BS: Finish the quote...

Subject: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 May 07 - 10:20 PM

"Bill is gross buckets, and he howls the ____________!"

Finish the quote, please. If you want to, identify its origins.

Then give us an unfinished quote of your own choice (from popular culture) to finish.

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From: GUEST,MarkS
Date: 13 May 07 - 10:45 PM

"What if they gave a war and nobody came?"
-----------------------------------------

Berthold Brecht.

Am travelling now and will give the answer in a few days if nobody comes up with it!

Mark

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From: kendall
Date: 14 May 07 - 06:41 AM

..at length the wary Roebuck started, lept as if to meet the arrow....

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From: kendall
Date: 14 May 07 - 05:32 PM

I thought this was well known...

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From: Greg B
Date: 14 May 07 - 06:07 PM

Alas per Yorik, I knew him ...

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From: Mickey191
Date: 14 May 07 - 07:00 PM

WEll.

Yon Cassius has a lean.........

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From: GUEST, Ebbie
Date: 14 May 07 - 07:22 PM

and hungry look...

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From: kendall
Date: 14 May 07 - 07:26 PM

Lookout how you use proud words. They...

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From: GUEST, Ebbie
Date: 14 May 07 - 07:37 PM

I must say that I want to see the ending to Bill has gross buckets... lol

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From: Mickey191
Date: 14 May 07 - 11:28 PM

Hell is empty..............

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From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 15 May 07 - 12:08 AM

Horatio, not well.

Seamus

(Hope he gets better)

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From: Mo the caller
Date: 15 May 07 - 02:04 AM

Modern DNA reseasrch has discovered that Hamlet was mistaken, it could not have been Yorrick, but was a female age 37 probably born in the village of Thames Ditton.

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From: Cool Beans
Date: 15 May 07 - 01:14 PM

CSI: Elsinore

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From: GUEST,Ignoramus
Date: 15 May 07 - 01:51 PM

F*ck...

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From: kendall
Date: 15 May 07 - 04:55 PM

I thought this would draw a lot of posts

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From: Ebbie
Date: 15 May 07 - 05:31 PM

It might get more posts, Kendall, if we all udnerstood the allusions. I'm lost.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 May 07 - 05:39 PM

It's very simple. You post a partial quote. It should be a quote that has some place in our collective popular culture, not a quote so obscure that hardly anyone knows it.

Someone else then completes the missing part of that quote.

Capiche?

I repeat:

"Bill is gross buckets, and he howls the ____________!"

Complete it, if you know the answer.

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From: Mickey191
Date: 15 May 07 - 08:40 PM

I thought it would be a hot thread too. Ebbie-right on Yon Cassius line.

Hell is empty..........                           
From shakespeare (and boy is it ever true!)

Be bold, and mighty forces..........

I don't need your bull...........

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From: GUEST,Edourd
Date: 15 May 07 - 09:17 PM

If Marxie Heller's so fucking smart, ........?

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 May 07 - 10:06 PM

For Guest, Ignoramus...

"F*ck...       off!"   (okay? Am I right?)

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 May 07 - 10:59 PM

Trouble with this kind of thread is that the ends and the beginnings don't always get matched up in one place, and as it grows it gets more confusing.

SRS

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From: Ebbie
Date: 15 May 07 - 11:04 PM

"Bill is gross buckets, and he howls..."

Little Hawk, I googled it and the only thing that popped up was this thread.

So, is it from a movie? A play? A classic? Canadian? I ain't never heered it.

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 May 07 - 11:08 PM

It's from a common form of print media that is distributed all over the country, and it happened in the 80's. Or it might have been the early 90's. Not quite sure about the date. It involves someone named Bill, and he howls. That's all I'm giving you. Oh, and it originated in the USA, not Canada.

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From: Ebbie
Date: 15 May 07 - 11:35 PM

Bill Clinton, perhaps? Might one find it in the kind of print media that proclaims "Baby Worn with a Wooden Leg'?

And it may be American as you say but "is gross buckets" is no kind of phrase I have EVER heard.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 May 07 - 11:39 PM

I haven't encountered the term "gross buckets," but it does seem to be out there. Doesn't help with your puzzle, though.

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From: Amos
Date: 15 May 07 - 11:59 PM

Hell is empty and all the devils are here. .. Wm S.

"Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid." Goethe

"My cow died last night so I don't need your bull. " No idea

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From: Ebbie
Date: 16 May 07 - 12:04 AM

"My cow died last night so I don't need your bull." *G* Pretty good put down.

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From: kendall
Date: 16 May 07 - 07:31 AM

Lets try a very well known one... "The moving finger writes..."

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From: Mickey191
Date: 16 May 07 - 10:05 AM

Good Show Amos!!!! A plus

I have no idea on the "cow & bull" attribution either, but it is said alot. Maybe some dry old farmer.


the coward does it with a kiss,
the brave man..................

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From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 16 May 07 - 11:33 AM

Yet each man kills the thing he loves, from all let this be heard.... The coward does it with a kiss the brave man with the sword.

Oscar Wilde, The Ballad of Reading Jail



And still they gazed, & still the wonder grew,
How one small head could carry all he knew...

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From: Mickey191
Date: 16 May 07 - 12:18 PM

So - your not sooo crazy Eddy!

Love yours--but I'm befuddled.



"These are the times ............."

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From: kendall
Date: 16 May 07 - 12:55 PM

..that try men's souls..

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From: mrdux
Date: 16 May 07 - 12:58 PM

"These are the times ............."

"... that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine

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From: mrdux
Date: 16 May 07 - 01:03 PM

"You cannot depend on your eyes . . ."

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 May 07 - 01:17 PM

"The moving finger writes...and having writ, moves on."

The fact that "is gross buckets" is an unusual phrase all right, Ebbie, and it is one of the main reasons I picked that quote. It is not about Bill Clinton. Nor is it about Bill Shatner.

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From: Ebbie
Date: 16 May 07 - 01:35 PM

When we hear the end of the quote, LH, will we/I know then whether 'gross' is a measure or an adjective?

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 May 07 - 02:16 PM

It's an adjective. You can have an attractive bucket. You can have a gross bucket. A gross bucket is not attractive.

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From: kendall
Date: 16 May 07 - 02:23 PM

used in that context, "gross" is incorrect. It is derived from the French word "Gauche" meaning left. There was a time when the left bank of the Seine river was inhabited by artists and other "hippy" types.

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From: Amos
Date: 16 May 07 - 02:48 PM

KEndall:

With all due respect, I can't see a link between "gauche" (left, or maladroit) and "gross" (disgusting or off-putting.) I believe gross in all its meaning derives from the German "Grosse", meaning fat.

A

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From: Ebbie
Date: 16 May 07 - 02:50 PM

Nor have I ever seen a fat bucket.

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From: Donuel
Date: 16 May 07 - 03:02 PM

Its not the heat its...

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From: Mickey191
Date: 16 May 07 - 06:39 PM

This is too easy. Or is a trap?

         "It's the humidity"

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From: Amos
Date: 16 May 07 - 09:21 PM

gauche
"awkward, tactless," 1751, from Fr. gauche "left" (replacing O.Fr. senestre in that sense), originally "awkward, awry," from M.Fr. gauchir "turn aside, swerve," from O.Fr. gaucher "trample, reel, walk clumsily," from Frank. *welkan "to full" (cf. O.H.G. wankon, O.N. vakka "to stagger, totter").

gross (adj.)
c.1347, from O.Fr. gros "big, thick, coarse," from L.L. grossus "thick, coarse (of food or mind)," of obscure origin, not in classical L. Said to be unrelated to L. crassus, which meant the same thing, or to Ger. gross "large," but said to be cognate with O.Ir. bres, M.Ir. bras "big." Its meaning forked in M.E., to "glaring, flagrant, monstrous" on the one hand and "entire, total, whole" on the other. Meaning "disgusting" is first recorded 1958 in U.S. student slang, from earlier use as an intensifier of unpleasant things (gross stupidity, etc.). Noun sense of "a dozen dozen" is from O.Fr. grosse douzaine "large dozen;" sense of "total profit" (opposed to net) is from 1523. Gross national product first recorded 1947.

Both from the On-Line Etymological Dictionary.

Not authoritative.

A

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 May 07 - 09:40 PM

Okay, finish this one:

Nyah nyah nyah . . .

;-D

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From: Amos
Date: 16 May 07 - 09:44 PM

Indeterminate, Still -- there are a thousand well known endings.

A

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From: Mickey191
Date: 16 May 07 - 09:56 PM

We'll always have.......

A tisket ............

Men seldom...........

But in the morning, Madame, ........

We have scotch'd the snake,........

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From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 16 May 07 - 09:58 PM

"To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the...."

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 May 07 - 10:17 PM

Fine, kendall. The word "gross" is "incorrect" in that context... Have it your way. ;-) But it's still a genuine quote.

Here's another:

"Is a dream a lie if it don't come true...or_____________________ ?"




Some answers to above stuff:

"But in the morning, Madam, you will still be ugly." (Winston Churchill, when accused of being drunk...)

"A tisket, a tasket..."

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From: Mickey191
Date: 16 May 07 - 11:31 PM

Is a dream a lie if it don't come true-or is it something worse? B. Springsteen


Right on the last 2 L.H.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 May 07 - 11:39 PM

That line from Bruce Springsteen is one of the best lines he ever wrote. It asks a very important question. I can attest to that, having seen a few of my own dreams that didn't come true.

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From: Ebbie
Date: 16 May 07 - 11:53 PM

We'll always have.......each other.

Men seldom...........make passes at girls who wear glasses.

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From: mrdux
Date: 17 May 07 - 12:11 AM

We'll always have. . . Paris.


Ilsa: What about us?

Rick: We'll always have Paris. We didn't have it, we'd lost it until
you came to Casablanca. We got it back last night.

                              -- Casablanca

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 May 07 - 12:24 AM

That's a great quote.

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From: GUEST,***Oo***
Date: 17 May 07 - 01:05 AM

If Marxie Heller's so fuckin' smart, how come he's so fuckin' dead? -- Prizzi's Honor.

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From: mrdux
Date: 17 May 07 - 01:15 AM

"We have scotch'd the snake. . .not killed it"

                   -- Macbeth

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From: kendall
Date: 17 May 07 - 07:24 AM

Come to think of it, there was a tribe of Indians in the West who were called "Grosse Ventres" French for "Big Bellies".
Ok, so I was wrong. But, I was right once too...I didn't buy a Neru jacket.

I guess I just don't understand the original quote.

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From: Micca
Date: 17 May 07 - 07:37 AM

Men seldom make passes
at girls who wear glasses
so Dorothy Parker has said
that well may be true
but I ask of you
what girl wears glasses in bed!!

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From: Amos
Date: 17 May 07 - 07:44 AM

Skipper, you're so fundamentally right you have to make a slip once inna while just to make folks think you're human. Tight?

A

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From: kendall
Date: 17 May 07 - 09:54 AM

Thanks, Mate. I don't have to be right all the time, and I do enjoy learning something new. I can always say I know more than I did yesterday.

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From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 17 May 07 - 10:02 AM

I thought the Churchill one was:
"But in the morning Madam, I'll be sober."

(So the "You'll still be ugly" was implicit rather than explicit.)

re "One small head" here is a fuller quote:

The village all declared how much he knew;
Twas certain he could write, and cipher too;
Lands he could measure, terms and tides presage,
And even the story ran that he could gauge.
In arguing, too, the parson own'd his skill,
For even though vanquish'd, he could argue still;
While words of learned length and thundering sound
Amazed the gazing rustics ranged around;
And still they gazed, and still the wonder grew,
That one small head could carry all he knew.

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From: Mickey191
Date: 17 May 07 - 10:36 AM

I think you are correct Crazy Eddy--on the Churchill quote. My mistake.
What is One Small Head rom & the author is...?
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Mr.Dux, Good job on the Casablanca dialog-Has any movie since been that magical? They were getting the dialog each morning-with no set thought on how the movie would end.

A plus on Macbeth.   
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Micca-yup on the D.P. line.

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From: mrdux
Date: 17 May 07 - 04:20 PM

Mickey -- Casablanca is unquestionably one of my all-time favorite films. "Magical" works for me. When I first started dating my wife, I said to her "I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship." She, having led a a cinematically sheltered life, didn't get the reference but loved the line. So I rented a copy of Casablanca for us to watch. She loved it so much we saw it three times that weekend. And here we still are a dozen years later. . . Watching the movie was definitely an auspicious beginning of a beautiful -- and enduring -- friendship.

As far as the Churchill quote goes, I have the exchange as:

Elizabeth Braddock: Sir, you are drunk.
Winston Churchill: And you, madam, are ugly. But in the morning I shall be sober.

michael

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and another:

"The physician can bury his mistakes, but . . ."

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From: Mickey191
Date: 17 May 07 - 05:51 PM

He'll still send a bill!!!!!!!

Hi Michael,
I love your story-it was off to a great start with that memorable line. Ingrid B. said she knew the audiences were disappointed that Rick & Ilsa didn't go off together-but it would not have spoken well as to their character. It was indeed a time for personal sacrifices.

I met Bogey once-one of my highlites!

I'll bet someone here will get your Physician Clue!

Mickey

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From: Micca
Date: 17 May 07 - 06:21 PM

Mrdux, "...but an architect can only advise you to plant vines"?

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From: mrdux
Date: 17 May 07 - 06:46 PM

Micca --

You got it. Frank Lloyd Wright was its author.

michael

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From: mrdux
Date: 18 May 07 - 01:26 AM

Mickey --

Meeting Bogey is a pretty cool highlight.

michael

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From: SINSULL
Date: 18 May 07 - 09:38 AM

Actually it is Reading Gaol

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 May 07 - 06:16 PM

It's pronounced the same. Gaol is just the British spelling.

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From: Mickey191
Date: 19 May 07 - 11:22 AM

L.H.,Hope this is ok. FFill in preceding words.


...........Like fairy gifts fading away. (always loved that line)

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From: Mickey191
Date: 19 May 07 - 11:48 AM

My F key is quite troublesome. Many times I hit it and nothing shows-other times it doubles up.

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From: mrdux
Date: 19 May 07 - 09:23 PM

Believe me, if all those endearing young charms
   Which I gaze on so fondly to-day,
Were to change by to-morrow, and melt in my arms,
Like fairy-gifts fading away,
Thou would'st still be adored, as this moment thou art,
   Let thy loveliness fade as it will,
And around the dear ruin each wish of my heart
   Would entwine itself verdantly still.

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From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 20 May 07 - 11:52 AM

"And so do his sisters"....

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From: The Walrus
Date: 21 May 07 - 03:39 AM

"...And so do his sisters, and his cousins, and his aunts!..."

"Now give three cheers" from "HMS Pinafore (or "The Lass that Loved a Sailor")

W

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From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 21 May 07 - 05:29 AM

Micky, I'd try playing in the key of D, then...

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From: Mickey191
Date: 21 May 07 - 10:47 AM

Dantastic, duckin' advice Doolestroupe.

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From: Stringsinger
Date: 21 May 07 - 05:43 PM

"Bill is gross buckets and he howls the neon rainbow".

F.

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From: GUEST,One who knows...
Date: 21 May 07 - 06:15 PM

Wrong. Inventive, but still wrong. Try again.

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From: Mickey191
Date: 22 May 07 - 09:45 AM

Is this the end...............

What a .....

I'll never be ............

Come up and .............



Great movie lines.

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From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 22 May 07 - 10:12 AM

Come up and ............. ??

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 May 07 - 10:49 AM

"Come up and see me sometime..." (I think it was Mae West who said that.)

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From: JennyO
Date: 22 May 07 - 11:09 AM

Mother of mercy, is this the end of Rico? - Edward G Robinson as Rico - "Little Caesar"

What a dump! - Bette Davis as Rosa Moline - "Beyond the Forest"

As God as my witness, I'll never be hungry again. - Vivien Leigh as Scarlett O'Hara in "Gone with the Wind"

Why don't you come up and see me some time! (actually Why don't you come up sometime and see me? I'm here every night) - Mae West as Lady Lou in "She Done Him Wrong"

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From: Mickey191
Date: 22 May 07 - 11:16 AM

Jenny O--100%---Good Show!

You are totally hip on movie's Great Lines! Was it Cary Grant who got the invitation from M.W.?

Why not put some of your own movie Great Lines??
Love this thread. I sure hope we find out about Gross Buckets L.H. and One Small Head--who wrote it. My Bartletts is missing.

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From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 22 May 07 - 11:26 AM

"Here's a fine stick to...."

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From: JennyO
Date: 22 May 07 - 12:17 PM

Yes - it was Cary Grant (what a good thing they changed his name from Archie Leach!)

The gross buckets one has me stumped too.

I'll see if I can think of some to put up.

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From: Mickey191
Date: 22 May 07 - 12:33 PM

To beat the lovely lady

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From: JennyO
Date: 22 May 07 - 12:41 PM

Wait a minute.........

Keep your friends close........

How can a blind man..........

I've known sheep.......

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From: mrdux
Date: 22 May 07 - 12:47 PM

"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."

                         -- Sun Tzu, The Art of War


"I've known sheep that could outwit you. I've worn dresses with higher I.Qs."

                         -- from A Fish Called Wanda

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From: Mickey191
Date: 22 May 07 - 12:50 PM

An Buachaill Caol Dubh, (Will you translate for us?)

You won't believe this-but I thought of that line to post here & decided no one would get it!!!

For the rest of the world: It's from the Quiet Man with John Wayne & Maureen O'Hara & the old codger who stole the pix-Barry Fitzgerald. What a great feel good movie!

Now can you tell me what B.F. said when he walked in the bedroom after the wedding night & spied the broken bed? It was the best laugh in the movie-the audience roared covering the sound-- everynight many asked what was said.   

I was an usher in Pelham, NY in those Golden Days & saw that movie about 60 times-I never tired of it & still can recite much of the dialogue today. Then it was brought back (Pop. Demand) & it was still SRO.
I finally got my Irish Dad to see it (NEVER went to movies).He came back the next night to see "The FIGHT" with Victor McLaglen.
   
Nice Memories-Thanks, Mickey

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From: JennyO
Date: 22 May 07 - 01:06 PM


"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."

                         -- Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Er - yes, you're probably right, but I had something else in mind.

"I've known sheep that could outwit you. I've worn dresses with higher I.Qs."

                         -- from A Fish Called Wanda

Yep, that's it. Wanda (Jamie Lee Curtis) says "To call you stupid would be an insult to stupid people! I've known sheep that could out-wit you! I've worn dresses with higher IQ's, but you think you're an intellectual, don't you ape?"

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From: Wolfgang
Date: 22 May 07 - 02:16 PM

"What if they gave a war and nobody came?"
-----------------------------------------

Berthold Brecht.   (MarkS)

This is a frequent wrong attribution.

Now a real Brecht quote once printed in a book on the very same page which had the above quote but not from Brecht:

He who does not share the fight
will share the defeat (poem: Against those lacking courage)

Just the opposite of the wrongly attributed quote.

Wolfgang

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From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 22 May 07 - 06:44 PM

Leaving out the middle rather than the end:

All that ......    (gold)

and

To ..... ..... lily

Dave Oesterreich

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From: Micca
Date: 22 May 07 - 06:56 PM

Uncle dave the first is "..Glisters.."
and the second is "...gild refined gold and paint..."

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 May 07 - 08:14 PM

"He who does not share the fight
will share the defeat."

What if this had been said of a pacifistically-minded young Japanese man who was hoping against hope to avoid being sent to his almost certain death in Iwo Jima or Okinawa? Or a 15-year old German kid in March 1945 who was having serious doubts about the usefullness of his learning how to handle a Panzerfaust and a machine gun?

What then? Such things were said to those young people.

It all depends, you see, what you believe in. It all depends on where you place the highest good. And there will always be different opinions about that.

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From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 23 May 07 - 04:51 AM

"And still they gazed, & still the wonder grew,
That one small head could carry all he knew"
Oliver Goldsmith, The Deserted Village

Mickey 191, "An Buachaill Caol Dubh" means "The slim dark(haired) lad" (Word-for-word, "The Boy Slim Black)

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From: Mickey191
Date: 23 May 07 - 09:53 AM

Thanks CrazyEddie, Going to find that poem-sounds lovely. Also for the translation. Did you get that from a site? I've often wanted gaelic Translations-but was unable to find out how.

Grow old along with me ...............

Keep your eyes wide open before marriage.........

Behold a pale...........

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From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 23 May 07 - 10:48 AM

Yes, Mickey 191, I can (and will...); you've no idea how anxiously I scanned the half-dozen postings between yours in ref. to the "lovely lady" and here, just in case someone else had chipped in. Barry Fitzgerald looks at the broken bed, shakes his head, and laconically utters the single word, "Homeric!" (For those less familiar with the Film than Cinema Ushers or members of the Irish diaspora, the reason the bed is broken is because Big John - or "Trooper Thorn" - has previously hurled M O'S - Kate Danaher - on it in fury.

If you want a translation of "ABCD", see a much earlier thread on "Songs for Alcoholics"; and now, what - or whom - do we all have to cheer like (according to Ward Bond)?

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From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 23 May 07 - 10:58 AM

By the way, sorry if "If you want a translation...." sounds peremptory or dismissive; I just realised it might appear that way, and it wasn't intended to; rather, if you go to the "Search" box, set it for a year, and type in "Wanted; songs for alcoholics!" you'll get not only the translation, but my rendering of the Irish song from which the name is taken. Cheers!, agus preab san ol.


PS another line from Barry, in "The Quiet Man":

"This is a ********-***; wait and I'll show ye the operation of it" What was it? And how do we know there isn't an Irish term for it?

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From: The Walrus
Date: 23 May 07 - 11:15 AM

From: Mickey191,
(Of "The Quiet Man")
"...I finally got my Irish Dad to see it (NEVER went to movies).He came back the next night to see "The FIGHT" with Victor McLaglen...."

What amuses me about that film is the length of that fight - If it had been for real, I suspect that McLagen would have wiped the floor with Wayne in fairly short order. McLagen was reputetedly quite a handy boxer, actually lasting a five round bout, trading blows with the World Heavyweight champion (Jack Johnson), and emerging on his feet (Okay, beaten, but concious and upright).

W

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From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 23 May 07 - 11:45 AM

Yeah, a bit like the Basil Rathbone/Errol Flynn fencing-bouts. Runour has it that Rathbone got Flynn really angry before hand by whispering, "I'm getting paid twice as much as you". But don't forget that in the QM, wee Barry F is running a book on the outcome. And Mickey191 will be able to tell us where the people were coming from by 'bus.....

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From: Richard Bridge
Date: 23 May 07 - 12:41 PM

100

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From: Mickey191
Date: 23 May 07 - 01:00 PM

Cheer like Protestants????

I'm at a loss on the B.F. line---10:58.

When I drink water---------

This is great fun!

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From: Mickey191
Date: 23 May 07 - 01:04 PM

Was it the sleeping bag??--My old brain is cloudy today.

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From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 23 May 07 - 02:02 PM

Micca, you spoiled my sport! I hoped I'd catch at least somebody with either "glitters" or "gild the lily"!

Dave Oesterreich

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From: Micca
Date: 23 May 07 - 03:42 PM

Sorry Dave, but those to "miss" quotes have been a source of irritation to me for a very long time!!

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From: mrdux
Date: 24 May 07 - 12:32 AM

"Grow old along with me . . . the best is yet to be." -- Robert Browning

"Keep your eyes wide open before marriage. . . and half shut afterwards." -- Ben Franklin

"Behold a pale . . . horse" (a pretty good 1964 movie about the Spanish civil war with Anthony Quinn and Gregory Peck -- the line is from the Book of Revelations: "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.")


How about this one:

"Whether the pitcher hits the stone or the stone hits the pitcher. . ."

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From: GUEST,Dáithí
Date: 24 May 07 - 04:36 AM

Another favourite often misquoted:

"The best laid plans..."

Any offers?

Dáithí

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From: The Walrus
Date: 24 May 07 - 04:54 AM

"The best laid plans..."
is't it something along the lines

The best laid plans of mice and men gang oft a gley   ?

(I'm afraid I have no talent with broad Scots.)


Complete the saying:

"If 'ifs' and 'ands' were pots and pans....."

W

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From: Mickey191
Date: 24 May 07 - 10:49 AM

mrdux--I can't stump you it seems. Good Show!
Pale horse quote sounds like a description of GWB.

I've no clue on the pitcher line.

How about :
We are all in the gutter ..........................

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From: GUEST,Uncle_DaveO
Date: 24 May 07 - 11:23 AM

Last night a saw a great movie, and here's a line, first five words unsure in detail, but the quote involved is right):

if you can love me, "take me. Take me, take a soldier"....

Dave Oesterreich

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From: The Walrus
Date: 24 May 07 - 11:52 AM

Mickey191,

"We are all in the gutter ..." But some of us are looking at the stars

Oscar Wilde?


Uncle Dave O,

"...Last night a saw a great movie, ..."
Who's version of the tale?

if you can love me, "take me. Take me, take a soldier"....

William Shakespeare's Henry V (Act V) [Henry wooing Katherine]

"...If thou would have such a one, take me; and take me, take a soldier; take a soldier, take a king. And what sayest thou then to my love? speak, my fair, and fairly, I pray thee."

Tom (Walrus)

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From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 24 May 07 - 12:28 PM

To The Walrus:

I saw Kenneth Branagh's magnificent and beautiful production. Far, far better than the self-consciously stagey version by Olivier.

Dave Oesterreich

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From: Mickey191
Date: 24 May 07 - 02:13 PM

Walrus, Yes Sir - 100%

Oscar Wilde--Same play: A man who knows the price of everything ...................


You were right about McGlaglen & J.Johnson who won the fight with a decision. I Looked that one up. I had a male friend who loved "fights" and I'd raved for years about the Quiet Man fight. If I recall correctly it went on for 13 minutes. I sat him down once to watch this and some editor had pared the "great" fight down to 4 minutes!! That was a mortal sin!! IMO

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From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 24 May 07 - 02:44 PM

"Thanks" ("Trooper" Thorne/ John Wayne, in "TQM" ad nauseam)
Yep, it was indeed the sleeping-bag (and Ward Bond, as the priest fishing by the river, speaks to Maureen O'Hara in Irish; all except the word(s) "sleeping-bag").

On another note, I'm pretty sure Robert Burns's line from his poem to a Mouse (on turning her up with the plow, November 1784), runs,

"The best-laid schemes of Mice and Men
   Gang aft a-gley;
And lea us nocht but grief and pain
   For promised joy"

("Gang aft a-gley" could be rendered into English English as, "oftentimes go in-a-different-way-to-that-intended". It's not sufficient to write, "wrongly", since the Scots word "gley" has this sense of misdirection; a "squint" in the eye - Latin, "strabismus" - is "a gley"; not, a-gley" or "agley"). Now, what about another one:

"There's plenty of fellas go along this road with **** in their ****"
(not from TQM, but like that it's from a book made into a film, and indeed a remake)

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From: Mickey191
Date: 24 May 07 - 06:04 PM

An Buachaill Caol Dubh

Wanted to send you a PM - but I guess you are not a member. A True Story about M.O'H.

Is your last a quote by John Steinbeck? Clearly, I need a hint.

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From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 25 May 07 - 03:56 AM

A man who knows the price of everything .... and the value of nothing.


God save thee, ancient XXXX! From the fiends, that plague thee thus!
Why look'st thou so ?.....

(I'm looking for the next line. But I blanked out one word-replaced by XXXX- because it is too much of a give-away)

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From: Gurney
Date: 25 May 07 - 05:16 AM

There's one up there that I have as:
A fortunate man is the Doctor/Surgeon/Physician, for the Sun shines on his successes, and the earth covers his failures.

'Hares on the Mountain' is ALL quotes.

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From: Mickey191
Date: 25 May 07 - 10:16 AM

CrazyEddie, It was a given - even with the XXXXX.(Mariner)
With my cross bow I shot the albatross.

Of course you are right with Wilde's great line. Almost everything he penned was gold.

This is a different challenge-cause I'm not sure where it came from-but pretty sure it is Wilde:

Something about a red headed whore at ringsend coming out at night. Might be from Redding Gaol-but I'm only guessing.

Here's a new one:
"The world will little note.................."

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From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 25 May 07 - 11:45 AM

I thought I WAS a memeber!   Yes, the line is indeed form Steinbeck's "Of Mice and Men"; something about "I've seen many men go down that road with LAND in their HEADS" (I may have misquoted; but the link to RB seemed appropriate; indeed, I think the 1930s film is the first to have a "pre-credits sequence", when George and Lenny are running for to leap aboard a train, hobo-like, and the boxcar has the Burns lines chalked upon it (and, I think, the focus zooms in until only the "Of M & M" title is left.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 May 07 - 12:20 PM

"I coulda been...."

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From: JennyO
Date: 25 May 07 - 12:31 PM

"You don't understand. I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender." - Marlon Brando as Terry in "On the Waterfront".

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From: Mickey191
Date: 25 May 07 - 12:41 PM

An Buachaill Caol Dubh
I put your above ID in to send you a PM & was informed you are not a member. I did try twice.

Did you actually give the requested info. to the powers that be - such as real name & address?

Good Luck!

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From: mrdux
Date: 25 May 07 - 12:53 PM

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here." -- from Lincoln's Gettysburg address.

as for the red-headed whore, it sounded familiar but I had to do some digging. It's from a poem by Irish poet Oliver St. John Gogarty.


Ringsend

(after reading Tolstoy)

I will live in Ringsend
With a red-headed whore,
And the fan-light gone in
Where it lights the hall-door,
And listen each night
For her querulous shout,
As at last she streels in
And the pubs empty out.
To soothe that wild breast
With my old-fangled songs,
Till she feels it redressed
From inordinate wrongs,
Imagined, outrageous,
Preposterous wrongs,
Till peace at last comes,
Shall be all I will do,
Where the little lamp blooms
Like a rose in the stew;
And up the back garden
The sound comes to me
Of the lapsing, unsoilable,
Whispering sea.

BTW, thanks for the compliment, Mickey, but I'm pretty easily stumped: I just don't answer the one's I can't get -- which are, as this point, better than half. It's fun trying though. You're right: a good thread.

michael

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From: Mickey191
Date: 25 May 07 - 02:56 PM

mrdux, My brain is on a pre holiday vacation. Of course-Gogarty!!! I've his memoirs here "It isn't that time of year at all!" -Classic memoirs off the Golden Age of Dublin.

I first heard "Ringsend" on the Long John Nebel radio show (NY)in the '60's. Anyone recall Long John? He was a master interviewer-loved it the night he took apart L. Ron Hubbard - (Dyanetics (sp?) Founder. John uncovered a talking ass! The B.S. flowed freely that night.

Back to Gogarty--A brilliant Irish writer named Ulick O'Connor wrote a bio of Gogarty, and recited in the most mellifluous Dublin accent one would ever hear many of Gogarty's poems. I was in love with that voice!

THanks for steering me back to a pleasant memory.

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From: mrdux
Date: 26 May 07 - 01:51 AM

I was familiar with the poem but hadn't been familiar with Gogarty. Interesting character. Among other things, he apparently was the inspiration for Buck Mulligan in Ulysses.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 May 07 - 09:34 PM

Right on, JennyO.

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From: Mickey191
Date: 26 May 07 - 11:03 PM

I have fears that this thread will end with questions still unanswered. So here are three more:


Now is the winter.......................

Oh Captain! My Captain!.................

I found my thrill.......................

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 May 07 - 11:25 PM

...of our discontent.

...on Blueberry Hill.

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From: mrdux
Date: 27 May 07 - 02:27 AM

"O CAPTAIN! my Captain! our fearful trip is done. . ." -- Whitman



I'm still curious about the gross buckets. . . so while we're waiting here are another three for good measure:



"There is no situation in human misery that cannot be made worse by. . ."

"Beware of all enterprises that. . ."

"Outside of a dog, a book is probably man's best friend. . ."

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From: JennyO
Date: 27 May 07 - 04:11 AM

"Oh Captain! My Captain! --"

This phrase of Walt Whitman's was made more famous after being used in "Dead Poets Society", by students of Robin Williams's character, the inspirational English teacher Mr Keating, to show their support of him after he is fired for encouraging his students to be more adventurous. That final scene stands out in my mind as one of the best ever in a movie - it grabs me every time.

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From: Teribus
Date: 27 May 07 - 05:07 AM

If 'ifs' and 'ands' were pots and pans we'd have no need of tinkers

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From: The Walrus
Date: 27 May 07 - 06:07 AM

Terribus,

Spot on.


mrdux,

"Outside of a dog, a book is probably man's best friend. . ."
"...Inside a dog, it's too dark to read" - Groucho Marx, I believe.

W

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From: Rog Peek
Date: 27 May 07 - 06:19 AM

Walrus
You've reminded me of two more quotes about 'if' that my dear mother in law used to use:

"If is a word that gets in the way'
Only for if we'd be happy today!"

and the one I liked the most:

"If 'IF' was a donkey, we'd all have a ride!"

God bless her.

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From: Rog Peek
Date: 27 May 07 - 06:21 AM

Sorry, it was Teribus, not Walrus......all these bloody silly names, I can't cope.

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From: Mickey191
Date: 27 May 07 - 09:23 AM

mrdux,
There is no situation in human misery that cannot be made worse by. . ."

I want to say: Good Intentions -- BUT I have no idea why that popped into my mind.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 May 07 - 12:21 PM

"There is no situation in human misery that cannot be made worse by. . ."


Hmmm. Would it be "....a federal investigation." ?

"...a committee." ?

"...statistics."   ?

"...military intervention." ?

The possibilities are endless, really. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: The Walrus
Date: 27 May 07 - 02:36 PM

Okay, try this (historical) one:

"Gentlemen, we may not change history tomorrow, but..."

Walrus.

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From: mrdux
Date: 28 May 07 - 02:02 AM

re: "There is no situation in human misery that cannot be made worse by. . ."

Mickey -- "Good intentions" . . . I like it, but not quite what the author had in mind.

LH: you have the sense of it. . . if it helps, it's Irish.

michael

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From: kendall
Date: 28 May 07 - 07:32 AM

The veil that hides the future is ....

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From: autolycus
Date: 28 May 07 - 12:31 PM

Mr.Dux - can't find the 'human misery' one in dozens of Dicts. of Quotes I have - soooooooooo annoying.

Since it's Irish,given the wording,might be
1.GBS(haw)
less likely 2. Wilde

or maybe 3. B.Behan



i.e.the usual suspects. When you come clean,full details would be welcome here,like work,chapter,date,stuff like that.


"Pigmies placed on the shoulders of giants............"

WARNING All the usual answers tend to be wrong.



       Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Mickey191
Date: 29 May 07 - 12:23 AM

All off mine have been answered--so far.

A new set:
Do I ice her?..............

If they hang you ................

Fasten your seat ....................

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From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 29 May 07 - 04:58 AM

"If 'IF' was a donkey, we'd all have a ride!"

sounds like a variant of "If wishes were horses, beggars might ride"

Fasten your seatbelt it could be a bumpy ride

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From: JennyO
Date: 29 May 07 - 09:43 AM

"Do what? Do I ice her? Do I marry her? Which one of these?" Jack Nicholson as Charley Partanna in "Prizzi's Honor"

"The chances are you'll get off with life. That means if you're a good girl, you'll be out in 20 years. I'll be waiting for you. If they hang you, I'll always remember you." - Humphrey Bogart as Sam Spade in "The Maltese Falcon"

"Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy night" - Bette Davis as Margo Channing in "All about Eve".

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From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 29 May 07 - 02:47 PM

Two or three Irish ones, then:

"The [number of] people in Ireland that buy books wouldn't..."

"My grandfather spent the last four years of his life as ....."

"A Pint of Plain is....."

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From: Mickey191
Date: 29 May 07 - 07:38 PM

Jenny O, Correct again on all three.

As for the last 3 Irish - am not familiar with any of them. Is the first: wouldn't fill a page? Pure guess.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Put the last poster's name in again & was told Not a member. So here is the story on M.O'H. She has a home in Glengariff, West Cork, Eire. She was checking out groceries & dropped some coins to the floor. She announced in a loud voice:"I shall expect these coins to be picked up & waiting for me when I shop next."

Not exactly nice. She is not well liked for this & other exchanges with the locals.

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From: mrdux
Date: 30 May 07 - 12:43 AM

Ivor --

I was just thinking about the "coming clean" point of this thread: I figure it's around the time the "gross buckets" line is explained, and that doesn't seem imminent. In the meantime, if you're curious about the "human misery" quote, PM me about it.

here's another:

"The exquisite corpse. . ."


michael

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From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 30 May 07 - 04:10 AM

When things go wrong, & they won't go right,
Though you've done the best you can.
When life's as dark, as the hour of night,
A pint of plain, is your only man.

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From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 31 May 07 - 02:41 PM

Not so crazy, Eddie: the words of Jem Casey, the poet of The Working Man (as recorded by the inimitable Flann O'Brien, Myles na gCopaleen, real name Brian Nolan). He too - or probably Sergeant Pluck - is responsible for the one about the Grandfather, all according to the Atomic Theory of de Selby. The first is Brendan Behan, and concludes "wouldn't keep me in drink for a weekend".


Jazus, that's quite a tongue M O'H has on her. I wouldn't put my fingers anywhere near a Holy Water Font when she was arond.... I did put my address &c when requested; maybe I'll put the house number as well, or maybe there's a problem re. the "zip" thing. I'll try again.

Now, how about something perennially pertinent:

"Here's Freedom to them that would ----;
Here's Freedom to them that would -----:
There's nane ever feared
That the Truth should be heard,
But them whom the Truth would ------."

(Slightly anglicized: would/wad; whom/wham)

Where did the wan moon set?

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Mickey191
Date: 31 May 07 - 05:34 PM

Have not a clue on the last few. Gross Buckets still a mystery!!

This is part of one of my all time favorite poems:
(the subject is lasting love)

How many loved your moments of glad grace,
And loved your beauty with love false or true,
But one man loved..............................

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From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 31 May 07 - 05:50 PM

"Bill is gross buckets, and he howls the Harvard Fight Song!"?
or
"Bill is gross buckets, and he howls the innate frustration incumbent upon him viewing the desperate nature of his situation !"

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 May 07 - 06:16 PM

Hmmm. You're getting a bit warmer, LEJ.

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 May 07 - 06:23 PM

What must be done is to determine who Bill is. I'll give you a clue or two. He is not Bill Clinton, he is not Bill Shatner. He is, however, someone who has been seen in newspapers across the nation. He has achieved fame. Well, notoriety, at any rate.

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 04:44 PM

Meanwhile, here's another one to drive you all nuts...

"We Peeweegahs, with our arrows, stilled...."

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From: Alice
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 11:06 PM

We grow too soon old and.........

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 11:11 PM

...too late smart."

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From: Alice
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 11:14 PM

very good

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From: Mickey191
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 12:32 AM

May the roof of this house never fall in
and .............


Puritanism: The haunting fear that ................


May you live as long as you want,
and ..............

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From: mrdux
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 12:50 AM

"Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."

                                – H. L. Mencken

It has also come up as "A Puritan is someone who is desperately afraid that, somewhere, someone might be having a good time."


"May you live as long as you want and never want as long as you live."

"May the roof of this house never fall in and may these friends beneath it never fall out."

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From: mrdux
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 12:59 AM

"I will be exonerated of any ridiculousness. . ."

"Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for. . ."

"Beware of all enterprises that. . ."

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From: kendall
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 07:27 AM

..that require a new suit. Mark Twain???

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From: Mickey191
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 09:54 AM

Great job mrdux.

My wall plaque: Puritanism: The haunting fear that somewhere someone is having a good time. H.L.M.

May the roof of this house never fall in and those within never fall out.

Six of one half dozen of the other! Now who said that?

Gross Buckets is still hanging in the wind-as are a few others. Truth to tell, I'm so unhip--that when LH finally gives the answer--I won't know what he's talking about!

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From: The Walrus
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 10:18 AM

No takers on "Gentlemen, we may not change history tomorrow, but..." ?

Would it help if I point out that the 90th Anniversary appears on the 6th of this month?

W

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From: JennyO
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 11:16 AM

"Gentlemen, we may not change history tomorrow, but we shall certainly change the geography"

Herbert Plumer, 6th June 1917

It is about the Battle of the Messines in the First World War. No, I didn't know this one till I looked it up, but it makes interesting reading, so I thought I would link to it here.

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 11:47 AM

But one man ?saw the pilgrim soul in you,
And loved the sorrows of your changing face;

something like that:

"Quand vous sera toute gris,
Assis aupres de la feu,
Devidant et filant... &c &c
... Ronsard me celebrait quand j'etais belle

And Yeats did so for Maud Gonne, in translation. Mind you, he also described her as "drinking the ditch where they lie".


For the Walrus, I wonder if it's anything to do with Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov?

For everyone else:

"Life scarce can cast a fragrance on the breeze,
But ........ "

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Mickey191
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 12:55 PM

An Buachaill Caol Dubh, Have you got another name--Like when your called for tea: "Henry, the tay is on."

You are correct on Yeats beautiful love poem.

Are you in Ireland? Just nosey! Mickey.

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Mickey191
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 02:26 PM

Hello Henry (TEE HEE)
\
I wanted to see your french translated to English. The first site said they'd do it for $65.00. I demurred. Second site (Babel Fish) gave this:

When you is very gray, Assis aupres of fire, Devidant and spinning... &c &c... Ronsard celebrait me when I etais beautiful
When you i
s very gray, Assis aupres of fire, Devi
dant and spinning... &
c &c... Ronsard celebrait me
when I etais beautiful

Kinda loses something in transit.

That was a very bitchy thing Yeats said about the beautiful Maud Gonne. Not nice. Refresh my memory please-she had another famous lover-but can't recall at this moment. Do you know - was he her husband?

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Micca
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 04:10 PM

Mickey 191 here is the info you seek I think
"Maude Gonne, one of the most colourful characters of Irish history, was in fact an English woman. She was born in Surrey in 1866, the daughter of an Army Colonel. Two years after her birth her father was posted to Ireland and after her mother's death in 1871 she spent her childhood between her father in Dublin and relatives in England, which she hated.

After his death in 1886 her own illness took her to convalesce in France. She had a long affair with French nationalist Lucein Milleyoye, by whom she had two children. Through him she met the old Fenian John O'Leary and she joined the Irish Republican Brotherhood. It was under Maude's spell that Yeats became a member of the Nationalist Movement.

......

Maude married the Boer War veteran John McBride in February 1903. They separted in 1905 after a long wrangle over custody of their only child, Sean. John McBride was executed with the leaders of the 1916 Rising, in what was regarded as more of an act of revenge by the British for his Boer War exploits. His son Sean McBride, entered the Irish political scene of the 1930's, became an International lawyer, founded Amnesty International in 1961, and had the unique distinction of winning both the Nobel and Lenin Peace Prizes.

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Mickey191
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 04:17 PM

Thank you Micca, very interesting. Maude must have been quite a woman. Guess she had brains as well as beauty. Otherwise I don't think she would have attracted those types of men. Course I could be all wet too.

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: mrdux
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 05:37 PM

Kendall --

very close.

"Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes."

                – Henry David Thoreau, Walden (1854), I. Economy

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From: The Walrus
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 08:43 PM

JennyO,

"Daddy" Plumer it was - the night before they spang the mines and blew the top off Messines Ridge.

W

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Trevor Thomas
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 09:34 PM

I thought that the 'Bill' in question might be Bill the
Cat out of the Bloom County cartoons. I don't recognise tthe quotation, though.

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 10:02 PM

Hurrah! You are correct, Trevor. Well done. I shall now reveal all.

The quotation appeared in a Sunday strip. You may recall that Bill the Cat had, during his sordid career, formed a heavy metal rock group in which he was the lead singer and also played the tongue (his tongue, of course). The group was initially called "Deathtongue", with an umlaut over the "o" in "tongue". Opus the Penguin was also part of the group, as were a couple of other characters from the strip. One of their big hits was called "U Stink But I Love U" (with a heart symbol for the word "Love"...naturally...that was very much the style in music at the time). They later renamed themselves "Billy and the Boingers" and pursued fame, fortune, sex, drugs, the usual stuff...

I think that sleazy lawyer Steve Dallas was involved too, but I can't recall in what capacity.

At any rate, this Sunday strip was a parody of the Barry Manilow hit playing above Bill's and the band's gyrations...and I paraphrase it (cos I can't exactly recall all the lyrics)...it went kinda like this:

Bill howls the songs that knot my underwear...
Bill howls the songs that make me tear out my hair...
Bill hows the songs that make the young girls cry...
He howls the songs, Bill howls the songs...
Bill is gross buckets...and he howls the SOOOONNNNNNGGGGGS!

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: GUEST,Songster Bob
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 10:46 PM

Second try at posting this.

Now that we know the answer to the original, try this one:

We have met the enemy and he ....

Three well-known answers that I know of. Name them and their sources, please.


Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 01:28 AM

"We have met the enemy and they are ours; two ships, two brigs, one schooner and one sloop." - Oliver Hazard Perry, American commander, reporting on his naval victory over the British on Lake Erie in 1813.

Very famous, but really quite a typical thing for a victorious commander to say in those days. Since naval victories were few and far between in those years for the rather small American fleet, this statement from Perry became very well remembered in the USA.

"We have met the enemy and he is us." - A very wise comment from Pogo. Positively zenlike, in fact.

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: mrdux
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 01:35 AM

Bob --

I only know one, with variant. The short form is:

"We have met the enemy and he is us."

It's attributed to Walt Kelly, and I think Pogo himself is to have said it, and that's the one that I've known for years. But I've never actually seen it written that way in any Pogo strip (I admit that my search has not been all that diligent). What I have found is this longer form, in context:

"There is no need to sally forth, for it remains true that those things which make us human are, curiously enough, always close at hand. Resolve then, that on this very ground, with small flags waving and tinny blasts on tiny trumpets, we shall meet the enemy, and not only may he be ours, he may be us."

        "Forward!"

                                – Walt Kelly, The Pogo Papers

michael

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: mrdux
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 01:57 AM

"We have met the enemy and he has been smashed."
(or is it "We have met the enemy and they have been smashed."?)

                         -- Tom Paxton, "Talking Vietnam Pot Luck Blues"

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: guitar
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 09:10 AM

oh f..
what a load..

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 12:31 PM

Ha! That's easy.

Oh, flip! What a load of horse puckey.

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: Songster Bob
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 10:13 PM

Correct answers to all three. I assume there may be others, since the original and the Pogo ones are so well-known.

Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Finish the quote...
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 02:46 PM

Micca beat me to it on MG and MacBride (see "Easter 1916" for Yeats "writing it out in a line", tho' he calls Major McB "a drunken, vainglorious lout"). The French verse I tried to recall was, I'm pretty sure, garbled; now I'm thinking the first line should have been,
"Quand vous sera bien vielle..." (since "toute gris" can mean, in addition to "all grey", "pretty much drunken" in colloquial French, or at least it could some years ago). I was trying to give the Ronsard poem of which "When you are old and grey..." is a rendition.

On that note, then, can anyone complete:

"I'm S**** of S*****, aged sixty-odd,
I've lived....."

and what's his relation to Jock ****** of Peterhead?


Exits An Buachaill Caol Dubh

(Robt G)