its a matter of putting your money where your mouth is.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 01:14 AM

IF I can't find it in this small burg where I live I will go to Wal Mart first. It's 30 miles away, but I often hit the smaller stores in that town too. Esp the health food store. Only a very few things are enough cheaper at Wal Mart to bother with for me.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 05:20 AM

Damn! First disappointment - It was only refund the difference. Second disappointment - Doesn't apply to web based offers. third disappointment - Bought a multi-function remote control to get rid of the TV/Cable/Video/DVD - Doesn't work with the new TV:-(

Ah well - Things come in 3's. Thats it now. Nothing lost. I'll take the remote back today and get a shirt (just spilt bacon grease on mine. Oh no! Is this the start of another 3?)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 07:29 AM

Dianavan,

   Others have stated their reasons without criticism, yet you feel the urge to have something to say to me about this. How many other folks do you think you should talk to?   How about you come over to my house and YOU do the budgeting and YOU pay the bills and see what YOU have leftover, k?

Some of us DO live on a budget and would prefer to spend our hard earned cash on something besides groceries. For me, that would be tuition, diabetic medication, insurance, heat....you know...all the FUN stuff.

If we all shopped according to our principles, you would be more like me in doing the best you can to raise your food (meat, veggies and fruit) organically.

So yes, I do shop Walmart for the things I need that are not on sale at the other nearby stores. I don't feel bad about it one bit. Nice try though.
Cheers.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Once Famous
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 05:46 PM

Good one Lilyfestre.

dianavan is either pretty rich or pretty dumb.

Actually I think she just likes to whine about anything American.

Plenty here have her pegged.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: number 6
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 06:19 PM

Walmart's aisles are too narrow, place is crowded, congested, checkout lines are too long. Not worth going to to save 22 cents on a box of Tide.

I once was going to buy some Michelin tires at Walmart. They were considerably cheaper than anywhere else. I was told by the Walmart tire guys that Michelin would not cover the warranty, only Walmart would. Hmmmm, I guess these were Michelin tires that were not up to Michelin standards, made to Walmart specifications. Well that swayed my decision not to buy these cheaper Michelins, or Walmarts or whatever they were. Went to a mom and pop shop, paid a reasonable price, but higher than what Walmart was offering. Got me some Michelins, with Michelin standards and a Michelin warranty to boot. So, what gives with the rest of Walmart products. Cheaper but made to WalMart's lower standards. I dunno, makes me wonder.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Nemesis
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 06:28 PM

I think Walmart and here in UK Tesco - are a con ... Tesco have just made £2 billion profit while their fruitpickers in South Africa are living in cardboard boxes and in the fields at the same time as pesticides are being sprayed...

We're just conned into an ever cheaper "cost of living" which means OUR employers don't need to pay us what would be a living wage if we had to pay others to have a living wage for what they produce..

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 07:21 PM

Wal-Mart used to advertise heavily that they sold "Made in USA" goods whenever possible ~ and they did. You don't hear that any more; perhaps since the founder died?

Avoiding Wal-Mart will not give you any more or less chance of buying stuff made overseas, in whole or in part, by cheap labor. That's what's on the market everywhere.

I used to go to the local Wal-Mart quite often, but less so now. It is still my main source for underwear, socks, stationery, peat moss, cypress mulch, and bedding plants. Since we finally got a Target store in our area, the missus patronizes Wal-Mart much less often than before. We usually make a run to Sam's (Wal-Mart affiliate) about once a month for a few things we buy in bulk.

The new Wal-Mart "superstores" (which now include groceries) are clean and bright and spacious; the older stores are a bit more cramped and sometimes dingy.

To my mind, the worst thing about the giant chainstores is the impact upon small local businesses ("Mom and Pop" stores). I think it's stupid to single out WM, though ~ even for those of us who disagree with how the corporation distributes its politcal contributions. As has been mentioned, the impact of Home Depot and Lowe's upon local hardware merchants is probably worse; your neighborhood hardware guy has usually been the source of some real expertise that will be missed when he's gone.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Bev and Jerry
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 07:59 PM

PoppaGator:

Thanks for sharing with us where you buy your underwear. We were wondering (just kidding).

The reason Walmart gets singled out so much is their procurement policy. They are the biggest corporation in this galaxy and they carry nearly everything. If you manufacture something that sells at retail you must deal with them. They buy a million of your widgets at some price and sell them at a profit. When it's time to re-order, they tell you that you now must sell it to them for 20% less than last time. You say that is impossible and they tell you go come back when you've figured out how to do it.

So, if you were making your widgets in the U.S., you change to off shore manufacturing to reduce your cost. If you were already manufacturing off shore, you search for an even cheaper sweat shop.

Because their so big, they drive the entire industry to cheaper and cheaper manufacturing.

Bev and Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Once Famous
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 09:59 PM

Suppliers to Wal-Mart get levereged for a best price and they may grumble about it but business is business. What they do love is the competitve and demographic information that Wal-Mart provides for them that helps them in penetrating new markets and enables them to develop new products.

Really gang. Wal-Mart is the greatest marketing organization the world has ever known. Business is about making money and profits. The biggest whiners here evidently don't work in business, or really understand much about the world of business.

Subject: RE: BS: How many Mudcatters shop at Wal Mart?
From: Bev and Jerry
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 11:50 PM

Yes, Martin, business is about making money and profits but the recipe should also include a dash of ethics and a bit of concern for the good of society as a whole. Walmart forgot that part.

Bev and Jerry