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Catters on Facebook

Dave Sutherland 02 Jun 09 - 04:12 PM
Bill D 02 Jun 09 - 04:28 PM
GUEST,jOhn 03 Jun 09 - 06:25 AM
jeddy 03 Jun 09 - 06:47 AM
GUEST,jOhn 04 Jun 09 - 03:58 AM
katlaughing 09 Jun 09 - 12:06 PM
Georgiansilver 09 Jun 09 - 02:36 PM
katlaughing 30 Jul 09 - 12:05 PM
Severn 30 Jul 09 - 01:34 PM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 30 Jul 09 - 02:01 PM
PoppaGator 30 Jul 09 - 03:21 PM
GUEST,Peace 30 Jul 09 - 03:26 PM
GUEST,Peace 30 Jul 09 - 03:27 PM
jeddy 30 Jul 09 - 03:40 PM
Jeri 30 Jul 09 - 03:51 PM
PoppaGator 30 Jul 09 - 04:05 PM
GUEST,Phil Cooper on the sig-o's computer 30 Jul 09 - 04:14 PM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 31 Jul 09 - 05:27 AM
Richard Bridge 31 Jul 09 - 06:40 AM
jeddy 31 Jul 09 - 07:28 AM
Jean(eanjay) 31 Jul 09 - 07:38 AM
jeddy 31 Jul 09 - 07:42 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 31 Jul 09 - 01:31 PM
VirginiaTam 31 Jul 09 - 02:10 PM
jeddy 31 Jul 09 - 02:20 PM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 31 Jul 09 - 02:42 PM
VirginiaTam 31 Jul 09 - 03:00 PM
katlaughing 31 Jul 09 - 03:13 PM
VirginiaTam 31 Jul 09 - 03:26 PM
katlaughing 31 Jul 09 - 03:35 PM
Lizzie Cornish 1 31 Jul 09 - 05:26 PM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 01 Aug 09 - 09:23 AM
jeddy 01 Aug 09 - 12:29 PM
katlaughing 02 Aug 09 - 12:05 AM
GUEST,Russ Meyer 02 Aug 09 - 04:12 AM
VirginiaTam 02 Aug 09 - 06:02 AM
Penny S. 02 Aug 09 - 06:22 AM
VirginiaTam 02 Aug 09 - 07:12 AM
jeddy 02 Aug 09 - 07:16 AM
GUEST,Peace 02 Aug 09 - 12:44 PM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 02 Aug 09 - 03:43 PM
GUEST 02 Aug 09 - 04:18 PM
Sue Allan 02 Aug 09 - 06:06 PM
Richard Bridge 02 Aug 09 - 08:46 PM
VirginiaTam 03 Aug 09 - 07:06 AM
Amergin 03 Aug 09 - 07:24 AM
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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 04:12 PM

I've just put a photo or two of our new granddaughter on Facebook

Dave Sutherland


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 04:28 PM

I went there ONCE to see the generic Mudcat place, to see what it had. I did nothing and said nothing....and suddenly my mailbox is full of people adding me. I actually know maybe 2/3 of them.

I don't think my brain is wired for a site that 'introduces' you, even when you are standing in the shadows trying to be inconspicuous.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 06:25 AM

i joined it a while ago, but only just started using it. a few things i don't understand=how do i get the chat to work? i click on the chat thing but it just says loading, but never loads! how do i find groups that i want to join? is there a list of them somewhere? [so far i,ve only joined groups that my freinds have joined.
how do i send a mesage to just a few people, for example if i want to remind about a folk session in hull, people not in hull wont be bothered etc.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: jeddy
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 06:47 AM

about not getting chat to work, jOhn. have you tried doing it through firefox?
my explorer went funny yesterday so i tried switching and it worked or you could try the other way round. don.t worry about not bothering anyone elseit's always nice to read what others are up to!! as for the groups not sure i'm sure that soeone else can help.
x x


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 03:58 AM

thanks jeddy.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 12:06 PM

FYI - I have deleted my facebook account.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 02:36 PM

On facebook as Michael Hill (wearing white shirt and beige trousers) and on Mudcatters on facebook.
Best wishes, Mike.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 12:05 PM

In case anyone is wondering, once again someone has taken my photo from Mudcat and posted a bogus membership as "Kat Coffey" on facebook and was a Mudcat Cafe "friend" until Max deleted them. Facebook has deleted it at least once and will be again. I notice a couple of folks are marked as her "friends." Please be advised you are not communicating with me and their use of my photo is illegal.

Thanks,

kat


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Severn
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 01:34 PM

I find Facebook a good way to talk to folks one-on-one and keep up with those I miss talking with when Mudchat goes into temporary eclipse or there is uneasy feuding among old friends. I miss the dynamic of multiple person conversations (They seem to be coming back of late) in Mudchat, but find Facebook a good way to talk to Catters individually, my daughter and other relatives and to lots of people on the local DC and Baltimore music scenes. And there's photo galleries of friends, some of which are pertinent to me or are enjoyable to view.

Of course, lots of cutesy, if well-intentioned, spam comes my way and invitations to participate in games, surveys and fantasies I don't have time for, so there's lots of editing and sorting to do, but it's good for the things I actually use it for.

It grows on you, in more ways than one. I joined up to keep up with one friend made on a UK trip and somehow have about a hundred people listed as friends, all tied in to other friends and activities, of course. Shared friends being the pedigree I look for and filter through. But I'm there for individual conversation with those who I'd want to speak with.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 02:01 PM

Sorry, but I won't be joining anytime. EVER!

Richard Bridge, John Barden (Barden of England), Fisheye, myself, and several other Catters are being cloned on Facebook, as Folkies Supporting the British Nazi Party.

A photo of me, stolen from a U-Tube Video has been superimposed on a BNP poster, so it purports to show me playing in front of Nick Griffin.

For any of you who see this, until I manage to persuade Facebook that it isn't me, let me assure you that the only way I would support that scum is with a good strong rope, applied correctly with a hangman's knot.

Ditto Facebook. If they can't, or won't, remove that filth, I will have nothing to do with them.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: PoppaGator
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 03:21 PM

Shortly after I joined a month or two ago, FB became my first-choice website for occasional malingering at work (replacing Mudcat). The postings I read and write there tend to be much shorter, so I'm in and out much more quickly and back to business, and no longer get caught and sometimes scolded.

Unfortunately, our receptionist, who sits in a much more visible location than I do, had her Facebook page up on her monitor all that time, so the boss finally blocked the site, so here I am back here again (grin).

I'm in occasional touch with a random selection of Mudcatters on FB, but I am much more involved with other friends and family members, especially my two sons who are both pursuing careers in comedy, Cassidy in New York and Mike here at home in New Orleans. Also, quite a few of their contemporaries and friends are now among my FB "friends," and we enjoy a great deal of wisecracking and exchanging of one-liners. I have another bunch of FB friends who are friends-of-friends of my kid brother (10 years younger) who lives in England.

Facebook allows you to "block" all input from any specified individual friend(s). I would prefer an option to block selected categories of postings. I have no desire to cut off any person completely ~ I'm glad to see everyone's thoughts, statuses, links to articles/videos/music, etc. On the other other hand, I don't want to see anyone's game-playing activities, quiz results, how much of the environment they supposedly saved by trading virtual trees or cows or fishes or whatever, etc.

At first, I "befriended" just about anyone that the FB robots suggested to me (on the basis of mutual friends, appearing in each other's email address books, etc.) Now I don't do that anymore, but I do say "yes" to just about any personal friend-request made by any individual.

If you want to find me, my FB name (i.e., real name) is Tom Henehan. Also, you can check my "group" page entitled "Old Hippy Shit."

PS: Kat, I can't believe that anyone would pose as another person (e.g., you) ~ what a freakin' bummer! Fortunately, I have no such experience. My son Cassidy had a somewhat similar experience on MySpace, where someone, apparently an enthusiastic fan, set up a page in his name, creating a bit of confusion but no harm done. On his own real page, he had to write "This is the REAL Cass..." Go figure.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: GUEST,Peace
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 03:26 PM

and I posted a thread that said:

"The BNP have attacked about six to eight musicians on Facebook. However, it's OK for the same BNP folks to post here on Mudcat. Yet if any of the people who have been attacked speak harshly to the BNP scum we have our posts deleted. FYI.

Fuckin' ban me, Joe, because I have just become your worst nightmare. This is two-faced shit. No matter how far up your ass Georgina Simmons is."


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: GUEST,Peace
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 03:27 PM

The thread was deleted within two minutes, BTW.
    Of course it was deleted. What did you expect, with a thread titled "personal attacks"? You have no right to post personal attacks, no matter how much you hate your target.
    So, tell me where we can reach common ground on this? You oppose the BNP. I oppose the BNP. However, I have to require civil conduct and I'm bound to delete personal attacks. Where can we find a resolution?
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: jeddy
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 03:40 PM

hello all,
tom, i do try not to publish the results anymore as i agree they do become tiresome.

i am a happy pixie today as i have a clone on BEBO.
i have contacted them, but if you get a mesage from 'me' then i am sorry but you must be doing something right in order to gain their attention

i used to say yes to anyone who asked too but got bored at being asked to look at photos of young women who don't want to talk just parade around looking provocative.    i know such a hardship, most of you are thinking, but it gets very tiresome after a while.

take care all

jade x x x x


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 03:51 PM

Yeah, well some people sympathize with racist xenophobes and think Mudcat ought to serve as a forum for what they stand for.

As for the Facebook annoyance, I hope everybody whose name and image it has stolen has reported him. The administration there ought to be able to figure out where it's all coming from and delete it. I believe Wikipedia managed to oust it.

Max once said something about letting the 'law of the playground' sort things out. That would work better than deleting message by only those with enough integrity to use their own identities.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: PoppaGator
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 04:05 PM

Jeddy/Jade, you can just forward them nekkid-lady pitchures to me, heh heh! (just kidding)


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: GUEST,Phil Cooper on the sig-o's computer
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 04:14 PM

I guess now that facebook has given us some screen name options, you can find me at www.facebook.com/phil.cooper2 I haven't tried to do that, but that's what I've heard.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 05:27 AM

There's no point going off at half cock, Peace, and there's certainly no justification for attacking Joe.

Joe Offer does what he has to do, for the benefit of all here on Mudcat.

The BNP have to be confronted directly at every opportunity, IMHO, but there's a difference between pointing out their evil, and spouting torrents of personally aimed abuse.

You, more than most, have the ability to help show these Nazis up for the evil scum they are, but not by descending to their level mate.

The more swearing you indulge in, the more your message gets lost in the mire.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 06:40 AM

I agree Joe has a difficult line to walk. My decisions would not always be the same as his. I do think it is important not to treat our own less favourably than the BNP brain-dead. That's as far as I'm going in public on this occasion.


The fake Don is still up there at http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000144397474

and I am concerned that facebook is so slow to react (and sometimes fails to react) to "report" messages.

It might make the point if a whole bunch of us went over and reported that that fake Don is a fake Don and a breach of their user terms.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: jeddy
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 07:28 AM

you can decline to be part of any advertising. simply hover over settings and click privacy. then click wall. then next to the box at the top you will see adverts. click that and select no one in the options. job done.

beware what photos you post too as there are kiddy fidders about who are copying pics of kids and selling them.

take care all

jade x x x


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 07:38 AM

Jeddy, thanks for that - I've just done it so I hope that it will make things a bit better for my friends.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: jeddy
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 07:42 AM

you are very welcome eanjay. i had to be tod how to do it so i am just passing it on.

have a great day all

jade x x x x x


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 01:31 PM

How do you do it when you don't have a Facebook account, and don't want one, so you can't get in, Jade?

Don T


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 02:10 PM

Don

I went in and reported the profile as fake.

You can send an email to info@facebook.com including the link Richard posted and request that it be removed.

That is what TheSilentOne did. He is not on facebook either.

The fake me is still up after weeks of emails and reporting. There is a new fake John Barden too, that wasn't there 2 days ago.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: jeddy
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 02:20 PM

if any of you get a message from   'me    on bebo couldyou forward it to me here through PM please? i have reported it but not sure if it has been shut down yet.   

i have reported all the fakes i have been getting on FB too. i think it added up to about 10 people last time i went through them.

if you want some proof any of you who have clones, i have kept most of the messages so just ask and i will send them to you.

take care all

jade x x x x

PS   sorry don i haven't a clue, but like VT said there is a link somewhere, or PM lizzie nd she will have loads of details. x x x x


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 02:42 PM

I sent three E-Mails to info@facebook.com, Tam, and all three bounced.

I'll try once more though, just in case.

I need advice as to whether this is actionable on grounds of defamation, identity theft, or simple infringement of intellectual property rights in the use of the stolen image.

Also, does anyone know the likely cost of taking out an injunction?

Facebook's terms and conditions may protect them up down and sideways against legal action, and give them all sorts of rights over anything I upload, but I don't see how they can wriggle out from under, when they are aiding and abetting theft, and defamation, by allowing these profiles to remain after being informed that they are fake.

Don T


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 03:00 PM

This is really getting me down. Obviously the cowardly culprick making these fake profiles in Facebook, is a mudcatter.

I hate feeling like I am being stalked, something s/he had to do through the threads to find pictures and names.

Makes me feel shaky and unwell. More shaky and unwell than usual.

I just want the damn thing removed but it looks like Facebook is ignoring me.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 03:13 PM

Try all of these:

abuse@facebook.com, privacy@facebook.com, domain@facebook.com, info@facebook.com


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 03:26 PM

I have Kat. Several weeks ago. And again a few days ago.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 03:35 PM

Oh, sorry, VTam. I have just sent them another concerning the fake one of me. I notice there is someone on the FB Mudcat group who has a support the BNP logo for their photo. I don't know about any of you, but I wouldn't join just because of that. I know, I don't like them on here, either, but there it is so much more blatant with the visual. No thank you. There also seems to be some other bogus ones which I haven't seen before, including a "Lisa Garvey-Jones?"


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 31 Jul 09 - 05:26 PM

"I need advice as to whether this is actionable on grounds of defamation, identity theft, or simple infringement of intellectual property rights in the use of the stolen image.

Also, does anyone know the likely cost of taking out an injunction?

Facebook's terms and conditions may protect them up down and sideways against legal action, and give them all sorts of rights over anything I upload, but I don't see how they can wriggle out from under, when they are aiding and abetting theft, and defamation, by allowing these profiles to remain after being informed that they are fake."



Don, I'm in full agreement with you.

In fact, I think we should find out how much it would cost, then all join together in whatever way we can and sue the backside of Facebook for what they're allowing to happen on there.   I also think we should get the press involved if possible, because the BNP certainly wouldn't like that publicity, and neither would Facebook...who are basically allowing 'defamation of character' to happen on their site.

Someone send for Billy Bragg!

I wrote to Billy's page about this, over on Myspace and asked them to let him know what's going on. Perhaps others should write to him too? I'd not be surprised if they've cloned Billy's page as well.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 01 Aug 09 - 09:23 AM

Some good news.

It seems that URL is now unavailable, which suggests that Facebook MAY have woken up.

For those who might like to follow my example, the following are the E-Mails I sent.

1. In response to a suggestion that I visit their help section and read the FAQs. (you have to log in to your account to do this):-

I do not need the answers to questions.
I am not a Facebook contributor.
The British Nazi Party supporter who posted this crap used a stolen
photograph of me, and has, literally, stolen my identity.
I am a semi professional folk singer/songwriter, whose politics are light years away from these Fascist scum, and my living is compromised if I allow
them to tarnish my reputation. The only way that I would ever support them is with a good strong rope, correctly applied.
If you cannot keep these scum off your website, then they will wreck YOUR reputation too.

Get rid of all references to me. Immediately!

2. In response to a list of further questions from them:-

Please explain to me exactly which part of   "I do not have a Facebook account" you are having so much trouble understanding?

I do not know the name of the account holder. He/she is using my mame which, surprisingly enough, is Don Thompson.
I do not know what networks may be associated with the account, if any, because IT IS NOT MY ACCOUNT!
The URL I have been given by a friend is:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000144397474
I have no knowledge of any E-Mail addresses associated with the registration of the account, because IT IS NOT MY ACCOUNT!
The profile picture is a framed picture of Nick Griffin (British National (Nazi) Party leader), with a stolen picture of myself apparently singing and playing guitar at a BNP rally. The frame bears the words British Folkies Support British Folk Music.

This British folkie would like to see Mr Griffin and his racist, fascist, mob of thugs and criminals supported by a decent rope apiece, but that is not the point.

The point is that claiming that I support their evil means, and even more evil aims and objectives, is destroying my reputation, defaming my character, and seriously affecting my bookability as a performing artist.

Kindly comply with my wishes and expunge all mention of me from your site, else you are wantonly abetting all the above, and I WILL take action.

Don Thompson (the real one)

SEEMS TO HAVE WORKED!
Don T.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: jeddy
Date: 01 Aug 09 - 12:29 PM

congrats don, that was one hell of an email! i might be using that on bebo soon.
goodluck to all thise that are not themselves right now.

take care all

jade x x x


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Aug 09 - 12:05 AM

Thanks, Don. I may use that one with some editing or cross the pond, no -pro musician, but pro-author! I did write to them, again, with the threat of legal action if they do not get it taken care of; they did the first time, but why do they keep letting it happen? We'll see. I do think a concerted effort...petition, google group to combat the crap, or whatever would be helpful and I have access to some major, nationwide media emails for press releases. I'm not sure if they are all up to date and they are just USA, but so am I so there is some relevance.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: GUEST,Russ Meyer
Date: 02 Aug 09 - 04:12 AM

Social networking website Facebook encourage people to build "transient relationships" that can leave them traumatised and even suicidal when they collapse. I have concerns about the rise of individualism in society.

These sites encourage people to put too much emphasis on the number of friends they have rather than on the quality of their relationships.

People throw themselves into a friendship or network of friendships, then it collapses and they're desolate. It's an all or nothing syndrome that you have to have in an attempt to shore up an identity, a collection of friends about whom you can talk and even boast. But friendship is not a commodity, friendship is something that is hard work and enduring when it's right.

Archbishop Nichols said the internet and mobile phones were "dehumanising" community life and that relationships had been weakened by the decline in face-to-face meetings.

"I think there's a worry that an excessive use or an almost exclusive use of text and emails means that as a society we're losing some of the ability to build interpersonal communication that's necessary for living together and building a community.

"We're losing social skills, the human interaction skills, how to read a person's mood, to read their body language, how to be patient until the moment is right to make or press a point. Too much exclusive use of electronic information dehumanises what is a very, very important part of community life and living together."


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 02 Aug 09 - 06:02 AM

Facebook was originally intended to help people who are already networked (past or present) in real life to keep or reestablish contact.

guest Russ - only people who are already isolationist and fragile would rely only on something like Facebook (or Mudcat for that matter) for all human interaction.

    concerns about the rise of individualism in society.

Do you really mean that? That is the scariest line I have ever heard.

The problem is that individualism is not celebrated, embraced and seen as something good and attainable by all. The problem is there are too many sheep who can't and won't think for themselves.

The mob is the untruth.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Penny S.
Date: 02 Aug 09 - 06:22 AM

I think that what he is meaning by individualism is the "Me, me, me" attitude, which is the dark side of the celebrated sort of individualism which society ought to build towards.

There was a piece in a recent New Scientist (I think - if not, the Guardian) about how crowds actually work well. It cited the way that Hillsborough fans worked to rescue others among other cases, and then described how the authorities seeing, and treating crowds as a problem, actually caused trouble. Kettle harmless folk, and they protest more actively. A mob is, I suppose, the dark side of a crowd. What you get when you try to treat them like sheep.

What's scared me a couple of times has been people stating (almost the same words, different places, different groups) "this is democracy, we've elected you to make the decisions" with an implication that further consultation was not necessary. some people want to be sheep.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 02 Aug 09 - 07:12 AM

Point taken, Penny.

Self-centeredness might have been a better choice of word. Self-centeredness seems to have been growing in prevalence (at least in media) in a specific generation as long as I can remember (I am 51). The latest culmination of the "me, me, me" mentality is the current global financial crisis and the most long lasting is the damage to the environment.

The mob reference was a direct quote from Kierkegaard, meaning that the mob of one mind is not made up of individuals. A negative connotation in that the mob perpetrates negative deeds, because it does not bear individuals who would sensibly deter it.

A group who work together to do a good work with a like mind, is made up of individuals who take a conscious decision to be part of a positive deed.

The ones who decide to be sheep are the scariest of all. They wish to hand over all responsibility to others.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: jeddy
Date: 02 Aug 09 - 07:16 AM

russ, well done, you seem to have followed my advice.

i kind of understand the point you were making. friendship should be nurtured and cherished in real life as well as over the internet.
i also get what you mean about some people are so socially enept that their internet friends are the only ones they really have.
like penny said they are the ones who are most at risk of being scarred by any friendships that go wrong.

while modern technology(?) lets us keep in touch so much easier, it also makes us forget some of the nicer ways of life before we had it, like letter writing.   i am so glad that i have discovered mudcat as it seems that this skill is still alive but has just changed format.

alot of people have forgotten how to think for themselves, you only have to take a look at the latest fashoin to see this. people are wearing things that don't suit them, just because it is seen to be trendy.
this following the trend starts at school. liking certain types of music, what you wear, who you hang out with. these are all types of herding.
school also teaches you to think a certain way and you are not allowed to question what you are being taught.
this system follows one into adulthood, if you let it. making alot of people just follow the crowd, they do not really have to think for themselves. it is very sad but true. the people who were shunned and picked on in school are the ones who are most at risk of being hurt by online relationships.
i myself have been hurt by the ending of an online friendship, and i had to remind myself that i didn't actually know this person in the first place. having said that i have made some wonderful friends both here and on facebook and i hope i will continue to do so.

take care all

jade x x x x x


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: GUEST,Peace
Date: 02 Aug 09 - 12:44 PM

Facebook has allowed the stealing of many identities on Facebook. Some of the stoln ids are Mudcatters. Over a half dozen. FYI.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 02 Aug 09 - 03:43 PM

In order to open an account on Facebook, or indeed on almost any internet site, you have to give personal information which allows them to contact you by means other than the web.

I would like to know what action Facebook takes against those who steal other's identities in order to destroy their reputations.

IMO, these people should have their IPs, and home addresses blocked from internet service providers, so that they cannot use the web for ANY purpose.

Facebook knows who they really are, and should act in our behalf to remove them.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 09 - 04:18 PM

A waste of time Don, they just grow again like the weeds in my garden ! Facebook is big business, the are making a package from hits on the site.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Sue Allan
Date: 02 Aug 09 - 06:06 PM

Just checking out the Facebook Mudcat group, of which I am a member and Don, your pic with Nick Griffin is still up there. I have just emailed abuse@facebook.com the following:
I am a member of Mudcat Cafe group, and also Mudcat Cafe itself (www.mudcat.org) and must inform you that the profile you have up of Don Thompson is NOT him. I have read his pieces on Mudcat itself about this: his profile picture has been hijacked by the BNP (racist, fascist British National Party) and shows him playing guitar in front of a picture of BNP activist Nick Griffin. I know that Don has in fact written to you at this address and at others to complain about having his identity hijacked (he is not a member of Facebook). I will be reporting to him that his profile pic is still up there. It is Not, I repeat NOT him ... and you are propagating fascism and racism through allowing the BNP to hijack people like this.

Find his profile at:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?id=100000143650589&ref=sgm


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Aug 09 - 08:46 PM

Mr Google is your friend. Facebook's usual lawyers are the mega-US lawfirm Orricks at www.orrick.com.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 07:06 AM

Mr Google is your friend.

Google is my bible. Answers all my questions.

Thanks Richard.

I think it is time to get the media involved in this fiasco.

Facebook certainly will not like the bad press. Its advertisers will start pulling out.

Should we start with the Guardian? What about US news agencies?


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Amergin
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 07:24 AM

I found facebook amazing...I found a cousin of mine I haven't heard from since I was a little boy...and it turns out she lives here in Portland...

Also found a childhood friend from my home town. Been reconnecting with her too.

I signed up several months ago...but only recently been using it...use it more than myspace these days.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 08:01 AM

The Fooles are still Troupe-ing there... ;-)


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 08:03 AM

This Russ Meyer profile http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=100000032357264 now uses my picture as if I were leering at the girls who typify the girls in real Russ Meyer films.


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: bankley
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 08:19 AM

I cancelled my 'account' about a year ago for personal reasons....
I wasn't really active anyway,. Now that I hear of the dirty happenings, the only thing I feel that I'm missing is the bullshit...

I have other 'walls' to deal with....


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Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 09:52 AM

follow the friends on that link Richard and you will find another of you

http://www.facebook.com/people/Fred-McCormick/100000005573894


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