Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!

Subject: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Mick Tems
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 09:54 AM

Gregory Gene (of the Prodigals, the NY celtic band) has come up with a drink recipe - enjoy!

On second thoughts, replace the Magners/Bulmers cider with Weston's Old Rosie or Gwynt yr Ddraig perry... much more preferable!

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And, LAST, want to stake our most hopeful claim to real lasting fame...on Labor Day weekend, Sunday, actually Monday morning 2.30am approximately, the band came up with the greatest new drink since Irish Coffee was devised at Shannon Airport - at least it tasted that brilliant at 2.30am... an inspired collaboration between bartender Craig Jurgenson and yours truly, with major tasting undertaken by Ed, Eamon and Dustin:

Recipe for Cavan Apple Sauce:

1 3/4 full pint glass Magners/Bulmer's cider
1 3/4 full shot glass of Goldschlager or 101 proof
Cinnamon Schnapps
Splash of Red Bull

At the perfect moment, drop the shot into the pint, top the foaming glass with a splash of Red Bull, and imbibe heartily...amazing stuff... next morning too...

Love and happy hangovers,
Gregory/Prodigals

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 11:06 AM

or make it with a proper job somerset mass youth market bottled cider..

..and despite the novelty packaging...


its still a more 'real' cider

than sickly chemically sweet magners & bulmers will ever be..


and 5p per bottle gets donated to prostate cancer research...



http://www.thatcherscider.co.uk/wurzels/

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Mick Tems
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 11:56 AM

Of course... I love Thatchers cider, especially Katy. You see, it's a truly evolving recipe.

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 12:04 PM

Actually, I invented something very similar on the Monday night of Towersey last year - Old Rosie with a liberal dollop of my own homemade cinnamon vodka. Gorgeous.

This is how my cinnamon vodka became rather famous. And why I couldn't even say my own name the following day.

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Mick Tems
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 12:08 PM

...or how about Swan cider, from "Chateau Shed" in Llantrisant, a startlingly tasty real cider, brewed with his own loving hands by Dave Jones, secRATary of the RATS, the Real Ale Tasting Society?

Or several real ciders and perries made by Seidr Dai (Dave Matthews) at his Welsh apple orchards? Pure nectar!

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Mick Tems
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 12:28 PM

Sorry, Ruth - we crossed in the post. How do you make cinnamon vodka? Phil Tanner, the Gower nightingale, had a recipe which he brewed secretly before going out with the Gower Wassail. The wassailers would come to the houses in Llangennith, and the neighbours would invite them in, each one topping up the 'susan' (Gower dialect for a eight-pint wassail pot) with gin, whisky, vodka, anything you could name. At the end of the wassail, Phil and his friends would retire into their snug at The King's Head, with full wassail pot, where the landlady has thoughtfully provided straw. They would not come out again for three days.

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Mick Tems
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 12:52 PM

Damn, mispelled him. It's Gregory GRENE.

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 01:16 PM

Hmmmmmmmmm call yerself cider drinkers? this is a cocktail.
You'll be advocatting (sic) cider snowballs next.

Cider is fer drinking, not stirring.

You try telling young people today .......................

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Sugwash
Date: 07 Sep 07 - 03:51 AM

Once, when I was suffering from a hangover at a Sunday lunchtime session, a Scottish shipmate of mine recommended a pint of Blackthorn cider with a gin top as a specific against the curse of Bacchus. Sure enough, the hangover was gone in no time. The subsequent hangover, however...

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Sep 07 - 07:27 PM

I think I'd sooner just have the cider.

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: open mike
Date: 07 Sep 07 - 08:38 PM

well cinnamon goes well with apples in pie and cobbler....
what is Goldschlager?

here are some of my favorite ciders:

Wyder's
Blackthorn
Hornsby
Woodpecker (Bulmer's)
Strongbow Cider
ACE CIDER
http://www.sallys-place.com/beverages/beer/hard_cider.htm
http://www.woodchuck.com/

several of these are distributed by green mountain beverage.
some of them are difficult to find in the U.S.

if you like cider or mead you may have a hard time finding them here.

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Sep 07 - 09:04 PM

Drop the shot into the pint-
In the Chicago area called a submarine.

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: open mike
Date: 07 Sep 07 - 09:17 PM

i saw this dropping game done in a sushi restaurant..
the shot glass balanced on 2 chopsticks laid across
above the beer glass and the table was hit with hands
and arms and as the shot glass fell into the beer it
was swallowed quickly...or make it was sake'?

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Stu
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 05:48 AM

Blackthorn
Woodpecker (Bulmer's)
Strongbow Cider

These brands are to ciders what Bud or Coors are to beer - mass-produced knat's piss that is sold on the strength of the brand and not on the quality of the product. Magners is little better - it's developed a following from just a slick marketing campaign. The cider itself come recommended very chilled with ice in the glass - this is so you can't actually taste it.

If youi enjoyy cider drinking it's worth abandoning these pale imitations and getting to know the real thing. Westons is always great cider, and if you can ever get to the west of England or into Wales you will find plenty of small presses making excellent strong cider. In fact, across the UK you can often get really good cider in many pubs.

Check out this site (especially the excellent wiki): www.ukcider.co.uk/

I like cider
cider makes me fart
when I fart I'm happy
when I'm happy I work
when I work I get money
when I get money I buy cider
I like cider
cider makes me fart . . . (repeat ad nauseum)

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: greg stephens
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 06:51 AM

There are two basic rules for proper cider drinking.
1) No Bulmer's
2) No Magner's

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 08:21 AM

Cinnamn vodka:

you make a sugar syrup with water and sugar, and add a lot of cinnamon - actualy, i use the big, rough bunches of cassia bark I get on Loughborough market - much cheaper, and stronger flavour. Boil the water, sugar and cassia bark for several hours. When you're happy with the strength of the syrup, take it off the heat and let it cool. Pour it into a big mixing bowl through a collander and dispose of the cinnamon. Add 3 bottles of vodka to the syrup. Stir well. Decant into bottles.

How much water? How much sugar? How much cinnamon? I dunno - I just kind of guess and chuck it all in.

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Mick Tems
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 12:41 PM

Thanks, Ruth! Open Mike, Goldschlager is a magical, wonderful cinnamon spirit, brewed with gold flakes. It tastes like heaven and is very, very potent. I had some in Roanoke, Virginia - Charlene Hutcheson (for it was she) ordered up two Goldschlagers and watched me drink it, with a smile on her lips. A while back, I was going for my real ale in The Boar's Head, Tyle Garw (an out-of-the-way place) when I spotted a bottle of Goldschlager. This friend of the landlord's had tried a Goldschlager in America, and begged The Boar's Head to get him some. The Boar's Head must have connections all the way to the top, for I don't think it's marketed here - but there was the Goldshlager. The Boar's Head hasn't managed to get one since, and I live on happy memories of cimmamon and gold... ahhh!

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: harpmolly
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 02:09 PM

I confess to a weakness for Wyder's Pear cider...it's very dry and tart, which I prefer. If I'm desperate, I'll also go for Hornsby's Crisp Apple, even though it isn't quite as good.

It's hard to get really good imported cider around here (Seattle). Even at Bottleworks I've been disappointed. If anyone has suggestions, I'd like to hear them. PCC Natural Markets in Fremont sometimes has a decent selection, but I'm too depressed to go there since the cashier I had a huge crush on got another job. (Did I say that out loud? Oops...)

;)

Molly

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 06:23 AM

I wonder why they don't make cider all over England. Its wet everywhere. You could grow apples most places. between visits to the southwest, I really miss the decent stuff.

I went through a period of settling for Scrumpy Jack, but its not a patch on the real stuff.

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Morticia
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 06:43 AM

Dear God, Mick, I dread to think the hangover that little concoction would give me, cider on it's own does a good enough job.

Idris likes the proper job cider, Thatchers Something Nasty That Is A Strange, Bio-hazard Orange Colour being his favourite but he also likes the flourescent green one they make. Wonder what his insides look like? No, on second thoughts, I don't.

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Mr Red
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 07:52 AM

open mike

Read the side o' the cider can. Contains artificial sugars and sweeteners. Aspartame maybe. They have shortened that description but they can't remove it. Cider is a legal Eurodefinition. Anything else must declare ingredients.

Scrumpy Jack (Bulmers) Magners & the Bulmers' answer to it And Gaymers Cyder don't declare ingedients other than cider & sulphur to kill natural yeasts.

artificial sweeteners give some people headaches. In my case about a pint sooner than without them. Though the experiment is continuing the restricted sample above is dominant.

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Folkiedave
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 09:04 AM

Cinnamon vodka:

you make a sugar syrup with water and sugar, and add a lot of cinnamon - actualy, i use the big, rough bunches of cassia bark I get on Loughborough market - much cheaper, and stronger flavour. Boil the water, sugar and cassia bark for several hours. When you're happy with the strength of the syrup, take it off the heat and let it cool. Pour it into a big mixing bowl through a collander and dispose of the cinnamon. Add 3 bottles of vodka to the syrup. Stir well. Decant into bottles.

How much water? How much sugar? How much cinnamon? I dunno - I just kind of guess and chuck it all in.

And you gave me this to drink? Why bless you Ruth.....xxxxx

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 08:56 AM

Whenever I click on this thread through Mudcat I get a page saying "Access denied".
Is someone in cyberspace fearful of what might happen if I get hold of the instructions for making cinnamon vodka?

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: GUEST,Mr Fox
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 07:22 PM

There are two basic rules for proper cider drinking.
1) No Bulmer's
2) No Magner's

And third (and most important) - NO BLOODY ICE!

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Bonecruncher
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 08:42 PM

I've recently discovered Wychwood Green Goblin cider, which is, according to the label, made for the Wychwood brewery by Thatchers. Nonetheless, it is quite palateable, although perhaps a trifle sweet for some tastes.

Colyn.

Subject: RE: Truly amazing Celtic cider - enjoy!
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 07:29 PM

I agree with most of above: the proper temperature for full appreciation of the taste of cider is ROOM temperature, so no Bl##dy ice and no bl##dy fridges either. I am seething at the pubs that have removed all forms of draught cider in favour of Magner's, and one has recently replaced draught Blackthorn (not ideal but better than some) with Strongbow (even less so!)
Up here en Ecosse, you can buy Weston's and Thatcher's in bottles in thr supermarket, but can't get anything like it in the pubs. I've found one pub in Leith that does Addlestone's cloudy cider on draught, but not a patch on the Thatcher's dry from the big drums.
The beer drinkers usually get a big choice of beers, so why not the cider-heads?