Mudcat Insomniacs.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 21 Dec 10 - 11:33 PM

Mike;
Is that the time where you are, the extent of your Gentleman's Literature, or your age in dog years? Or what?
Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 01:23 AM

I've stayed - off and on - for about 10 hours, and I assume you are all tied up with Chryssimas. Maybe see you tomorrow - to me,that's thursday.
Ciao, Davy.
It can be a bloody awful time of year, can't it?
D.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 01:39 AM

Good thread revival. I too, have made the observation that many here appear to be nightowls. Guilty! I love retirement: when I am sleepy I sleep and when not, I don't. And I have always been a night owl, from early childhood. I come alive around eight or nine PM so it's usually the Swing Shift but at times it's all night. I get my best ideas, write, draw, paint, play the guitar (quietly) as "she" is NOT an owl. Maybe it's something that creative people have in common. It would make a good poll question.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 02:22 AM

OK I stayed up. Hi Slag, I play banjo, bouzouki and mando at whatever level I want cos "she's" long gone. Retired also, I eat when I'm hungry, and I drink when I'm dry, ( sometimes I drink anyway). I'm not as creative as you seem to be, but feck it. Are you local, or from the colonies?
Cheers, Dave.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 02:37 AM

Maeve - got your message - thanks, I did. Followed your other thread and hope your house is coming along well. We don't get much of this in Belfast.
Cheers, Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 03:48 AM

Awake again here.

Thanks, framus. It's an interesting adventure, that's for sure.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 02:12 PM

Bugger this middle of the night lark - it's 7 pm here and I'm not asleep. Hello everybody................
What's that funny echo?
Dave.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 05:20 PM

Framus, the Spanish Colonies, formerly known as Alto California! But not a Californio, though I am a second generation native.

Rye whisky, rye whisky, rye whisky I cry.
If I don't get rye whisky I surely will die.

Well I eat when I'm hungry, drink when I'm dry
And if I get thirsty I'll lay down and die.

Just to fill in around your quote.

All the interesting things happen after dark. Most of the world goes missing at that time so there are fewer people to keep track of and you generally know each other. Poets, lovers, burglars, bums, suicidal folks, police and prostitutes, ambulance drivers and real high fliers. Lot's of material for anyone's inspiration, adventure, danger and the more than casual observation. That big orange thing shows everything and nothing. Those faces are all planned in advance but the night reveals all for those who have eyes to see. The secret desires of the heart eschew the light it seems, whether good or evil, they are all vulnerable and thus stay hidden from the day time crowds. Who knew that the CEO could dance like a maniac, that the little wallflower could bloom so widely in the moonlight? I'll take the night.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 07:34 PM

The way I heard it was: eat when I'm hungry, drink when I'm dry,
tail when I'm horny and hell when I die.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 08:00 PM

Heard it from whom, Kendall? :>)

That's an interesting version...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 08:35 PM

I like Kendall's version too, but mine went;
If the moonshine don't kill me,
I'll live till I die.
Slag seems to be a bit of a metaphysicist, but not all good things happen after dark - like sunrise, sunset, eclipses, streakers at cricket matches and afternoon drinking. But, chacun a son gout - unless it's real gout and your big toes are buggered.
Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 01:59 AM

I'd really like to get this thread working. but we seem to keep missing one another.
It's 7 am my time and I'm for a kip - maybe try again later.
Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 03:10 AM

I don't remember exactly where I got that version but it could have been when I was in the service. We had guys from all over the country with their local versions of many songs.
There was no TV in the middle of the Atlantic and the only radio station was WWVA Wheeling West by god Virginia.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 03:22 AM

It's 3:20 am and I can't sleep No one else around...sigh.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 04:13 AM

The haunting hour has come and gone. Just peeked into Desolation Row to see how the inmates are doing. And out and on to other things!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 12:38 AM

Hey Slag!..Hello!.....I'd post more, but I'm too tired..no sleep....been on 'Mudcat' too many all-nighters.......



Just kidding...

GfS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 01:44 AM

Hi Sane person.
This is I think the first time I've been on at the same time as another Human.
I'm surrounded by about 5" of snow and will NOT be going out.
Happy Eve, Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 01:49 AM

Just shy of midnight here in Colorado. I am only up for a few minutes. Lots of clouds, no snow here in the valley.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 05:11 AM

I actually slept last night.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 08:45 AM

So did I maeve!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 07:07 AM

I did until 2a...been awake since. Glad you both got some sleep, though!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 07:10 AM

34F in the camper. Very wakeful here! Brrrr

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 08:32 AM

Don't you have a heater?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 08:48 AM

Sure we do. We just can't afford to keep it running so we shut it off at night unless it's realllllllly cold- and then we can't sleep for the noise! LOL

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 01:03 PM

34 F - luxury! It's about 6.00 pm here, and -5C. Maeve, what sort of heater have you that's noisier off than on?
Anyway, Santa's been and gone, and I'm a couple of bottles better off, so "I don't care if it hails or freezes,
    Long as I've got my plastic Jesus,
    Standin' on the dashboard of my car."
Have a nice one everybody, Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 06:01 PM

Davy, we're in an uninsulated camper(caravan) with a small propane heater. 34F/1C is comfy outside with a jacket and a hat, but not so nice for sleeping. It was -14C outside.

The moon, stars, and our big LED Christmas star were lovely with the early predawn sky, however. The chickens were glad of fresh unfrozen water and some maize and sunflower seeds with their layer pellets.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 08:24 PM

Did you bank the skirts of the camper? That will keep a lot of cold out from under the floor.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 08:46 PM

We banked our house every year. No options for buying banking materials this year. We can eat for a month for the cost of hay bales around the camper, I shouldn't drifted so far from the topic, sorry. :)

Good sleep to you all tonight!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Beer
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 09:12 PM

Yes, sleep well all for another Christmas has come and soon to pass.
ad.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 11:56 PM

Anyone awake?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 06:33 PM

Here's hoping we all find sleep tonight.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 08:27 PM

Hi Maeve,
Hope I haven't missed you - didn't mean to offend about your level of coldness, sorry. We're -5C for about two weeks of the year, so we have to outdo somebody when it happens.
All the best to your propane heater, your straw bales, and, of course, you and yours.
I think I'll go and kick some snow while it's still there, then back to the liquid central heating.
Good luck, Dave.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 08:31 PM

Hey there, Dave. No worries. I don't tend to compete, I just tell the facts as I know them. I hope you have a great night.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 08:41 PM

Thanks Maeve,
I've just seen your posts on the More Snow thread, and realise that my 5" can't compete with many others - but then that's what all the girls tell me!
Dave.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 08:49 PM

Fortunately there's no meaningful weather competition, Dave. I usually enjoy this sort of storm, but not this year.

I think Leadfingers is in Chat, by the way.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 09:51 PM

No insulation maeve? None in the walls either?

Well, soon enough, albeit none too soon, you will be able to cozy up in the yurt.

I understand that Maine winters and North Carolina winters are different creatures, but the six years we lived in the Airstream without underpinning or skirting were pretty tolerable, and temps in the 20's and teens F at night were not uncommon. We used a radiant propane heater we turned on in the mornings to huddle in front of, and to take the essential chill off of the front part of the trailer at night. Wool hats and socks were our friends in the evenings while I fixed supper, and we retreated early to the bed to cover up with a combination of heavy wool Hudson Bay blankets and down mummy bags. Would set the alarm about 30 minutes early to get up and light the heater, then dive back into bed until the deep chill was off the kitchen/sitting area. (We also spent one winter in a tent. We got through, but the travel trailer was much more tolerable when we graduated to it.)

I think the main thing, in either setting, was we were very careful to dress so that we kept reasonably warm during the day and did not allow our core body temps. to drop.   I'm allergic to wool, but nothing works better to maintain body warmth when one is not out working up a sweat. The new synthetics are "active wear" and are great if one is outside and active, because they breathe. None of them provide enough to maintain body heat in a cold, indoors setting.   They are not designed for outdoor living, but for outdoor activity.

Wool or not, wear a cap to bed, and as many clothes and covers as needed to stay warm in bed. Warming the bed with a brick or rock is good, but you still need enough insulating bed and head cover to maintain body temps. through the night. Go to bed before you feel significantly chilled.

And I bet you know all of this already.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 27 Dec 10 - 03:49 AM

Hey Ggfs! Ah, doing all those Christmas things, family things. I think Santa is one of us! Why else does he do his thing at the witching hour? As I said, for good or evil the really interesting stuff happens at night.

I hope you all had a good holiday. I did.

Janie, I was reading about the Clan McMillan to which I claim ancestry. One of the young sons had gone off to school and was home at the Christmas break. Wolves had attacked some of their sheep in the Highlands so Papa took his son out with him to address the problem. Snow was on the ground and their only warmth was in the clothes they wore. When night fell, they set about to sleep upon the snow when Papa looks over at his son who was fashioning a pillow from the snow: "You've gone soft on us now, ha'e you?"

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 03:54 AM

There's more than enough about us in appropriate threads. Sorry for thread drift on that subject here.

Here's hoping those who needed sleep are finding it.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 04:18 AM

just gone 9.00 am UK time..

maybe one or two more glasses of Calvados then off to bed until the afternoon..

This always happens the 1st night the wife goes away to visit her family
after xmas..

Thank **** I'm now mature enough to stay at home on the internet
and not go out to town getting into trouble night clubbing..

good .. I'm starting to yawn now...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 12:14 AM

Stuff insomniacs - we all seem to be asleep, or hibernating.   HALOOOO!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 02:29 AM

And a HALOOOO to you too framus. There's an old joke among gearheads (car guys) about calibrating the framus and adjusting for skim, two meaningless phrases designed to expose newbies or phonies. Does that have anything to do with your handle? Lovely late night we're having over here. Just about 37 F with light breeze.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 06:02 PM

You might get this tomorrow -next year? - sorry, I gave up.
I like (old) cars, but I play a Framus.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: CapriUni
Date: 06 Mar 11 - 02:45 AM

I've been getting emails from a family member saying she's worried about me, and she wants to call me on the phone. I've been waiting to hear her message on my phone machine, but she hasn't left any.

Tonight, just as I'm about to go to bed, I check my email one last time, just on a whim, instead of turning off the computer. She writes to say that if I don't answer the phone at two tomorrow, she will "have" to call the local police.

How am I supposed to sleep, now?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 01:03 PM

Well, I hope you got some sleep Capri Uni. Some time later, it's 4:02am in Sydney and i haven't slept yet. Will someone hit me over the head?

hopefully

freda

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 07:19 PM

12:15am in Kent UK, and about an hour and a half till I go to bed.

I sleep about five hours a night(used to be four when I was working, but I have an hour lay-in no I'm retired) and I'd rather sit up till 2:00am and wake at 7.00am than the alternative of being awake from 3:00am with nothing to do.

Don T.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 28 Mar 12 - 02:25 PM

It's no problem sleeping, I could do that for England. I'd get a gold medal in the Olympics for it. The problem I'm having lately is terrible nightmares. I scream my head off and scare the life out of my poor husband. He's ever so good and soon comforts me, but whatever is causing this? I'm not on any medication, and eat the same things as usual. Last night, a black expressionless face hovered over me and I knew it was Death. A woman with scarlet lips accompanied it brandishing an enormous machete dripping with blood! Very Harry-Potterish eh? I don't watch horror films or read horror books. Am I going bonkers? (Answers on a postcard please...)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 07:59 AM

That's a tough one, Eliza, makes me feel better about the insomnia! I hope you've had a break the last couple of nights,

best wishes

freda

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 01:42 PM

Thank you very much freda, and I hope you can manage to sleep well for the next few nights. It must be awful lying awake hour after hour, tired but unable to get your rest. Best wishes to you, and kind regards from Eliza xx

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 04:26 PM

Hey you insomniacs, I just discovered a real sleep aid and it is OTC, no prescription. Melatonin. One tablet half an hour before bed time and I sleep like a log.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 03:08 AM

kendall, here in UK melatonin is only obtainable by prescription from a GP. People therefore buy it online. It isn't particularly harmful nor addictive. But buying medication online is very dodgy, as you can never be sure the tablets are what they're supposed to be. But I realise that folk desperate to sleep might be driven to such measures.