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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: kendall Date: 28 Nov 08 - 07:28 AM McGrath, my computer can be set either for American or British spellings. Just because letters are free doesn't mean you have to use them! LOL (A little humour) see? I just got a red line under humour. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: BB Date: 28 Nov 08 - 07:31 AM Oh, no, don't split it any more, please! I don't even know what's happened to the BS section - it doesn't appear on my page at all, although it used to. But I am interested in what's going on where, and if I lost that, I wouldn't know where to find it. I'm not terribly computer literate, and I really have only the basics on Mudcat and wouldn't know where to find anything else. Please think of us simpletons and don't complicate it further! And Max, I'm very grateful for all you and others do - keep up the good work! Barbara |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 28 Nov 08 - 08:05 AM Splitting the forum does have drawbacks - virtually all other online forums I've ever seen have gone down that road, and one of the many things that makes the Mudcat so much better is that we haven't. It may seem tidier all split up, and it can be convenient, but there's a price to pay - I'm reminded of the way libraries these days tend to split up fiction into arbitrary sections like Crime, and Romance and you miss stuff you'd have liked because it's somewhere you never look. I think there is more to be said for doing it a different way, with consistent use of heading prefixes. Maybe with an extra prefix for the kind of ephemeral "people and events" stuff Geoff was talking about there. Perhaps P&E or Eph. Used along with a regional marker such as UK or NZ. That way, by judicious use of the "filter" box and the "filter out" box up the top of the threads, and people could sort things out for themselves. When they chose they could set up a screen where all the P&E threads are absent, or just the UK ones - or the other way round, when that's what they wanted. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: jacqui.c Date: 28 Nov 08 - 09:00 AM Conversely, it is possible to have above and below the line mixed in together, as I do, if that suits an individual better. That way you wouldn't miss anything while those who want to check specifically on events would be able to find them more easily. BB - check your entry in the Membership link at the top of the page. You may have filtered out the BS section there. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 28 Nov 08 - 09:30 AM Despite the correct observation that it's possible right now to eliminate the separation of "regular" and BS, or just not have BS show up, and the suggestion that that would make the tripartite separation more usable, I disagree. Many, many of us--even regular, longtime Mudcatters--still don't even know how to do a blue clicky! The addition of yet another control to learn would be another confusing factor for many here. As to other sites that have multiple sections, I really dislike those things, for the very reason mentioned by McGrath of Harlow. I say stay with the present two-part separation, with the present ability to meld them, for those who want to do so. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: kendall Date: 28 Nov 08 - 09:32 AM I like the split. Leave it be. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Geoff the Duck Date: 28 Nov 08 - 10:02 AM BB - go to the top of a page. Just below where it says "Mudcat Cafe" there is a line of clickies starting with "Lyrics & Knowledge" and finishing with "Help". If you click the one that says "Membership" it takes you to a page, which if you are logged in as a member contains a number of boxes with your details. Below all of these are (currently) three extra option choices. One says "BS Filter" - if the YES button is selected, when you look at the forum, it hides all the contents of the BS section. It sounds as if you have this one selected. Another button says "Mix Music & Non-music". If this is YES all threads are listed together regardless of whether they are "BS" or not. If you choose NO the BS appears as a separate section below the "serious" section. Of course. if you have already ticked the do not show BS, then the second button doesn't have any BS to mix in with the serious stuff. NOTE - the BS filters only work if you are a member and logged in. If you are a guest, the BS is by default there as a separate section. Quack! GtD. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: katlaughing Date: 28 Nov 08 - 10:48 AM If not a third section then at least more choices for types of thread designations as noted above AND more use of location designations, i.e. UK, US, NZ, etc. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: BB Date: 28 Nov 08 - 02:49 PM Thanks to all those who've helped this thicko - it's obvious if you think about it, isn't it? An 'ANN:' (Announce) pre-fix would work for notification of events, special club nights, tour listings or whatever, wouldn't it? I agree with the use of an abbreviation indicating the country in which it's to take place. Barbara |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: semi-submersible Date: 28 Nov 08 - 09:44 PM Another 2¢ worth: I don't want to banish announcements to a ghetto. I like McGrath of Harlow's suggestion of a tag to allow them to be filtered, and I like Barbara's ANN (Announce) prefix very much. I think it sounds more pleasant and useful than EPH (Ephemera), TEMP (Temporary), P&E (People and Events), CUR (Current), or any other label I could think up. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Joe Offer Date: 28 Nov 08 - 09:55 PM Uncle Dave - for you, I'd be willing to give "blue clicky" lessons. -Joe-
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Richard Bridge Date: 29 Nov 08 - 09:05 PM Welcome back. 30th Nov, 2am UK time. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Beer Date: 29 Nov 08 - 09:07 PM Now we can get our fix. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: katlaughing Date: 29 Nov 08 - 10:13 PM Buncha junkies! **BG** |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 29 Nov 08 - 10:17 PM YES! but there are worse addictions (like Facebook?) sandra |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: katlaughing Date: 29 Nov 08 - 10:56 PM Oh, yes! I am a Mudcataholic of many years...no holier-than- |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Leadfingers Date: 30 Nov 08 - 09:41 AM It WAS down earlier today , but back now !! Thanks Max |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: topical tom Date: 30 Nov 08 - 10:03 AM The Cat is back but there are only 12 posts in the music section and 16 in the b.s. section, November 30, 2008 at 10:03 A.M. Obviously work is still going on. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Amos Date: 30 Nov 08 - 10:19 AM Tom: THere are plenty of posts but the filter is only showing you the last day's worth, which is curtailed. If you set the filter at the top of the list to 3 days you'll see more. A |
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Subject: BS: Is Mudcat Doomed??? From: Bobert Date: 30 Nov 08 - 04:15 PM Well, well, well... Somethin' is going very wrong with Mudcat these days... I ain't no compudder wizzard but seems that it's kinda goin' in and out of consciousness with out being more than in... Sho nuff hate to see is burn out or fade away but... B~ |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Richard Bridge Date: 30 Nov 08 - 04:23 PM Well done Max |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Kampervan Date: 30 Nov 08 - 04:39 PM Mudcat - thank godness you're back. Facebook just doesn't cut it. Not even with pictures. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 30 Nov 08 - 04:46 PM ...the cat came back ... thanks Max sandra |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Sorcha Date: 30 Nov 08 - 04:48 PM Is he done yet? Are we there yet? |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Midchuck Date: 30 Nov 08 - 05:10 PM Mudcat has gone down in Deer hunting season every year since I've been on it. We Vermonters consider this entirely normal behavior. Peter |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Kampervan Date: 30 Nov 08 - 05:14 PM Please, Vermonters , don't be selfish. Think about the rest of us and suspend the deer hunting season! |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: artbrooks Date: 30 Nov 08 - 05:50 PM It is a matter of priorities...what is more important, Bambi or banter? |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Bobert Date: 30 Nov 08 - 05:53 PM banter... Screw Bambi... B~ |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 30 Nov 08 - 05:55 PM "I am a Mudcataholic of many years". Just one letter away from being a Mudcatholic then, kat... |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Herga Kitty Date: 30 Nov 08 - 05:58 PM Glad you're back, thanks Max - think I'm a mudcataholic too, but definitely not addicted to Facebook. Kitty |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: BB Date: 30 Nov 08 - 06:11 PM Bobert, there's a name for people like you! Barbara |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: My guru always said Date: 01 Dec 08 - 07:21 AM kat said: If not a third section then at least more choices for types of thread designations as noted above AND more use of location designations, i.e. UK, US, NZ, etc Perhaps a 2nd drop-down would be possible during thread creation for UK, USA, AUS, NZ etc?? |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: artbrooks Date: 01 Dec 08 - 07:28 AM I think that would only be useful for the proposed "gigs and announcements" section, Hils...and even so, I want to know when Cara has a new CD out. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: G-Force Date: 01 Dec 08 - 07:36 AM In our family, 'P&E' stands for pissed and embarrassing. As opposed to 'P&O' which is pissed and objectionable. 'ANN' might be better. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: GUEST,Mr Red Date: 01 Dec 08 - 07:56 AM Personally I would prefer a colour (or color) coded system that showed functions like Announcements and date sensitive information, or US and ROW (because it is a US site first and formost). The BS and Music separation works but I am always interested in a wide variety of things and colour coding allows us to scan and decide, whereas a system that hides sections would not be inclusive and Folk is epitomised by inclusivity. We are a broad church. The problem with sections is not as bad as a filter but colour is immediate. Background and font colour allows for combinatorial representation (and affords many shades (of opinion?). Maybe a <DIV> layer that can be shown when hovering over an "explanation" area/link. It can be done even with links CSS and HTML tags allow for it in all browsers. We could still call them blickies because it would not affect thread look and feel, only the list of threads. I know Max's philosophy is to not be too clever because there are many luddites out there with legacy equipment (And the dreaded IE7 that does thing differently because Bill Gates can). And a few webmeisters follow the same logic. We want to reach everyone we can. Inclusivity again! |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: jacqui.c Date: 01 Dec 08 - 08:07 AM banter... Screw Bambi... B~ Hmmmnnn....... Does the P-Vine know about this Bobert? |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: katlaughing Date: 01 Dec 08 - 12:14 PM Bite yer tongue, McGrath!:-) |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: semi-submersible Date: 01 Dec 08 - 06:12 PM Thanks again, Max, for the most astonishing feat of restoring Mudcat apparently without loss of data during any of the interruptions. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 01 Dec 08 - 06:26 PM Personally I'm about as interested generally in folk activities in Maine or Queensland as I am in activities in Yorkshire. I'm not likely to get along in either case (leaving aside say Whitby Folk Week), but if the thread is about the ins and outs of how things work, and about how they could work better etc, that's all relevant to me. If it's just about who's on next week, it's not really. So long as the thread heading indicates that kind of stuff, that's all I ask of it, and I think that can be done easily enough. I see no value in filtering out the threads I am probably not going to open, because I can't see any realistic way of doing that without filtering out threads I would be interested in opening. Still, if people wish to do that, so long as the thread titles contain the necessary information, we already have the facility to do it. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Leadfingers Date: 01 Dec 08 - 08:19 PM Hard though it may be , I HAVE to agree with Kevin (Sorry Mate ! Tongue in cheek there) but splitting the site into fragments will just make it harder to find what MAY be of interest ! Keep the Music together and leave the B S to be read or ignored on what the Title says . |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 12 Dec 08 - 12:48 AM Create a THIRD Area - between Mudcat Heaven and B.S. Hell
Keep Mudcat Discussions for folk/blues
Threads such as these should go there.
Excuses why a 'song' went wrong
Frequently misspelled/confused names.
Name Our Band!
sigma guitars
Stupidest song you ever heard.
Tech: HELP! Viruslab 2009, how eliminate?
Gig filler request, Kendrick-Needham
Tech: Cache viewing programs for browsers!
problems with myspace
Where are the sessions in Essex?
Review: Sidmouth '08
Kendall's book is back inprint
Last Night's Fun - Last chance to see
Recordings by Bill Price
Song Challenge ?
Statements you seldom hear at folk clubs
Miskin at Christmas
2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
Sitting At The Kitchen Table
Takamine for sale
KFFC Winter Warmer Weekend 20th-22nd Feb
What's On! (Who is Performing Where)
New Sunday afternoon Session in Hull
'Tyne Folk' @ the Welly
Wilsons in Sheffield 16 Dec.
Folk Club Manners
What's On in Herts/Beds, UK; Permathread
No New Barrack Session January
Black Swan FC, York-temp. venue change
Maybe Song Ssn Stoke N Kent Sun 28 Dec?
Sincerely,
need a major-domo to control the upper thread of heaven? - a gargoyle is available in 2009 - oh man doin fine - drinkin de wine - keepin klitter kritters in line - life devine - supline. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Barry Finn Date: 12 Dec 08 - 12:53 AM I'm very happy that MudSeason is now upon us, may it last all year long. You're my hero Max, grand job Barry |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: MartinRyan Date: 12 Dec 08 - 04:54 AM gargoyle My only suggestion for a third section would be one called B.B. : Badger baiting . I'm working on the defining characteristics - but I can think of a few candidates alright! Regards |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Sorcha Date: 12 Dec 08 - 05:58 PM So, Max...when can we use Mudchat again? I'm told that 'some people' are getting 'twitchy'! Not me...I have my own place now. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: wysiwyg Date: 18 Dec 08 - 01:35 PM WANTED A caps-lock fixer. A text case reformatter so those of us who regularly hit the capslock by mistake can easily and quickly save readers from unintended shouted posts without having to tretype every DAMNED word and without burdening helpful clones. Without a side trip to the word processor. But in the meantime I will ask clones to reformat them (when they are able), in THEIR word processors. :~) ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: dick greenhaus Date: 18 Dec 08 - 01:41 PM WYSIWYG- There's free downloaded program called CAPSDOWN that works well. |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: wysiwyg Date: 18 Dec 08 - 01:48 PM Hmm.... ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Amos Date: 18 Dec 08 - 01:53 PM Pop the capslock key off your keyboard and cover the stem of the switch with a plastic cap of appropriate dimension--I used some molded doohickey that was left over from assembling something or other. A |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: wysiwyg Date: 18 Dec 08 - 02:00 PM Lose even one coffee umbrella?!?!?!? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Update From: Bill D Date: 18 Dec 08 - 04:20 PM FirstCap...best available program |
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