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BS: Today is Mole Day

Padre 23 Oct 07 - 06:45 PM
Jean(eanjay) 23 Oct 07 - 06:49 PM
Emma B 23 Oct 07 - 06:53 PM
John MacKenzie 23 Oct 07 - 06:54 PM
Micca 23 Oct 07 - 07:12 PM
bobad 23 Oct 07 - 07:16 PM
bobad 23 Oct 07 - 07:18 PM
catspaw49 23 Oct 07 - 07:47 PM
Emma B 23 Oct 07 - 08:00 PM
Little Hawk 23 Oct 07 - 09:32 PM
Mrrzy 23 Oct 07 - 09:42 PM
Rapparee 23 Oct 07 - 09:53 PM
bobad 23 Oct 07 - 10:01 PM
catspaw49 23 Oct 07 - 10:20 PM
Stilly River Sage 23 Oct 07 - 10:26 PM
John MacKenzie 24 Oct 07 - 04:04 AM
Grab 24 Oct 07 - 05:30 AM
Jean(eanjay) 24 Oct 07 - 05:48 AM
gnu 24 Oct 07 - 06:37 AM
John MacKenzie 24 Oct 07 - 06:41 AM
Mo the caller 24 Oct 07 - 09:02 AM
Stilly River Sage 24 Oct 07 - 10:58 AM
number 6 24 Oct 07 - 11:31 AM
Mrrzy 24 Oct 07 - 01:16 PM
gnu 24 Oct 07 - 03:22 PM
number 6 24 Oct 07 - 06:30 PM
Joe_F 24 Oct 07 - 08:39 PM
John MacKenzie 25 Oct 07 - 05:09 AM
Mo the caller 25 Oct 07 - 10:58 AM
Bill D 25 Oct 07 - 11:19 AM
Bill D 25 Oct 07 - 11:22 AM
Waddon Pete 25 Oct 07 - 04:53 PM
Don Firth 25 Oct 07 - 11:41 PM
Les in Chorlton 26 Oct 07 - 03:47 AM
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Subject: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Padre
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 06:45 PM

Well, today is 'mole day' - the day on which we give thanks for Amedeo Avogadro, and his 'number' (6.02x 10 to the 23rd power).

Padre


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 06:49 PM

Promoting chemistry.

For a given molecule, one mole is a mass (in grams) whose number is equal to the atomic mass of the molecule, e.g. the water molecule has an atomic mass of 18, therefore one mole of water weighs 18 grams.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Emma B
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 06:53 PM

don't mention ******* moles to me!


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 06:54 PM

In 1702, William the third of England died of pneumonia, a complication from a broken collarbone, resulting from a fall off his horse. It was believed by some that his horse had stumbled into a mole's burrow, and as a result many Jacobites toasted "the little gentleman in the black velvet waistcoat."

I'll drink to that !

Slainthe

Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Micca
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 07:12 PM

after a particularly Boozy dinner we got into one of "those conversations" you know the kind that only happens when everyone is mellow and full of good food and drink, anyway the word mole was casually dropped into the conversation as a word that had a wide number of completely unrelated meanings, how many can you come up with?
1 The first as given above Avogadros Number from eanjay
2 Talpa Europea, "the Gentleman in Black velver" from Giok
3 a spy within an organisation, Micca


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: bobad
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 07:16 PM

Also: A small congenital growth on the human skin, usually slightly raised and dark and sometimes hairy, especially a pigmented nevus.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: bobad
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 07:18 PM

Also: Mole (MOH-leh, IPA: /ˈmo.le/) (Mexican Spanish, from Nahuatl mulli or molli, "sauce") is the generic name for several sauces used in Mexican cuisine, as well as for dishes based on these sauces. In addition, it is also a way of designating a dish most of the rest of the world would consider a soup. In English, it often refers to a specific sauce which is known in Spanish by the more specific name mole poblano. The word is also widely known in the combined form guacamole (avocado mole).


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 07:47 PM

Well there are moles and there are moles......Seeing as how this was a Brit thread I figured it was about Philby and McClean and Burgess, et al.......But it wasn't,

But there are moles and there are moles so I decided to add some musical American content(;<))

I WISH I WAS A MOLE IN THE GROUND

I wish l was a mole in the ground.
Yes, I wish I was a mole in the ground:
'F I'se a mole in the ground, l'd root that mountain down,
And I wish I was a mole in the ground.

Oh, Kimpy wants a nine-dollar shawl.
Yes, Kimpy wants a nine-dollar shawl;
When I come o'er the hill with a forty-dollar bill,
'Tis "Baby, where you been so Iong?"

I been in the pen so long.
Yes, I been in the pen so long;
l been in the pen with the rough and rowdy men.
'Tis "Baby, where you been so long?"

I don't like a railroad man.
No, l don't like a railroad man;
'Cause a railroad man they'll kill you when he can,
And drink up your blood like wine.

I wish I was a lizard in the spring.
Ycs, l wish I was a l;zard in the spring;
'F I'se a lizard in the spring, I'd hear my darlin' sing,
An' I wish l was a lizard in the spring.

Come, Kimpy, let your hair roll down.
Kimpy let your hair roll down;
Let your hair roll down and your bangs curl around,
Oh, Kimpy, let your hair roll down.

l wish I was a mole in the ground.
Yes, I wish I was a mole in the ground:
'F I'se a mole in the ground, I'd root that mountain down,
An'I wish I was a mole in the ground.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Emma B
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 08:00 PM

I'll drink to that
moled wine"


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 09:32 PM

So that's where Dylan got that line about the railroad men drinking up your blood like wine in "Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again". I always wondered about that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 09:42 PM

Hurr aye! (Now, who recognizes that reference?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 09:53 PM

Avogadro has your number!


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: bobad
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 10:01 PM

Lorenzo Romano Amedeo Carlo Avogadro, Count of Quaregna and Cerreto (August 9, 1776–July 9, 1856) was an Italian savant. He is most noted for his contributions to the theory of molarity and molecular weight. As a tribute to him, the number of elementary entities (atoms, molecules, ions or other particles) in one mole of a substance, 6.02214199x1023, is known as Avogadro's number.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 10:20 PM

Haaaaay.........Yo....(holds "package").....I gotcher number right here ya' friggin' jagov........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 10:26 PM

My daughter has a t-shirt hanging in her closet here at the house with a rather elaborate (prize winning!) design that the kids each did for mole day in one high school chemistry class.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 04:04 AM

THE MOLE IN THE HOLE
The Southlanders - 1958


I'm not a bat or a rat or a cat,
I'm not a gnu or a kangaroo,
I'm not a goose or a moose on the loose,
I am a mole and I live in a hole.

I'm not a cow or a chow or a sow,
I'm not a snake or a hake or a drake,
I'm not a flea or a wee chimpanzee,
I am a mole and I live in a hole.

Yarg yarg, quarck quarck, fried boiled or roast,
You're the slick chick I dig the most ,
I'm not a ram or a clam or a lamb,
I'm not a hog or a frog or a dog,
I'm not a bus or a hip-potomus,
I am a mole and I live in a hole.

Yarg yarg, quarck quarck, fried boiled or roast,
You're the slick chick I dig the most,
I'm not a ram or a clam or a lamb,
I'm not a hog or a frog or a dog,
I'm not a bus or a hip-potomus,
I am a mole and I live in a hole.
I am a mole and I live in a hole.


Gosh they certainly knew how to write lyrics in those days !
Giok ¦¬]


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Grab
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 05:30 AM

Except Avogadro *didn't* come up with Avogadro's Number - he realised there *was* some number, but he never worked it out. There was an article in NewScientist about this recently. German scientists still call it Loschmidt's Number after the bloke who *actually* found it.

Graham.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 05:48 AM

6.02 x 10^23

Every 23 October 6.02am to 6.02pm.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: gnu
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 06:37 AM

EmmaB... them there moles must be as big as cows to crap like that!


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 06:41 AM

Molesey

Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Mo the caller
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 09:02 AM

Emma,we've got some mole traps (I hate the thought of trapping moles as much as Jim hates the mess the moles make of his grass, but it's OK, they never catch anything.

SOmeone asked for meanings, so I looked online. Iliked the derivations from the "Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper"
"spot on skin," O.E. mal "spot, mark," especially on cloth or linen, from P.Gmc. *mailan "spot, mark" (cf. O.H.G. meil, Ger. Mal, Goth. mail "wrinkle"), from PIE base *mei-/*mai- "to stain, defile" (cf. Gk. miainein "to stain, defile," see miasma). Of human skin, attested from 1398.
"burrowing mammal," 1398, probably from obsolete mouldwarp, lit. "earth-thrower" (common Gmc., cf. O.S. moldwerp, O.H.G. multwurf), from to O.E. molde "earth, soil" (see mold (3)) + weorpan "to throw away" (see warp). Spy sense first recorded 1974 in John le Carré, from notion of "burrowing." Metaphoric use for "one who works in darkness" is from 1601.
"To much amplifying thinges yt. be but small, makyng mountaines of Molehils." [John Foxe, "Acts and Monuments," 1570]

Other meanings
1. a massive structure, esp. of stone, set up in the water, as for a breakwater or a pier.
2. an anchorage or harbor protected by such a structure.
3. Machinery. a large, powerful machine for boring through earth or rock, used in the construction of tunnels.
4. a fleshy mass in the uterus formed by a hemorrhagic dead ovum.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 10:58 AM

Moleskin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: number 6
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 11:31 AM

The Cambridge 5.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 01:16 PM

So nobody gets the reference. Sigh.

meanwhile, the French call Avogadro's Law La Loi d'Avogadro-Ampere, to include the Frenchman who must have contributed somehow...


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: gnu
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 03:22 PM

I've been feeling kinda mole day all day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: number 6
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 06:30 PM

It must be that moly day weather gnu.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Joe_F
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 08:39 PM

Q.: How many guacas are there in a guacamole?
A.: Avocadro's number.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Oct 07 - 05:09 AM

That remark demands molestation Joe.
G


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Mo the caller
Date: 25 Oct 07 - 10:58 AM

"Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Mrrzy - PM
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 01:16 PM

So nobody gets the reference. Sigh."

No. Splain please.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Oct 07 - 11:19 AM

ah, Padre...how they do go on! At least a few got it.

but you didn't post at exactly 6:02 on 1023.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Oct 07 - 11:22 AM

a mole to remember


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 25 Oct 07 - 04:53 PM

Mzzry...would it have something to do with a certain abbey and deeper'n'ever pies?

Peter


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Oct 07 - 11:41 PM

Some moles are more famous than others. Cindy Crawford.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 26 Oct 07 - 03:47 AM

Avagadro has your number, have you got his?

It's only a number but what a clever big number. And one of a number of reasons to seriously doubt homeopathy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Oct 07 - 05:59 PM

Yes, Waddon Pete! I get so HUNGRY reading the Redwall books!


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 27 Oct 07 - 08:43 AM

Me too!


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Subject: RE: BS: Today is Mole Day
From: Jeanie
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 05:55 AM

Thanks very much for those definitions, Mo. I had often wondered why the mole character in the "Little Grey Rabbit" books by Alison Uttley was called Moldey Warp, as an old "country" name for a mole, and although I knew the Modern German word "Maulwurf" for mole, I had never made the connection.

I'm just now reading Alan Bennett's stage adaptation of "The Wind in the Willows", and Mole is without doubt my favourite character. I never saw the original production at the National Theatre, but from the stage directions, I can picture him perfectly, and I think Alan Bennett got him just right:
"Mole has close-cropped black hair, a blazer and sandals. He wears NHS spectacles and though he is a mole he could also be an old-fashioned northern schoolboy."

Mole: Hang spring cleaning ! And hang whitewashing ! Oh the light ! The air ! The *freedom*.

- jeanie


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