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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jul 13 - 08:09 PM Pure conspiracy theory stuff, Goofy. Everything I've been able to find on the web links the story back to the so-called European Union Times, which is NOT the European press at all, but an American based far-right blog, tricked up to LOOK like something legitimate. No other news source in the world is carrying the "story." You got sucked in, Goofy! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 09 Jul 13 - 08:15 PM If someone can't write a story without the 1st paragraph dripping in hate chances are that it isn't worth reading... Kinda like a very bad band that isn't in tune... It won't get any better... Try sane writers, GfinS, that aren't mentally disabled with hate... It might help your cause... Right now, all you are pitchin' at us is pure shit... 100% USDA Choice shit... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jul 13 - 08:39 PM From HERE Russian Troops in America Rumor is False, No FEMA Disaster PlannedSo much for THAT! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 09 Jul 13 - 08:58 PM GfinS doesn't do truth, Don, but great to see you debunk the Obama-hate article... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jul 13 - 09:29 PM And Goofball accuses ME of slanting the news when I was a radio station news director! What I actually did with any controversial story was to check the credibility and reliability of the news sources, and then look for other, non-biased sources. If you keep an open mind and keep your judgment clear, you can usually ferret out the truth. It takes a little more time, but to me, it's worth it to know the truth. I got pretty good at it. Goofball's trouble is 1) he assumes that I don't have any more personal integrity than he has and would do what he does in the same situation, and 2), if it supports what he wants to believe, he'll simply believe it, without caring if it's true or not. Too many people like that around. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Jul 13 - 09:41 PM You two idiots re over the top! I NEVER said that the story was true, or not..nor did I promote it, either way... I just posted it the way it came to me, and asked, "Whadya' think?" Ok, Now I (WE) know what you think...now get your shorts ironed out, because you apparently got them bunched up in a twist! ...it's not like I didn't say this before....however, you DO seem to be hard of comprehension. Had I believed the story, one way or another, I would have said so. frankly, I didn't know, and I never portrayed otherwise. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 09 Jul 13 - 09:44 PM GfinS, like her bud, bb, is incapable of rational thought, Don... I mean, it's like a big hole in GfinS's brain where nothing lives... Just pump out Obama-hate and not too much more... Like I have said, "If Obama were to find a cure for cancer there would be the same folks who would accuse him of trying to put doctors out of work"... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jul 13 - 09:57 PM And he calls US idiots!! I wonder if he's ever considered a lobotomy? (If they could even find a brain to lobotomize. . . .) Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Jul 13 - 11:24 PM Don Firth: "And he calls US idiots!! I wonder if he's ever considered a lobotomy?" No, actually I thought you two were sent over from the Democrat welcoming committee! GfS P.S. BTW, If you two are an indication of what it is to be an 'open minded liberal', answering questions, never mind, I gave at the office! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Don Firth Date: 10 Jul 13 - 12:13 AM Any brain surgeon working on Goofus would have to be assisted by a proctologist. Goofy, your last post doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Incoherent. And your P. S. is not even a complete sentence. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Jul 13 - 12:40 AM Foaming: "Goofy, your last post doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Incoherent. And your P. S. is not even a complete sentence." You are out of your mind!..BTW, have you two had your rabies shots? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 10 Jul 13 - 09:12 AM LOL, ya'll... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Don Firth Date: 10 Jul 13 - 01:08 PM Not foaming at the mouth, Goofball. I leave that to you. My comment was a simple observation, noting that you are being incoherent as usual (which any literate, intelligent person can see). Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Jul 13 - 11:12 PM Hey..I sent the person who sent me that link, your link to the 'Inquisitor'...and asked her to check it out, and double check her sources, (just in case the 'Inquisitor' is off)...I'll let you know. I've also sent note to others who got the e-mail, to hold on..until we get to the bottom of it, either way. Just to let you know. Fair is Fair.... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 17 Jul 13 - 10:06 AM The Affordable Care Act now has a formidable opponent in U.S. labor unions. The unions were a key ally in the law's passage: They spent a large sum of money on the congressional campaigns of Democrats in 2006 and 2008, and union leaders lobbied in favor of health care reform in 2009 and 2010. But with growing worries that the legislation will disrupt the health benefits of its members, America's largest unions are asking Congress to step in. Representatives of three of the nation's largest unions sent a letter to Democratic Sens. Harry Reid of Nevada and Nancy Pelosi of California on Thursday. "When you and the President sought our support for the Affordable Care Act, you pledged that if we liked the health plans we have now, we could keep them. Sadly, that promise is under threat," letter said. "Right now, unless you and the Obama Administration enact an equitable fix, the ACA will shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits, but destroy the foundation of the 40 hour workweek that is the backbone of the American middle class." The letter was written by James P. Hoffa, general president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters; Joseph Hansen, international president of the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union; and Donald Taylor, the president of Unite-Here, a union representing hotel, airport, food service, gaming, and textile workers. Their letter noted that their respective unions have long been supporters of the idea that all Americans should have access to quality, affordable health care. "We have also been strong supporters of you," the three union presidents wrote. "In campaign after campaign we have put boots on the ground, gone door-to-door to get out the vote, run phone banks and raised money to secure this vision." But the problem is that "this vision has come back to haunt us." The union leadership is seeking "reasonable regulatory interpretations" to the Affordable Care Act that would help prevent the destruction of nonprofit health plans. However, according to the letter, earlier requests for government action have been "disregarded and met with a stone wall by the White House and the pertinent agencies." In their opinion, this disregard compares unfavorably with how the administration responded to requests made by other so-called stakeholders, citing the government's decision to make a "huge accommodation" for the employer community by extending the deadline for the employer mandate and penalties. "Time is running out: Congress wrote this law; we voted for you. We have a problem; you need to fix it," wrote the union leaders. "The unintended consequences of the ACA are severe. Perverse incentives are already creating nightmare scenarios." The letter lists three complaints. First, that the law creates an incentive for employers to keep workers' hours below 30 hours per week. Second, that millions of Americans, including a great majority of union members, are covered by nonprofit health insurance plans. But with the implementation of Obamacare, union workers will be "treated differently and not be eligible for subsidies afforded other citizens." Finally, the letter argued that while union, nonprofit plans will not receive the same subsidies, they will be taxed to pay for those subsidies. Hoffa, Hansen, and Taylor believe that there are "common-sense" fixes that can be made to the legislation that will allow union members to keep their current plans and benefits as Congress and President Barack Obama promised. Unless the changes are made, they said that pledge is hollow. "We continue to stand behind real health care reform, but the law as it stands will hurt millions of Americans including the members of our respective unions," the letter concluded. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Greg F. Date: 17 Jul 13 - 05:08 PM Beardy! A whole week without polluting this thread with more BullshitBruce Blogoshit! Congratulations on your restraint! There may be hope yet --- or not. As usual, no source for the latest mound road apples. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 18 Jul 13 - 09:16 AM A third federal appeals court ruled Wednesday that President Obama violated the Constitution last year when he made recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board, adding more weight to the case as it goes before the Supreme Court in the justices' next session. The Fourth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in a 2-1 decision, said that the president can only make recess appointments after Congress has adjourned "sine die," which in modern times has meant when it breaks at the end of each year. That ruling rejects Mr. Obama's own interpretation that he can make appointments whenever he deems the Senate to be unable to give him "advice and consent" on his nominees. After digging through constitutional history and reading up on the framers, the judges said it's apparent the founding fathers intended for the president only to be able to use his recess appointment powers when the Senate was gone for a long period of time, not the brief breaks Congress regularly takes for holidays or weekends. "All this points to the inescapable conclusion that the framers intended something specific by the term 'the Recess,' and that it was something different than a generic break in proceedings," Judge Clyde H. Hamilton wrote in his majority opinion. He was joined by Judge Allyson K. Duncan, who filed a concurring opinion. Judge Hamilton was nominated to the bench by President George H.W. Bush and Judge Duncan was tapped by President George W. Bush. In dissent, Judge Albert Diaz, whom Mr. Obama nominated to the court, said he read the same textual passages of the Constitution as the other two judges, but was unable to find a clear meaning, and he said he would have upheld the nominees as constitutional. Mr. Obama made three recess appointments to the NLRB and one to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau in January 2012, acting even though the Senate was meeting in pro forma sessions every three days specifically to deny the president his recess powers. The founding document says the president may use his powers to fill "all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate." Traditionally most presidents had abided by an informal rule that the Senate must have been out of session for 10 days in order to make recess appointments — though that doesn't appear anywhere in the Constitution. Mr. Obama argued that even though the Senate was meeting every three days, the pro forma sessions meant just a single senator was on the chamber floor for a brief time, and no real business was conducted, which meant the Senate was really not in session. But Judge Hamilton said modern times have rendered that interpretation moot. "At the time of the Constitution's ratification, breaks between sessions of Congress typically were six to nine months. During such periods, it was unrealistic to think the Senate could perform its advice and consent function," he wrote. "By contrast, there is no evidence that the Framers thought it was necessary to empower the president to make unilateral appointments while the Senate was adjourned within its session for short periods." The ruling matches those of federal appeals courts for the District of Columbia and the 3rd Circuit. The Supreme Court has agreed to hear the case from the D.C. circuit when it begins its next term in the fall. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 18 Jul 13 - 09:23 AM IRS employees have told congressional investigators that they were ordered by the agency's Washington office to give extra scrutiny to tea party groups' applications for tax-exempt status, according to excerpts from interviews with the employees that were released by House committee chairmen Wednesday. Carter Hull, a tax law specialist with 48 years of experience at the IRS, told investigators that Lois Lerner, the former head of the Exempt Organizations division, demanded he send some of the reviews of tea party groups to the IRS chief counsel's office in Washington. The chief counsel is one of two political appointees in the IRS. The Internal Revenue Service has come under fire over the past several months after the agency's auditor, J. Russell George, exposed that the agency was targeting conservative groups for intrusive scrutiny. This week, The Washington Times reported that government employees also improperly accessed IRS information to look at data on a handful of political candidates and donors. Sen. Jeff Flake, Arizona Republican, said Wednesday that the investigation into the troubled agency must be expanded. "It is clear that misconduct at the agency was not isolated to 'rogue employees' in the tax-exempt applications division," Mr. Flake said. "This recent development suggests that political targeting was potentially more widespread." Even as Republicans push to broaden the inquiries, Democrats are preparing to go after Mr. George, the Treasury inspector general for tax administration, whose May report first exposed the IRS targeting of conservative groups. Mr. George and Mr. Hull are scheduled to testify Thursday before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Greg F. Date: 18 Jul 13 - 09:23 AM Source, Beardy? Or just more horseshit? Also note: Judge Hamilton was nominated to the bench by President George H.W. Bush and Judge Duncan was tapped by President George W. Bush. Couldn't be a couple of those damn "activist judges" that you TeaPubs are always pissing and moaning about, eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 18 Jul 13 - 09:25 AM I don't give a rat's ass if Obama uses recess to appoint people who the minority won't even allow an up-or-down vote... George Bush threatened to do it... It's wrong no matter who does it and nu-democratic... It was right for Senator Reid to push the "nuclear option"... It also was right when the Repub threatened to do 7 or 8 years ago... There should be no filibusters on appointees unless that filibuster is done the "Mr Smith Goes to Washington" way... But that means real work and real time and real debate and real legislating... Not at all what we have now where the filibuster is as easy as taking a breath... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 18 Jul 13 - 09:36 AM Bobert, "It's wrong no matter who does it and nu-democratic..." I agree. So you accept that Obama is not perfect? You have stated that anyone who opposes anything that Obama does is therefore racist. You have stated that that is the ++only++ reason that anyone opposes anything that Obama has done. You have shown yourself to be as racist as TEA Party members are, according to your own posts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 18 Jul 13 - 10:10 AM Find where I have posted that Obama is "perfect"... Oh, that's right... You can't... Just more invented stuff on your part so you can argue with stuff that other people never said... See, bruce... That is the "irrational" part of your thinking and why I chose to ignore you... I gave you an opportunity to discuss policy but you chose to exhibit, once again, your personality disorder... So, I'll ignore you here like I am on the Zimmerman thread... Maybe one day I'll give you another opportunity to have an adult discussion that isn't wrapped in dishonesty and game playing... Then again, maybe I won't... Bye on this thread, too,and don't waste your time writing that "Bobert is this or that" thinking I might read them... I have this mouse that allows me to just ignore you... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Greg F. Date: 18 Jul 13 - 10:28 AM That mouse have any brothers or sisters that would like a good home, Bobert? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 18 Jul 13 - 10:54 AM Greggie, First the hamsters, and now mice? You need a smaller animal? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 18 Jul 13 - 10:59 AM Bobert, YOU ( fucking shouting) stated that the ONLY (emphasis) reason anyone would disagree with Obama was because they were racist, and thus ALL ( shouting again) TEA Party members and Republicans were racist. Now that you admit you disagree with Obama, I guess the rules change, since one of the Master Race like you could not possibly be judged by the standards you impose on the people you disagree with. What a scumsucking bigot! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 19 Jul 13 - 09:03 AM refresh |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 19 Jul 13 - 10:18 AM Perhaps it was inevitable, that any president branded and sold as "Hope" was destined to disappoint. But in these scorching summer doldrums of 2013, you have to wonder: did it have to be this disappointing? Is this really the same Barack Obama who had such high expectations for resetting relationships with the Muslim world that he gave his first television interview as president to Al Arabiya television, declaring that "my job is to communicate the fact that the United States has a stake in the well-being of the Muslim world"? Now we're giving aid to Syrian rebels who eat the heart of their defeated foes, while in Egypt we seem resigned to working with whoever can fill Tahrir Square with the most people at the moment. Immediately after his election in 2008, President-Elect Obama said in response to a question from Steve Kroft on 60 Minutes about the use of executive orders, "I have said repeatedly I intend to close Guantánamo." But five years later, prisoners in Guantánamo are trying to starve themselves to death because, whatever he said he intended, he hasn't done it. He can blame Republicans all he wants, but as senator Obama said in a 2007 debate, "When we have a situation like Guantánamo where we have suspended habeas corpus, to the extent we are not being true to our values and our ideals, that sends a negative message to the world and it gives us less leverage when we want to deal with countries who are abusing human rights." Looming over all this is a president who doesn't seem to care what anyone thinks. As they say, "hope" is not a strategy, but it turns out that was Obama's plan for dealing with the world. The hallmark of great presidents is clarity of vision and purpose or at least the perception of such. In his best moments as a candidate, Barack Obama offered that like few political figures of this or any time. He seemed to believe deeply in his mission, so many Americans believed. Indeed, many across the globe believed. But today it's precisely a lack of belief and conviction that haunts this president. His support for the Syrian rebels seems forced and reluctant. If he has a diplomatic or strategic vision for Egypt, it's a mystery. In Afghanistan, over three times as many Americans have died under President Obama than President Bush, and it's difficult to maintain that the American policy has been a success. In the last campaign, President Obama repeatedly assured the public that all U.S. troops would be out by 2014. Now we are told U.S. troops will remain for an indefinite time helping to train Afghan forces. We are negotiating with the Taliban but we aren't negotiating with the Taliban. It's a mess and Americans continue to die. In 2007, Nicholas Kristof wrote a column for The New York Times hailing Obama—Man of the World. "His experience as an antipoverty organizer in Chicago" wrote the pundit, "gives him a deep grasp of a crucial 21st-century challenge—poverty in America—that almost all politicians lack." But today fewer Americans are working full time than when Obama took office, and a record number of Americans have fallen into poverty. Almost half of New York City lives below the poverty line. Over 16 million more Americans are now on food stamps. But the president has spent more time playing golf with Tiger Woods and raising money with Wall Street millionaires—his presidential campaigns have raised more money from Wall Street than any in history—than focusing concern for the poor. The president's greatest passion is clearly for more gun control. While his hometown of Chicago has draconian gun control laws, it is a slaughterhouse of gun violence, and still the president is unable to muster support for new legislation. Every time he talks about how 90 percent of the public supports his position, it only makes him look more impotent. This is a president who can't even pass legislation with 90 percent public support? Obamacare remains his signature achievement and it is likely to be the program for which he will be most judged by history. At the moment, like Obama's foreign policy, it's a chaotic mess, a policy that appears to have timid support from those charged with its execution. Looming over all this is a president who doesn't seem to care what anyone thinks. No doubt he feels vindicated by reelection and that's understandable, perhaps inevitable. But if reelection is validity enough, then President Bush's victory proved that the Iraq war was a success. Perhaps Obama will wake up and surprise us with a new agenda and renewed engagement. Perhaps it's just the summer heat and the inevitable realization that promising more than you can deliver works only in short-term transactions and eight years is a long time. One thing is certain: the Obama years will be judged by results, not the quality of his excuses. You can't ask to be granted the chance to become a transformational figure in world history, be given that opportunity, and then hope that you can blame anyone else when Hope didn't work out. These are the Obama years. How's it working out? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Greg F. Date: 19 Jul 13 - 10:37 AM And yet more anonymous, meaningless BlogoShit courtesy of BullshitBruce |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 19 Jul 13 - 10:49 AM Another GREAT contribution from the "Liberal Voice" of Mudcat... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 02:25 AM beardedbruce: "Perhaps it was inevitable, that any president branded and sold as "Hope" was destined to disappoint. But in these scorching summer doldrums of 2013, you have to wonder: did it have to be this disappointing?" 'Hope and Change' was the ad....but we all found out it was 'bait and switch'...which, BTW, is illegal when store does it, but OK, when a politician does it...go figure! GfS P.S. or was that 'Ho and Change'? (I came upon that as a typo...and thought it worked!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 23 Jul 13 - 11:42 AM Almost half the jobs created during the Obama recovery have been created in Texas. Which perhaps means it should be called the Obama-Perry recovery. Or the Perry-Obama recovery – it's not clear who should get top billing, though outgoing Texas Gov. Rick Perry certainly has pushed a better pro-growth agenda than the president. In fact, while the "blue states" are running up debt and flirting with bankruptcy, the "red states" continue to take the lead in cutting taxes, streamlining government and job creation, according to a report issued Monday by the State Government Leadership Foundation and being distributed by the Republican Legislative Campaign Committee. The full report, which can be found here, shows the contrast in performance by states where the Republicans are in charge measured against states where Democrats hold the reins of power. "Reviewing the accomplishments of state legislatures across the country reveals a clear pattern – that Republican legislatures are not only right on the issues voters care about most, they have also focused on issues that benefit their entire state's population," the RLCC said in a release accompanying the report. "During legislative sessions this year, red states focused on education reform that benefits all children, cutting taxes to save money for all residents, and focusing on pro-growth regulatory reforms that benefit all businesses and their employees. In stark contrast lie the accomplishments of blue states, which focused only on narrow special interests critical to their political base," the group said. While Washington is hide-bound and gridlocked, the GOP-led states, under the leadership of governors such as Wisconsin's Scott Walker, Ohio's John Kasich, Michigan's Rick Snyder, the aforementioned Perry, Rick Scott of Florida and others are showing that many of the problems facing the country are, in fact, neither intractable nor unsolvable. With 166 million people living in states where the GOP holds the governorship and united legislative control, the policy changes the Republicans are pushing show success to a majority of America – and that will impact how they vote in 2014, no matter what kind of scare campaign the Democrats mount.. Pasted into link maker: http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/07/23/states-with-republican-governors-lead-in-job-creation-and-growth?int=4f18d8 Output of link maker: http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/07/23/states-with-republican-governors-lead-in-job-creation-and-growth?int=4 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Greg F. Date: 23 Jul 13 - 12:12 PM Pasted into link maker: Output of link maker: So learn to do it yourself, BlogoShit Bruce, like the rest of us. The instructions are posted- and anyone with a sixth grade education can follow them. Wait, on second thought, don't. You already post monstrous piles of irrelevant, anonymous horseshit as it is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: number 6 Date: 11 Sep 13 - 08:15 AM Well ......... biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Amos Date: 11 Sep 13 - 04:09 PM Barack Obama is a beleaguered rationalist surrounded by foaming nitwits and reactionary sociopaths. As such it is extremely difficult for him to do much of anything; despite which he has forged ahead finding positive steps to take that move the state of the Union forward despite ducking flaming arrows and turd-balls from the less thoughtful mugwumps who dance around just outside the firelight screaming madcap tomfoolery at the top of thier lungs. I think, myself, he is the best man for the job at the moment, a better President than Bush, Reagan or any of their ilk. But that's just my opinion. I am sure some people, dear friends whose names will not be named, will be tempted to let go a gasket at the very thought. Pity, that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 11 Sep 13 - 04:56 PM If the TeaPubs don't think that the Democrats aren't taking notes here then these people are actually dumber than a box of creek rocks... They say that get-backs are hell... These creepy crackers will one day find themselves on the wrong end of the ballgame... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Amos Date: 12 Sep 13 - 11:46 AM It's easy to pretend that things aren't getting better, Bruce; but the numbers indicate they are indeed getting better in spite of the obstreperous nihilism of the reactionary Congress. Pity, that. Numbers of Americans killed in military operations--way down. Employment--rising slowly but steadily. Market value of US companies -- rising steadily. Hmmmmmmmmm? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Sawzaw Date: 05 Dec 13 - 11:19 AM Well Well Well. It had to happen. Seems like some Americans are evolving. Only 42% of 'em aprove or somewhat aprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president, at least accordin' to the Washington Post. That's the news paper that has everything you want to read in it ya know. Time for a reality check. Snub out the reefers and put the corncob back in tha jug and click here |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Greg F. Date: 05 Dec 13 - 01:24 PM No, ShitSaw- for reality, do a check on the popularity of Republicans currently. And after that, fuck off. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 05 Dec 13 - 06:52 PM Let's see??? 42% v. 8%??? I'll take Obama's numbers, thank you... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 06 Dec 13 - 03:41 AM Interesting....................................I think................ I know!....Let's pray for him!....Just him....don't even root for him one way or the other! ...........maybe a bolt of light from come zapping down.....sizzle on his head.........and a miracle will unfold to the nation and the world......maybe he will start telling the truth!~! Wouldn't that be lovely?????....."Hope and Change" GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Sawzaw Date: 14 Dec 13 - 12:36 AM Well well well. Gee golly and ding dong dang dag nab it! Seems like popular views are gettin' harder and harder to find. Folks at Havard, training ground for 8 presidents an the previous stompin' grounds for Mr Obama has done a poll: Harvard poll: 57% of Millennials disapprove of ObamacareHarvard's Institute of Politics (IOP) December 4, 2013 Cambridge, MA - A new national poll of America's 18- to 29- year-olds by Harvard's Institute of Politics (IOP), located at the John F. Kennedy School of Government, finds a solid majority of Millennials disapprove of the comprehensive health reform package that the president signed into law in 2010, regardless of whether the law is referred to as the "Affordable Care Act" (56%: disapprove) or as "Obamacare" (57%: disapprove). Less than three-in-ten uninsured Millennials say they will definitely or probably enroll in insurance through an exchange if and when they are eligible. Among those indicating in our poll that they would recall the president if they could include: A majority (52%) of voters under the age 25, compared to 40 percent between 25 and 29; 19 percent of those who voted for him in 2012; 19 percent of Democrats, 82 percent of Republicans and 51 percent of Independent voters; and 58 percent of young Whites, 35 percent of Hispanics and 21 percent of Blacks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Dec 13 - 01:46 AM Sawzaw, You racist pig!...what does what the majority of what people think have to do with the 'liberal' view of Democracy??? How can they have an unbiased opinion..when most nobody knows what's in it....even those Democratic 'Representatives'(?), who didn't know what was in it when they voted for it??!! Jeez!..You'd think that those Democrats were really Republicans voting for crony capitalism....or something like that!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Dec 13 - 04:29 PM I think the 'so-called liberals' are caught between a mock and a farce space. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Don Firth Date: 14 Dec 13 - 06:40 PM "So-called 'liberal'?" "If by a 'Liberal' you mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people—their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties—someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies, if that is what you mean by a 'Liberal', then I'm proud to say I'm a 'Liberal.'"Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Dec 13 - 07:21 PM Typical of you..half truths...you left out the 'so-called' GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Don Firth Date: 14 Dec 13 - 08:30 PM That's YOUR problem, Goofup, not mine. Tell you what, Goofball. When you get to Oz, tell the Wizard that, like the Scarecrow, you, too, need a brain. I'm not a "so-called" liberal. I am a Liberal. A John Stuart Mill, John Locke, Thomas Paine, John F. Kennedy Liberal. Nothing "so-called" about it. I arrived at this position through education (staying awake and paying attention in high school and college classes), study and thinking. The ideas of Liberalism started in ancient Athens, the first place in which Democracy existed. It was flawed, but it had good points that we could wisely incorporate today. For one thing, they had a foolproof method of preventing their law-makers from being bribed. Well worth re-examining today. Plato was not a Democrat. Nor a Liberal. He believed in government by an elite (Philosopher Kings, of which he planned to be one himself). In relatively more recent times, one of the first major steps in Liberalism and the establishment of Democracy was when King John was forced to sign the Magna Carta in 1215 A.D., limiting the power of the king and delineating a list of basic rights. It's a long and on-going struggle, which included the French Revolution, wherein the bone of contention was protection of people in general from the abuses of the aristocracy. And the American Revolution and the United States freeing itself from the abuses of being a mere collection of exploitable colonies of an Empire. There are those who would re-establish the abuses of "privilege," and it's Liberals and Progressives who are striving to prevent it. By keeping up on events, interpreting them in the light of a cohesive ethical philosophy, then participating in political action. Those who are too damned lazy don't realize what others are doing in their behalf. And some of them have the unmitigated gall to insult and criticize those who, in the long run, are keeping them from the possibility of being hauled off to a concentration camp at somebody else's whim. Don't thank us, Goofball. I wouldn't expect it from the likes of people like you. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Don Firth Date: 14 Dec 13 - 09:04 PM I posted the following on another thread in answer to some snide comments and insults from Goofballupagus, and I think it would be appropriate to post it here as well. ======== Tell you what, Goofball. When you get to Oz, tell the Wizard that, like the Scarecrow, you, too, need a brain. I'm not a "so-called" liberal. I am a Liberal. A John Stuart Mill, John Locke, Thomas Paine, John F. Kennedy Liberal. Nothing "so-called" about it. I arrived at this position through education (staying awake and paying attention in high school and college classes), study and thinking. The ideas of Liberalism started in ancient Athens, the first place in which Democracy existed. It was flawed, but it had good points that we could wisely incorporate today. For one thing, they had a foolproof method of preventing their law-makers from being bribed. Well worth re-examining today. Plato was not a Democrat. Nor a Liberal. He believed in government by an elite (Philosopher Kings, of which he planned to be one himself). In relatively more recent times, one of the first major steps in Liberalism and the establishment of Democracy was when King John was forced to sign the Magna Carta in 1215 A.D., limiting the power of the king and delineating a list of basic rights. It's a long and on-going struggle, which included the French Revolution, wherein the bone of contention was protection of people in general from the abuses of the aristocracy. And the American Revolution and the United States freeing itself from the abuses of being a mere collection of exploitable colonies of an Empire. There are those who would re-establish the abuses of "privilege," and it's Liberals and Progressives who are striving to prevent it. By keeping up on events, interpreting them in the light of a cohesive ethical philosophy, then participating in political action. Those who are too damned lazy don't realize what others are doing in their behalf. And some of them have the unmitigated gall to insult and criticize those who, in the long run, are keeping them from the possibility of being hauled off to a concentration camp at somebody else's whim. Don't thank us, Goofball. I wouldn't expect it from the likes of people like you. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Don Firth Date: 14 Dec 13 - 09:21 PM Goofball keeps referring to me as a "so-called liberal." There is nothing "so-called" about it. I am a Liberal. "If by a 'Liberal' you mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people—their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties—someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies, if that is what you mean by a 'Liberal', then I'm proud to say I'm a 'Liberal.'"Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Don Firth Date: 14 Dec 13 - 10:18 PM I posted them twice, but I still have serious doubts that Goofballupagus will get it. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Dec 13 - 10:33 PM When are you ever going to stop turning every post that your misrepresented rap is up against the wall and start talking about yourself, and stick to something even near the topic? We know what a liberal is. We know what tyrants are. We know what dictators are. We know what corruption is. We also know what concerns parents have in raising their children. Maybe if you would have raised yours, you could have gotten this shit out of your system, and stop act so condescending to those who DID take care of 'first things first'....after all, why should anyone pay any attention to a self absorbed fanatic, who wasn't concerned with dealing with the nuclear fabric of any society??? Don't confuse the love of and from a family, with the notoriety of 'being somebody'! ......especially when you've been asked to provide your vision of what how you see your perfect political world.....and can't seem to cough it up. You either got it...or you don't....and all we get is lofty rhetoric that points back to your overly inflated opinion of yourself. Comprende?? Sincerely, GfS |
