What is a 'sesh'?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: GUEST,Mr Red in mischievious mood
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 11:08 AM

if we say it we can say session, if we type an abbr. we all understand - what's the prob.? 'praps we should add the full stop just to please the pedants.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 11:13 AM

I agree, this thread should be in the music section.

Wolfgang - it is a U.S. tradition to give towns nickames.   Even Chicago is called Chi Town!

I'm curious why people are consider it "dumbing down" when words are abbreviated? It's our language, let's have fun with it! Screw the rules!!! Calling it a "sesh" is cute and easily recognizable.

I wonder the origin's of "sesh" have anything to do with the similarity to the word Feis?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 11:14 AM

'praps we should add the full stop just to please the pedants.

Ahhhhh ..... childhood memories. Having grown up in Western Michigan, a favorite summertime game was to be found in the sand dunes along Lake Michigan. We would go to the top of the dunes, with a small piece of cardboard and play 'praps. You would get a running start and jump on the piece of cardboard, sliding down the sand dunes. The name came from the fact that 'praps you would get sand in the crack of yer arse, and 'praps you wouldn't.

I'll get me cap.

Mick

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 11:35 AM

Ron,

I wasn't serious.
It is a normal process in all languages that often used words get shorter. Automobil became Auto in German, Fahrrad (bicycle) became Rad and even Kaiserslautern (K-town) is often called Lautern now in spoken German. Amerikaner we often just call 'Ami(s)' (pron: ummy) BTW.

Wolfgang (being glad about the shortening of LlanfairPG by the Brits; sorry about that)

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 12:45 PM

Aye Big Mick! The game wez caaled that up on Tyneside in UK as well - Must've been taken/brought ower by the immigrants

Me da' aalways referred to his mate's 'plus-four' trousers as 'FOF's'

They were tied at the knee 'fo' fear he'd sh*t himself'

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 02:47 PM

Paul Burke, thanks for clearing up the 'seisiun' origin.
My Irish-English dictionary says it means a 'session, or a get-together'.
Sounds like a direct lift from the English as opposed to a translation, of which 'ceili' would make more sense.

Seamus

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 02:58 PM

alliterate LOL

Sorry, but that's how long it took me. Bit more than half a minute this time. There must be something in this thread that makes me slow.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 10:27 AM

There must be something in this thread that makes me slow.

And I suggest we know what it is. For (some time ago in this thread you did ask us:

And what was wrong with Lysergsäure-diethylamid?

Perhaps you have answered your own question there?

Was it it good one Wolfgang?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: GUEST,Paul Burke lost his biscuit
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 10:42 AM

'ceili' would make more sense says Peter Kennedy. But that's already spoken for by the dancers, and we wouldn't want any of them in the seisiun, would we? And there might be objections from Regina Ceili, better known as the Bergin Mary.

It would be interesting to consult Dinneen on this if Myles naG is anything to go by. He took apart a review of a piano recital, written in the Irish Times in Irish, which referred to the soloist as a 'pianador'- pointing out that the only meaning Dinneen ascribes to the word is 'torturer'.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 11:40 AM

'praps we should add the full stop just to please the pedants.

You don't need a full stop, because it's a contraction, not an abbreviation.

Is that pedantic enough for you?

S.M.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Snuffy
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 12:41 PM

but 'praps the apostrophe is the wrong place.

Or p'r'aps there should even be two

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Mr Red
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 06:54 AM

abbreviation
The result of abbreviating; a reduced form; an abridgement. A shortened form of a word, phrase, or symbol.

abridgement
1 The act or process of abridging; shortening; curtailment; an instance of this.

contraction
1 The action of contracting; the state of being contracted; decrease in extent, shortening, shrinking, narrowing; limitation; esp. (a) shortening of a muscle or muscles in response to a nerve impulse, generating tension in the muscle(s) and frequently producing movement.
2 a Abbreviation of a writing etc.; (an) abridgement; condensation, conciseness. Now rare or obs. The shortening of a word, syllable, etc. by combination or elision; a contracted form of a word etc.

elision
1 (An) omission of a sound, syllable, etc., running together the sounds on either side of it; (an) omission of a passage in a book etc.

pick the bones out of the OED CD ROM - PAL - abreviation can be abridgement which looks for all the world to be the same, identical, fully analogous, congruent, self-similar, and in no way mutually exclusive to contraction.

AND looking in the paper version (Principle Abbreviations) I find "RC Ch." for Roman Catholic Church (note full stop) and Rmc (no full stop) for Romanic and looking for full stops explain if you will, Mr Anonymous, How come US has no f.s.'s and W.Ind. does? OED is my arbiter and seems to be - Ah! bitty.

But I will give you p'r'aps - maybe.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: GUEST,cobra
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 01:19 PM

My father's people were from the Glens of Antrim and they would often talk about so-and-so having a bit of a ceili at his/her house. There was no dancing involved as a rule or, if there was, it would be very much the exception rather than the rule. Singing, storytelling and playing of tunes would be the order of the day at these. Oh, and stout. Never forget the stout.

The airneal was something else again. Traditionally, in Donegal, these would be storytelling evenings. Many's the night I had the bejasus scared out of me by Michi Sheain Neil O'Bhaoill as an impressionable thirteen year-old.

AS others have said above, I suspect seisuin is a straight lift as Bearla, mar a deirthear.

Slan agus beannacht.