BS: Breast feeding in public

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Desdemona
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 08:07 PM

Wow, Guest/Ronnie, that IS impressive. So clever and sensitive, in fact, that it almost makes a person regret that some ignorant moron didn't put your mum off feeding *you*!

~D

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 07:09 PM

As I was told at a meeting for fathers to be:
It provides all the nourishment a baby needs.
It is convenient at all times.
It is always at the right temperature.
& It comes in the containers that fathers prefer.

CHEERS
Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Peace
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 04:55 PM

Well, the mother that got scared into the toilet by Guest Ronnie and his friend was scared of boobs, that's for sure.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Kim C
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 03:59 PM

Bob must be afraid of boobs.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 03:48 PM

Only one word for that Ronnie, and it rhymes with anchor.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 02:05 PM

Guest/Ronnie, you forced the nursing mother to finish her own lunch in the toilet? Bravo!

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: gnu
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 01:52 PM

Okay, I will.

Hey, Bob. Yer suckin the hind tit on this one. Grow up!

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Peace
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 01:52 PM

VERY impressive. To think that two men could intimidate one woman holding a baby. Good on ya!

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: GUEST,Ronnie
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 01:50 PM

I have to agree, there is far too much of this "In your face" in society these days. Do what I do.

I was having a swift half one Sunday lunch time and this young lady there for lunch took out her breast and began to feed her kid at the table.

It was lunchtime and the bar was full, mostly men. I sat and watched, smiled, winked at her and my mate did the same.

She wasn´t long heading into the toilet to complete the task !

Man power works.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Desdemona
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 08:23 PM

That lost comment puts me in mind of the episode of "Absolutely Fabulous" where Edina is expounding how great it was to live in a commune, since Saffy was always breast-fed...just not by HER...!

~D

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 07:19 PM

Well, THAT depends on whose baby it is, no?

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 06:40 PM

The person who should have the final say in this is the baby. If she or he is all right about feeding in public, that's the right way. If she or he prefers more piece and quiet, that's the right way. And the judgement about what the baby likes is up to the mother, taking into account how she feels about it, because if she isn't comfortable the baby isn't going to be happy either.

And it's got nothing whatever to do with bystanders.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: kendall
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 05:12 PM

I have nothing but respect and admiration for women who breast feed. They have their heads screwed on right, unlike some judges from the dim past.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 03:24 PM

"New York City pays $29,000 for arresting topless woman"

This is from a current thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: guitar
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 02:06 PM

for all these people that is against breast feeding, I mean would like to have your dinner in the toilet

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Midchuck
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 01:26 PM

I'm not sure there is any object that is both as beautiful and as useful as a well-formed tit, unless it's a fine guitar.

Why would anybody object to seeing one, whether in active use or not?

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 01:24 PM

I have led a sheltered life . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: bobad
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 01:08 PM

Men can do it too

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 01:00 PM

"Breast feeding in public"

I don't do it myself, but I am in favour of women doing so.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 12:36 PM

its hard to believe people are still upset about nursing in public
but sometimes it still comes up, there was a case last year of a woman being asked to leave a store here in BC because she was breastfeeding...
sidenote..

my first daughter breastfed up until 16months (by that time it was just once a day - in the mornings) and she stopped finally of her own choice.
My wife was a bit disappointed when that happened, but was glad to have breastfed as long as that, and that it was Annas choice.

now daughter number two who is 6 1/2 months, is a lovely 17-18lbs and radiant and healthy and its all mother milk. We are just introducing some solids although still not enough interests.

Im a bit jealous of my wifes ability to provide that comfort and nourishment, since I obviously cant do it. Once or twice we she did express some milk and I got to bottle feed her, but its different
and sometimes babies get a bit lazy about breastfeeding if they use the bottle as its a bit more work to breast feed.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: MMario
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 11:25 AM

true - the victorians were experts at "not seeing" anything they really didn't want to see.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 10:38 AM

I think it's a bit hard blaming the Victorians for weird hang-ups about this that are much more characteristic of the 20th Century.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: stallion
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 10:12 AM

I suppose it is an "Eye of the beholder" thing. there are some truly wonderous sights and the serenity and Joy of a nursing mother a babe is one of them, it is such a beautiful thing and I was, I suppose, a tad envious that I was excluded from that particular activity with our three kids. If I ever see it happening I get a warm rosy yummy feeling, it seems the most natural thing in the world, and most, if not all, mothers are discreet enough that one would have to stare pretty hard to get a glimpse of any "busty substances" so who would want to do that. The world has moved on ( well that old puritan / victorian world) and mums can now incorporate breast feeding in their daily lives without hiding away and why shouldn't they.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 17 Jun 07 - 08:29 PM

"Just an age limit put on posting among this pack of old cronies who seem to know everything. You could export smart arses from here, bores in abundance."

Comeon Bob, you are being too hard on yourself. Next time you will know better than be such a smart ass. Take the meds, a nap and you won't be such a bore.

Face it, you got what you were wishing for. Don't be such a sorry sack. You are far from offended. You knew that there would be people that disagree with you and you clouded your opening statement to make it so. You give the definition to the word "geezer".

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Jun 07 - 08:18 PM

That photo of the nursing babe that Peace linked is a beautiful, serene shot. However, I too wondered about ending up with a wet lap.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: bbc
Date: 17 Jun 07 - 12:45 PM

Thanks, Bob.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Jun 07 - 12:27 PM

When they're toddlers they get pretty much all of their nutrition from the food they eat. Nursing is relegated to those times when they're settling down to sleep or maybe when they first get up in the morning. This is where Mom's immune system is still protecting the child, she isn't offering much to the caloric intake. No one I know would have considered nursing a toddler in public unless it was an extreme situation (like nursing on an airplane take-off and landing to keep the ears from popping and thus preventing screaming and disturbing everyone in earshot). They're more interested in regular food than nursing once they get old enough to eat, but the nursing is an elemental thing that they gradually outgrow ("child led weaning").

Personally, I think those women who keep it going beyond the toddler stage, until the child is in school and beyond, have some of their own problems they need to deal with.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: GUEST,Bob
Date: 17 Jun 07 - 11:18 AM

bcc, I respect your remark.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Jun 07 - 09:59 AM

Ref. the picture linked to above...it LOOKS wonderful, but what goes in must come out. Me, I'd never nurse a naked baby.

THAT would be gross.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: bbc
Date: 17 Jun 07 - 09:25 AM

Bob,

I notice you choose to ignore the more moderate responses to your posts.

best,

bbc

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: GUEST,Bob
Date: 17 Jun 07 - 08:48 AM

No there won't be an age limit put on breast feeding. Just an age limit put on posting among this pack of old cronies who seem to know everything. You could export smart arses from here, bores in abundance.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 17 Jun 07 - 06:54 AM

Is there going to be an age limit put on the child being breast fed in public. There are some women who feed to school age?

Presumably it will be only young babies and common sense will prevail that in public a toddler can use a cup.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 11:49 PM

When Moonglow was tiny nursing took a long time. I set myself up with a tankard of water (talk about thirsty work!) and a book to read. I knew it was time to wean her when, at about 2 1/2, she climbed up into my lap to nurse and SHE had a book to read!

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Sorcha
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 10:13 PM

OH DEAR GODS! It's a NAKED BABY eating it's din din!!! PORN ALERT!

Good one, Peace.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Peace
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 09:08 PM

???????????????????

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Sorcha
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 08:56 PM

Evolution...food, food, uh, food, uh, sex related to food, food again....

Then ...OH DEAR...SEX! Hey, fellas, if we suck on these things......

Well, F**K me.

I had to wean our daughter when she was 11 mos. I cried. So did she. It was a medical thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 07:28 PM

I can think of five or six just like that...but I am not going to list them here. Or elsewhere. Think in terms of evolution. mg

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Rog Peek
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 06:13 PM

mg - ".........multiple functions." Just how many did you have in mind?

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 05:27 PM

Well, I would disagree...I think that there are multiple functions involved, which is exactly why people are so uncomfortable. mg

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Desdemona
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 05:18 PM

As Richard Thompson so eloquently put it:

"That's what they're there for,
That's what they're there for,
Who are we to ask the why or wherefor?"

But seriously, I find this a particularly ludicrous "controversy," especially in a nation that annually spends some shocking number of billions on pornography (too lazy to look up exact #s, but you get my drift). When a baby is hungry it needs to be fed; simple. A modicum of ordinary discretion should ensure that interfering busybodies with nothing better to bitch about won't be affronted by the sight of a breast in the performance of its natural function, as opposed to being squeezed out of a push-up bra for the purpose of, er, titillation!

~D

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 03:53 PM

My girlfriend had a similar story -- her child was nearly two when the second one came and had been weaned for about 6 months. Seeing the baby nurse, she asked if she could -- my friend said sure. The child nursed for about 30 seconds then said, ugh, it's WARM and never asked again

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 04:50 AM

When I was stationed in Berlin in 1972-73, it seemed that Berliners were offended by pregnancy and nursing. My ex and I were on a bus one time about two months before my son was born. For no apparent reason, an old woman called my very pregnant wife "eine Hexe" (a witch). All we could guess is that the woman was offended by seeing a pregnant woman in public.
I do feel guilty about changing my son's diaper in a booth at a Wimpy's restaurant in Bremerhaven. When I got the diaper off, my son sprayed - right on the people in the next booth. The people didn't say anything, and I didn't realize until later that they had been hit.

As for nursing babies in public, I see it quite often - but I rarely see a breast in the process. Women here in liberal California may go topless at the beach, but they're quite discreet about covering up when they're nursing.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 03:01 AM

Truebrit, I was 33, nearly 34 when I had my first child. 37 with the second. They both weaned at about 2 1/2 years. (The last year or 18 months was mostly bedtime, nap, and first thing in the morning, it wasn't like it was their sole nutrition.) Weaning was easy. I usually read a book at night and they nursed, so when we were ready to quit Dad read the book at night. They didn't miss a thing because there was no expectation to nurse when Dad read.

Funny story, though. When the second child was born the first was 3 1/2. She's forgotten all about nursing, but was curious. She asked one day if she could nurse, so I sat down in the rocker and opened my shirt. She climbed up in my lap and then tried to figure out how to do it, pursing her lips but not knowing the suck any more. It was pretty funny for both of us! I offered to express a little into a cup that comes with the cough syrup, and she said that would be good. She took a taste and ran away. I asked what she'd done and she told me "I spit it out!" I think she asked one more time, about six months later, and that was that.

;-D

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 15 Jun 07 - 11:06 PM

Stilly River Sage -- you are so right --nursing a child is a wonderful experience. When I had my first child at the advanced old age of 32, with absolutely NO experience with babies before that, the ONLY thing that was tolerable to me about the whole being a mother 'thing' was nursing that child. I nursed all three of mine -- they all weaned at their own choice - one at 2 years, one at 9 months and one at 6 months........; I never intended to give offence to anyone, but if that child was hungry I had the ability to quieten that child and it was like a miracle. Breast feeding is one of the most natural acts in the entire world -- if the world had not 'dirtied' the concept of breasts and turned them nto something merely sexual, this whole thread would be unnecessary.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: maeve
Date: 15 Jun 07 - 11:02 PM

"Are there any songs?"

Yes: Janet Russell's "Breastfeeding Baby in the Park" is one, and Cindy Kallet and John Blodgett's song "I'm a Mammal" as recorded by Kallet, Epstein, and Cicone on Cindy's "Only Human" album. Both are priceless!

maeve

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: bbc
Date: 15 Jun 07 - 10:54 PM

Bob,

I can understand why seeing women with uncovered breasts, unexpectedly, might be uncomfortable to you; it is, somewhat, for me, too. Please don't condemn all nursing moms, however, because of those who are inconsiderate or unconscious in their behavior. I nursed both of my kids whenever they needed it, but I always wore loose tops that I could drape to cover myself & I always had a cloth diaper with me, as well, for the times when my baby might unexpectedly move. No one ever caught more than a glimpse of my breasts & then probably only if they were making a point of looking. Breastfeeding is a completely natural part of the mothering of young children & I think it's ridiculous to consider restricting it to bathrooms. We should all, however, try to be considerate & respect the feelings of others. I hope you do that, too.

best,

bbc

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Peace
Date: 15 Jun 07 - 10:16 PM

. . . and before too long they'll want the vote, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Jun 07 - 06:31 PM

Quite a lot of these women don't even wear a veil.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Jun 07 - 06:04 PM

LOLOLOL! Just watch out for the Poor Clares, OK?

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jun 07 - 05:30 PM

Yes, Sister Mary. I said em. Now can I go?