BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:04 PM

Is this a sentence Carol?

Only part of one, Guest,27 Jul 05 - 10:40 AM. It's a continuation of what I started with the quotes, but forgot to use elipses and I mistakenly capitalized "seems".

I was not correcting his spelling, Guest, 27 Jul 05 - 10:44 AM. I was discussing his misuse of other people's words.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:18 PM

Well not a coherent reply then was it Carol.

Let's face you started picking on the language issue with a guy who's first language, I understand, is not English.

And you could always get a spell chucker.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: dianavan
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:29 PM

Guest - Speak for yourself.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:37 PM

Yes, it's true... I make mistakes. But it was still a coherent reply, even if it's not perfect.

I'm not picking on anyone. If Wolfgang is going to go around twisting people's words and taking them out of context to make irrelevant and highly questionable points at the expense of the people he is targeting, he is not making a coherent point, nor is he contributing to coherency in the discussion itself. Quite the opposite... he is creating confusion and he is obscuring real points that others have made.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:39 PM

Although I'll grant that the way I put it was snarky.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:43 PM

"non-combatant civilian deaths" can include according to Carol "someone's ancient grandfather who died peacefully in his sleep."?

What's the problem with that Wolfgang? That clearly would be a non-combatant civilian death. (And the terms are not synonymous - you can have civilians who are combatants, and military personnel who are non-combatants.)

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:46 PM

Then I'll admit I was "snarky" and we can all go back to playing guitar or whatever.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:58 PM

But here is the point I was making, and that has been obscured by nitpicking...

ALL of the deaths that occurred as a result of the invasion and occupation of Iraq by the US, Britain, and the "coalition", are the responsibility of the US, Britain, and the "coalition" countries, regardless of who did the killing.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 02:21 PM

Why don't you go and get a life.

Unfortunately those who died in 9/11 and 7/7 do not have that luxury anymore, use it don't abuse it.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 02:58 PM

Going back another step, of course, it's down to the architects of September 11, since without that Bush would never have been able to take the USA to war in Iraq, and Blair wouldn't have tagged along behind.

And, since the Iraq war has suited Al Qaeda down to the ground, it's another of their successful atrocities - and this time they got someone else to do it for them.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 03:15 PM

I can't see how discussing important issues equals not having a life. I do think that following people around and telling them to get a life certainly could be described as not having a life.

Invoking the victims of 9/11 as a way of trying to shut people up when they are discussing important issues is shameful. I don't think the victims of 9/11 would appreciate you doing that.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 03:30 PM

And, CarolC, it is your statement of responsibility that I do not agree with. As I have stated. We each have an opinion on the matter, but YOU are insisting that your opinion is fact with no supporting evidence.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 03:45 PM

I gave pleney of supporting evidence, beardedbruce. I can't help it if you have failed to read it.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 03:48 PM

What keeps on being ignored is that the war in Iraq is a triumph for the fanatics behind September 11th. It's helped them, it continues to help them. It might get presented as a "war against terror" but in real terms it is a war engineered by terrorists as a way of extending and deepening their power and influence.

This isn't football, it's chess. You win football by pushing forward and scoring. You win chess by out-thinking your opponent, thinking ahead and being willing to sacrifice pieces.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 04:02 PM

CarolC,

Let me correct my statement to " no convincing evidence".


I found your "evidence" lacking. You are mistaken in assuming that failure to agree with you means a failure to look at your points. I have given evidence as well: Would I be justified in saying that since you do not now agree with me, you must not have looked at it?

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: GUEST,Shakey
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 04:14 PM

Invoking the victims of 9/11 as a way of trying to shut people up when they are discussing important issues is shameful. I don't think the victims of 9/11 would appreciate you doing that.

That's the point Carol they're not here to support you are they and why not, because your friends murdered them

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: jpk
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 05:00 PM

seems to me carol,that your evidence looks more like excuses than any thing else,no matter how you dress it,it is still an excise.
out here they chg. the word cowshit into, organicaly produced soil nutrient,hoping that it would not stink as bad in the publics ear,still does in the nose.
kind of like your evidence.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 05:19 PM

My "friends" Shakey? I think they're your friends since you are the one who supports US and British foreign policy that keeps making them stronger and more dangerous. You too, jpk.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: jpk
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 05:28 PM

pampering makes them weaker?spoiled brats whine all the time to get there way too.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 05:56 PM

You must have an incredibly perverse definition for the word "pamper", jpk.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:56 PM

Have you tried sex for a change

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 07:16 PM

"your friends You know that's a lie, GUEST,Shakey.

You have shown that you are perfectly capable of arguing in a rational and a courteous way, and you must also know that that is far more convincing and effective. So why cheapen yourself like that?

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: GUEST,Shakey
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 08:21 PM

So why cheapen yourself like that?

There's a thread running that has more than 160 posts because the name of another thread got friggin changed.

What can I say? Sometimes the passion takes over.



Shakey
If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: jpk
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 04:59 PM

hey carol,ever think that another reason they do these things is for the high they get from the felling of power the percieve,or maybe they just enjoy the thought of causing people to die,using what ever excuse they can.

Subject: RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London?
From: CarolC
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 06:08 PM

jpk, some of our own military people have indicated that they experience just what you have described in war situations. And some of them have said that they enjoy it. So is it a good thing or a bad thing?