BS: Don Imus replacment

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: M.Ted
Date: 10 May 07 - 11:13 AM

Thanks for that little ray of sunshine, Dicky--it makes my day;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Dickey
Date: 10 May 07 - 10:14 AM

"...We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing shit, that's trying to get a nigga for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain't no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha fukas say we in the same league as him... "

http://www.hollywood.com/news/Snoop_Dogg_Rappers_Hos_Are_Different/3679198

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Donuel
Date: 09 May 07 - 04:47 PM

Lets have a sing off between the Mormon Tubercular Choir and Sharpton's Gospel Goons for God.

Let them all sing at the same time while Al tries to outshout Rush and Mitt.

Whoever can be heard wins.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: M.Ted
Date: 09 May 07 - 12:48 PM

I think Sharpton does believe in a different God--one that excuses his hatemongering--

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 May 07 - 10:06 AM

And who watches the watchers?

Sharpton accused of 'bigotry' after remark on faith
POSTED: 9:25 a.m. EDT, May 9, 2007

Story Highlights• Sharpton says he was referring to atheist author, not Romney, in remark
• Reverend: Real believers in God will beat the "one Mormon" running for president
• Romney spokesman says "bigotry" toward any religion is unacceptable
• Mormons "don't believe in God the way I do," Sharpton says in own defense

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BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP) -- The Rev. Al Sharpton, who recently urged that radio host Don Imus be fired for making a racially insensitive remark, said in a debate that "those who really believe in God will defeat" Republican Mitt Romney for the White House.

But Sharpton denied he was questioning the Mormon's own belief in God.

Rather, the New York Democrat said he was contrasting himself with Christopher Hitchens, the atheist author he was debating at the time.

"As for the one Mormon running for office, those who really believe in God will defeat him anyways, so don't worry about that; that's a temporary situation," Sharpton said Monday during a debate with Hitchens at the New York Public Library's Beaux-Arts headquarters.

The comment was first reported Tuesday in a blog on The New York Times' Web site.

The Romney campaign, which has been wary of campaign trail criticism of Romney's faith, jumped on the Sharpton comment. If elected, Romney would be the first Mormon to serve as president.

"It is terribly disheartening and disappointing to hear Reverend Sharpton offer such appalling comments about a fellow American's faith," said Romney spokesman Kevin Madden. "America is a nation of many faiths and common values, and bigotry toward anyone because of their beliefs is unacceptable."

Romney chimed in himself Monday during an appearance on the Fox News program "Hannity and Colmes."

"I think there are differences between different faiths in this country. And there will be battles between different religions," Romney said. "That's a great thing about this country. We don't decide who's going to be in office based on what church they go to."

In a tape of the debate, Sharpton can be heard defending the role of religion in the civil rights movement and shunning any suggestion that there wasn't a religious underpinning to the efforts of its leader, the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

Then Sharpton spoke of Romney, although a tape reviewed by The Associated Press does not reveal why.

In a later interview with the AP, Sharpton denied questioning Romney's belief in God and suggested the Romney camp was trying to stir up a controversy because of their political differences.

"What I said was that we would defeat him, meaning as a Republican," Sharpton said. "A Mormon, by definition, believes in God. They don't believe in God the way I do, but by definition, they believe in God."

He said he was contrasting himself and other believers with Hitchens, who is the author of a new book, "God Is Not Great."

Last month, Sharpton led the calls for Imus' ouster last month after the talk show host referred to members of the Rutgers University women's basketball team as "nappy-headed hos."

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 May 07 - 08:43 AM

Imus is one of a kind. That's why he was able to draw such a large audience.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Donuel
Date: 06 May 07 - 10:33 AM

saw the replacement on the show once. She didn't impress me enough to remember her name. The show as just a bunch of irreverant sarcastic mediocre junk. But then so was Imus.
Dickey,

exactly. but the guests were not the same ol war mongers.

I don't know her name either. Ummm its on the tip of my tongue, isn't that odd. IT started with D? or J? hmmm

Daryl Van Horne!

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 May 07 - 10:16 AM

Maybe they enjoyed their fifteen minutes of fame on the world stage and will want to keep it going.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 May 07 - 10:09 AM

or more likely everyone.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 May 07 - 10:09 AM

There were some mentions of "personal losses" as a result of being thrown in the spotlight. The team will sue someone. SIGH!

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 May 07 - 10:08 AM

Imus is suing. The seven second delay and the fact that his contract stated that they had five days to act on his breaking the contract if that's how they interpreted his comments. Hope he wins.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Dickey
Date: 05 May 07 - 10:07 AM

I saw the replacement on the show once. She didn't impress me enough to remember her name. The show as just a bunch of irreverant sarcastic mediocre junk. But then so was Imus. It seems to me that he just tried to make fun of anything about politics and he went too far.

But then that is just my personal opinion.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Donuel
Date: 05 May 07 - 09:23 AM

I like Judy who was on last Mon and Tue. I think she is related to Barry Goldwater

The Cindy Shehan phone interview was great.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Riginslinger
Date: 05 May 07 - 08:47 AM

Defamation of character, I suppose, or slander. They could mount a suit and get CBS to settle out of court. If they did, of course, Al Sharpton would probably be there with his hand out.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 04 May 07 - 12:12 PM

What possible grounds could the basketball team make to get money out of this?

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Riginslinger
Date: 04 May 07 - 11:51 AM

If Sharpton sues on behalf of the basketall team, is anybody taking any bets on who will end up with the money?

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: M.Ted
Date: 04 May 07 - 11:32 AM

And now right and wrong, if there even ever were such things, are no longer at issue--it's simply a matter of money. How long will it take Al Sharpton to file a lawsuit on behalf of the basketball team?

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 04 May 07 - 10:25 AM

A point came out today that I feel makes CBS and MSNBC very responsible for this.

The Imus show was on a seven second delay. There were people monitoring the broadcast and they were responsible for what went out over the air. IF they felt the comments were wrong, they could have "bleeped" it out.   Instead, they allowed the show THAT THEY SUPPORTED to continue.

I hope Imus takes them to the cleaners and gets the $40 million that he is owed by his contract.   While his words were disgusting, business is business. His employers knew what his program was about and they encouraged him by giving him a contract. It is their duty to honor it.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 07 - 10:25 AM

His contract guarantees him $40 million. If he sues he will get a portion of it but probably not the whole thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Riginslinger
Date: 04 May 07 - 10:23 AM

I think he needs to pursue the case in the name of freedom of expression.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 May 07 - 10:19 AM

$120 million was the figure cited in the news today in NYC. Surely, the injury to Mr. Imus's livelihood is worth more! And, yes, the offending words could came been deleted before boradcasting which makes a case for the broadcasting companies being contributors to the offense.

I do hope that Imus receives $1 in comphensation and an apology from the broadcasting companies. They owe him that much consideration.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, adrift in NYC

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Ron Davies
Date: 04 May 07 - 04:06 AM

He knew full well that the job expected him to "push the envelope" in being outrageous. And that there is a limit. And that there are consequences for crossing the limit. He also knew that it paid rather well. So he was willing to take on the risk. He lost. He should take the millions he's already "earned" and cry all the way to the bank. And stop whining.

CBS may well be culpable--since they knew what they were hiring him to do. But that does not let Imus off the hook.

My sympathy-- for them both--is limited.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Greg B
Date: 03 May 07 - 01:33 PM

I hope he wins. If they hired him to do a job, knowing full
well how he does the job, they ought not to fire him for
doing said job.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Donuel
Date: 03 May 07 - 01:27 PM

CBS : brought to you by Halliburton "We know who we're working for - but you won't"


a subsidiary of Kellog Brown & Root

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Riginslinger
Date: 03 May 07 - 01:00 PM

If Imus wins, I wonder if CBS will have to sell out to a major defense contractor to stay viable, like NBC did?

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 May 07 - 11:51 AM

Wednesday, May 02, 2007
Imus' contract allowed 'controversial' program

We have some breaking news tonight about Don Imus that is bound to get some attention. The stakes are enormous: $40 million.

Some background: Today's news cycle has already reported Don Imus has retained well-known attorney Martin Garbus in anticipation of a wrongful termination lawsuit against CBS. You'll recall after a week-long storm CBS fired Imus after his controversial remarks about the Rutgers women's baskeball team.

Now our news: CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin has obtained PART of Don Imus' contract with CBS Radio, including the clause that is at the heart of Imus' case. Toobin suggests it is a very unusual contract provision that may force CBS to pay off the $40 million remaining on Imus' contract.

"Company [CBS Radio] acknowledges its familiarity with the program Conducted by Artist [Imus] on the station [WFAN] prior to company's ownership thereof and it, and its familiarity with the reviews and comments, both favorable and unfavorable concerning Artist and his material by critics, reviewers and writers of the various media both in New York and nationally. Company acknowledges that Artist's services to be rendered hereunder are of a unique, extraordinary, irreverent, intellectual, topical, controversial and personal character and that programs of the same general type and nature containing these components are desired by Company and are consistent with Company rules and policies."

Tonight, we'll have Jeff Toobin and much more about what this means about Imus, CBS and what big media companies are actually expecting, if not encouraging, from some of their talent. CBS had no comment on this story.


-- By David Doss, "360" Executive Producer
Posted By CNN: 8:55 PM ET

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 04:33 PM

I think the cartoon got it backwards. It was "Big Media" who told Imus to shut up, at least for the moment.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 06:25 PM

they say sacred mushrooms transfer their punch through urine, so why not punch up the punch.


;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
cartoon

Fat man with tee shirt that says Big Media says to a little guy labled joe public,,, "Can I say one more thing about Imus?"
little guy says "shut up"

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Riginslinger
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 04:08 PM

"but the guy who will get most of the attention will be the one who jumps up on the table and pisses in the punchbowl."


               Nothing wrong with that, as long as it improves the punch.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 23 Apr 07 - 09:10 AM

Apparently he wasn't a coward either ... !

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: kendall
Date: 23 Apr 07 - 09:08 AM

Bill M. made the mistake of telling the truth. He said that the people who flew those planes into the towers were not cowards as they have been called.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Apr 07 - 10:42 PM

What is accomplished when the parody performers or the cartoonists are fired or killed while the ills they made fun of, go on unscathed?

kill the messenger, never mind the diaster.

"we" need comedy in all its forms to have the national or international discussions. We don't need to punish or kill the comics.

Bill Mahre was fired too. I'm glad he came back.
Of course when I tried to tella BIll Mahre joke I got in trouble too.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 22 Apr 07 - 10:28 PM

Don - Sounds like you go to some pretty wild parties ...

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Apr 07 - 10:22 PM

"(Remark made on the NPR news comedy quiz, "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me," Sat., Apr. 21, 2007."

Don Ho died this week and despite his age he had 2 babies at home.
Considering they are still in diapers you have to admit he had nappy bottomed Ho's.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 07 - 01:10 PM

Don: Oh so well put.    By the way---another great line on that editions of WWDTM was the honor to Larry King"...Fifty years since he threw out the first softball""

Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Apr 07 - 01:03 PM

True, indeed. But there are various kinds of attention. At a party, for example, one can get a fair amount of attention by being a witty and knowledgeable conversationalist, but the guy who will get most of the attention will be the one who jumps up on the table and pisses in the punchbowl.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Riginslinger
Date: 22 Apr 07 - 09:38 AM

"(Remark made on the NPR news comedy quiz, "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me," Sat., Apr. 21, 2007."


          It is, in fact, a great show, and very entertaining, but Imus was on 5 days a week, 4 hours a day, and appealed to a much broader audience.

          The point being, if you're going to change anybody's mind you have to get their attention first.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Apr 07 - 07:43 PM

Yeah, Bill. One of my favorite shows. I try never to miss it. A really quick-witted bunch, and sometimes they leave me snickering for days.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 21 Apr 07 - 06:30 PM

You beat me to the punch on that one---what a great line that was and what a clever show that is. (Wait Wait etc;)   The line after--if you recall--- had to do with the fact that Don Ho had some 12 kids (or so) 20 grand children (or so) and 2 great grandchildren which as one of the panelists said "...with all the diapers and sleeping going on lots of nappy little Hos."


Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Apr 07 - 01:31 PM

". . . and Don Ho was not even his real name. That's just what Don Imus called him. . . ."

(Remark made on the NPR news comedy quiz, "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me," Sat., Apr. 21, 2007.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Apr 07 - 10:52 AM

In the final analysis, I think I've come to the conclusion that Imus did more favorable things than he did bad things.

             He was abrasive and insulting, but he kept the attention of an audience who normally would pay little attention to what was going on in the world, or the personalities involved.

             I really don't blame Gwen Ifil for reacting the way she did, and given the way Imus insulted her, I think she was totally justified. But Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson were only out to use the incident to toot their own horns.

             I don't see Sharpton and Jackson out apologizing for the ridiculous things they said about the Duke La Cross players.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 07 - 04:12 PM

Imus' sidekick-producer fired
POSTED: 3:01 p.m. EDT, April 20, 2007

Story Highlights• Bernard McGuirk fired from WFAN-AM/New York
• McGuirk's remarks led to Don Imus' infamous phrase
• McGuirk had been Imus' producer for 20 years

NEW YORK (AP) -- The longtime producer for Don Imus' syndicated radio show joined his boss on the unemployment line one week after the disgraced broadcaster was booted from the airwaves for racist and sexist comments about the Rutgers women's basketball team.

Bernard McGuirk, who joined the "Imus in the Morning Show" as producer in 1987, was let go late Thursday by WFAN-AM for his role in the ugly incident, CBS Radio spokeswoman Karen Mateo said Friday. CBS Inc., the parent company for WFAN, pulled Imus off the air on April 12.

McGuirk was one of Imus' frequent on-air foils, and was involved in the now-infamous "nappy-headed hos" exchange that left both without jobs. He provided much of the program's dicier content, a great deal of it while doing over-the-top impressions of the late Cardinal John O'Connor and New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin.

Imus, in an oft-repeated schtick, would deride McGuirk as a "bald-headed stooge" when the material veered into dangerous territory. McGuirk also handled the booking of Imus' guests, a group which ran the gamut from presidential candidates to mainstream media pundits.

Mateo declined to provide any further details about the McGuirk situation. McGuirk was noticeably absent this week when other Imus contributors, including newsman Charles McCord and sportscaster Chris Carlin, were on the air with the WFAN replacement team of Mike Francesa and Chris "Mad Dog" Russo. Another Imus regular, comedian Rob Bartlett, appeared Friday on the Opie and Anthony morning show. But McGuirk has made no public comments about the controversy since the Imus firing.

CBS Radio had yet to decide on a permanent replacement for Imus on the New York station, Mateo said. Francesa and Russo were slated to do one more week of mornings in place of Imus, whose show was syndicated on 60 other stations nationally. WFAN was the flagship station for the Imus show.

It was McGuirk who first used the term "hos" while discussing the NCAA women's championship game between Rutgers and Tennessee. Imus described the Rutgers team, which includes eight black women, as tattooed "rough girls" during the April 4 broadcast.

"Some hardcore hos," replied McGuirk.

"That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that," Imus said during the 10-second exchange that ignited a national debate over racist and misogynistic language and lyrics.

Imus was expected to meet with CBS Radio officials to settle the remainder of his recently signed five-year, multimillion-dollar contract. McGuirk's contract status was unknown; he had joined the radio station in 1984 when it was WNBC.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: kendall
Date: 20 Apr 07 - 09:05 AM

BB, we agree on something. That's a start. It's too bad that it has come to this, that someone wants government regulation of free speech.But, there it is. I'm not in favor of government regulation in this case, but we own the airways, Not Don Imus or Howard Stern. Call me old fashioned, but I liked the times past when people had respect for others and themselves. Anyone who must use gutter language to express themselves have little to say that interests me.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: kendall
Date: 20 Apr 07 - 09:00 AM

LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 04:57 PM

The NJ govenor crashed at 92MPH?

Well the previous Govenor of New Jersey left office after admitting he was gay.

So its not the first time a NJ governor was rear ended.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 04:48 PM

"To that other comment on being offended, there was a time not many years ago when it was illegal to swear or use vulgar labguage in public. There was no inquisition, just common consideration for others. Too much to ask of the adolescent sewer mouths of today I guess"

I agree with you on this- it is the idea of GOVERNMENT regulation/LAWS concerning what id acceptable speech that I am against. I have no problem with civility enforced by SOCIAL pressure- One does not need to invite people who offend one's sense of propriety. BUT the idea that the "GOVERNMENT should do something" or that the FCC should enforce standards ( especially in an un-evenhanded manner) IS a problem.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 05:45 PM

BB, I have had my glasses on since Bush first ran for president. You make a good point with BuSHITE. But as you know shite is not a word native to America, and I didn't make the connection.

To that other comment on being offended, there was a time not many years ago when it was illegal to swear or use vulgar labguage in public. There was no inquisition, just common consideration for others. Too much to ask of the adolescent sewer mouths of today I guess.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Greg B
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 05:40 PM

Latest quirk in this whole thing is that the SUV of Gov.
Corzine was speeding at 91MPH, being driven by a State
Cop, when it went off the road. This isn't the first
'speeding gubernatorial motorcade' scandal in the Garden
State in the last decade or so.

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: Amos
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 10:56 AM

"The culture that has given us such wonders as jazz, blues, baseball, Hollywood, the Broadway musical theater, rock 'n' roll, and on and on, is now specializing in too many instances in language and entertainment fit only for the gutter or a sewer.

Something has gone completely haywire when young American boys and girls are listening to songs like "Can You Control Yo Hoe" and "Break a Bitch Til I Die," by Snoop Dogg, formerly Snoop Doggy Dogg, formerly Cordozar Calvin Broadus.

"It's gotten pretty savage out there," said Tom Brokaw of NBC News during an on-air discussion of the Imus situation.

Mr. Brokaw, who believes that firing Mr. Imus was the right thing to do, said: "There's been an absence of civility in public discourse for some time now. The use of language across the racial spectrum, and across the political spectrum, and across the cultural spectrum, has been, in any way you want to describe it, debased to a certain degree.

"The words that you hear used commonly on the street, or on the air, or on radio, or in rap lyrics, are words that in the worst days of segregation in this country, in the worst segregated parts of this country, you would not have heard on radio. Now you hear them commonly."

The language, of course, is just a symptom. Mr. Brokaw went on to mention, in a tone that sounded a bit sad and somewhat resigned, that Americans had steadfastly refused to face the race issue honestly and head-on. "I had hoped," he said, "I guess somewhat naïvely 20 years ago, that we would be in a far different place than we are now."

We should also be in a better place in the way that women are viewed and portrayed in the culture. And one of the first steps in a conversation about how to honestly address these issues should be a discussion of how to get more more blacks, other ethnic minorities and women into positions of real authority in the major news and entertainment outlets.

Another part of the conversation should deal with why the bullying and degradation of other human beings is such a staple of popular entertainment in this country. One of the Rutgers players expressed astonishment Thursday night when Mr. Imus told her that making fun of people was how he'd made his living for many years.

The people who fought back against the racism and misogyny of the "Imus in the Morning" program need to keep the momentum going. Keep the pressure on the companies that sponsor this garbage. Keep the matter before the media.

Imus, Snoop Dogg, Michael Savage — it doesn't matter where the bigotry is coming from. What's important is to find the integrity and the strength to see it for what it is — a loathsome, soul-destroying disease — and then to respond accordingly. "

Excerpt from a NY Times column By Bob Herbert
Published: April 16, 2007

Subject: RE: BS: Don Imus replacment
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 09:40 AM

On the other hand, if we STOP talking, does that mean that we're actually going to do something, or that we're NOT EVEN going to talk? The talk SHOULD be just the beginning ...

I think most people would agree with this article - but I think many will take the wrong message from it - not that something should be done about the underlying social problems (which are seemingly so complicated that no one can do anything about them anyway), but that we shouldn't be bothered doing anything even about the irritants on the surface, because what do they really matter? In other words, some people will use the arguments in the article to reinforce their passivity rather than to support social activism.