BS: humanitarian crisis in Iraq

Subject: BS: humanitarian crisis in Iraq
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 30 Jul 07 - 03:06 PM

Not only has GWB and friends failed to 'win the war on terrorism' by invading Iraq, he has created a humanitarian crisis. He must be held accountable. When will his incompetence be addressed by congress?

...and how could anyone support his obvious greed and corruption? Why?

"The report states that as many as four million Iraqis are in dire need of help getting food, many of them children; 70 percent of the country now lacks access to adequate water supplies, up from 50 percent in 2003, and 90 percent of the country's hospitals lack basic medical and surgical supplies."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/world/middleeast/30cnd-Iraq.html?ref=world

Subject: RE: BS: humanitarian crisis in Iraq
From: Shakey
Date: 30 Jul 07 - 05:28 PM

And I suppose it's the US troops that kidnap and murder the NGO's trying to help the people there.

Subject: RE: BS: humanitarian crisis in Iraq
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 12:36 AM

Tonight's news had a segment on this. They laid it to the corruption of the new Iraqi government.

Subject: RE: BS: humanitarian crisis in Iraq
From: Barry Finn
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 12:57 AM

Which is seperate & unconnected with our own collective collition of corruption. No blame there.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: humanitarian crisis in Iraq
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 01:01 AM

Where to lay the blame? I imagine you could lay it at the feet of a great many people...the Americans, Al Queda, the Sunnis, the Shiites, the Kurds, even the Iranians?

But who started that war in 2003? And over what?

Here's a comparative example: The Nazis created a huge humanitarian crisis when they invaded Yugoslavia. After their invasion had succeeded, various local forces arose. Some of those were pro-German...that being the Croatian forces. They helped massacre non-Croatian Yugoslavs. Many more were anti-German...that being mainly Tito's forces. They massacred Yugoslavs who were pro-German. The Germans massacred more Yugoslavs.

They were all creating a humanitarian crisis...for somebody. That's what armies do.

But who was most to blame for it?

I'd say the Germans were. They were the great power which invaded in the first place and started the whole damn mess.

This ain't so hard to figure out, really, is it? Do you think the USA went into Iraq in 2003 to help the Iraqis????

Heh! Well, if you do, you are capable of believing anything. Anything at all.

Will Bush be held accountable? Naw. I don't think so. Not unless there is a Third World War and the USA loses it. If that happens, though, we may not be around to see who is held accountable when it's over.

Subject: RE: BS: humanitarian crisis in Iraq
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 03:57 AM

No, I don't think U.S. troops are kidnapping NGO's. That has very little to do with what caused the lack of clean water and medical supplies. In fact, why should NGO's have to exhaust their resources to clean up after Bush? The U.S. created the problem and the U.S. should be responsible for providing assistance to the Iraqis who did not ask for this misery. Don't forget, the Iraqis did not attack America. The invasion was not an act of self-defense.

If the Bush administration had left the Baathist's to help coordinate the services, at least there would have been some hope for the people. Instead he threw them out and appointed unqualified cronies who had absolutely no idea how to provide services in a war torn country. He completely destroyed any possibility for the Iraqi people to survive his invasion. He should be tried for crimes against humanity. His incompetence is astounding.

Of course, they would blame it on corruption of the new Iraqi government. It was, however, the U.S. who wanted a new government.

Subject: RE: BS: humanitarian crisis in Iraq
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 08:16 PM

I fear that George Bush will never, on this earth, be held accountable for any of his terrible misjudgements and decisions...


One thing that the Republican led impeachemnt preceedings against Bill Clinton did was poison the waters for such a venture for a long time to come... The American people, who are sick to death of partisan politics would punish any party that resorted to impeachment...

This is wht Gonzalez won't be impeached, even tho there is a very reasonable arguement to do so...

Yes, the Repubs certainly, probably without knowing it in impeaching Clinton, were settin' up an impregnantable defense for Bush to get away with anything and everything he wanted to do...

...and so he has...

And done a fine job of screwing up just about everything he has touched...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: humanitarian crisis in Iraq
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 08:57 PM

One of the worrisome things is in future. As much power as Bush has abrogated to himself and his cohorts, will the next administration - of either stripe- be willing to give up a good share of it?

It seems likely to me that we're setting up for a mad Constitutional crisis, beyond what we already are confronted with.

Subject: RE: BS: humanitarian crisis in Iraq
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 09:28 PM

Hey, I don't want the Clinton's with this power, that much is fir sure...