BS: We're having a very cold spring here.

Subject: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 May 08 - 07:46 PM

It's been unseasonably cold here (southern Ontario) in April and May so far. Cold nights and cool to temperate days. Right now it's 50 degrees F out there on a sunny evening with clear blue skies. The new grass has barely started to grow. Has anyone else been experiencing a colder than usual spring in their region?

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: bobad
Date: 17 May 08 - 07:55 PM

Here in eastern Ontario it's been slighter cooler than normal but fairly dry and sunny, in fact our garden planting is more advanced than it has been in many a previous year.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Rumncoke
Date: 18 May 08 - 10:43 AM

Here in the South of England, on the coast, close to that little diamond shaped island in the middle, the weather has been warmer, then colder, then warmer, then - like a game of thermometer ping pong.

We had few April showers - it would be dry for a while and then it would pour down, then do the same thing again.

Sort of like normal weather but the variation far wider than normal, as though someone moved the stops further out so whatever the weather is, it is far more so tham usual.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: maire-aine
Date: 18 May 08 - 11:19 AM

I has been chillier than usual here in Michigan, too. I've got the heat on this morning, because it's so cold and damp. We should be in the 70's by now. But can't complain about the rain, because we need it badly.

Maryanne

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 May 08 - 02:16 PM

Well, it's about 45 degrees F out there today, and raining. That's quite cool for late May.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: CarolC
Date: 18 May 08 - 02:21 PM

The weather's perfect here, LH. Come on down and spend a few days on the beach with us in 75 degree sunny weather.

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: GUEST,Sapper near Walsall
Date: 19 May 08 - 01:47 PM

We've turned off the gas Rayburn and don't bother lighting the fires this time of year, but came bloody close to it last night!
Went to hang the 1st batch of post festival washing up and saw ice on a puddle of water!!

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 May 08 - 02:09 PM

-6C here last night, and the same is forecast for tonight, quite a few plants been blighted so far.

Last week this time it was 24C!


G

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Leadbelly
Date: 19 May 08 - 03:43 PM

Climate is changing rapidly. And no government really takes action to prevent our good old world from catastrophic destructions.
The US sleeps well till now. Ever Angela Merkel (Chancellor of Germany) is a hot-air merchant.
Don't wont to live in 2050 and over. It will be terrible.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 May 08 - 03:46 PM

I'd love to, Carol. ;-)

Well, today it's sunny outside and 40 degrees F! On May 19.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: gnu
Date: 19 May 08 - 04:09 PM

Man O Man! I am sweatin bullets! Been out in the back fourty (feet) poundin down fence posts with a twenty pound maul in the hot sun and 80% humidity.

Yup, summer's a comin. Got three of four window air conditioners in the two houses late last week. On accounta, here in the Merrytimes of Canuckistan, we got this thing called spring which lasts about spit time between our two main seasons, snow blowin and lawn mowin. We got the dirty thirties here in both seasons, plus or minus and plus or minus close to ten degrees... that's Celcius... ceptin fer ye Yanks what live in the cold spots... on accounta -40 is -40, whether yer talking C (Celcius) er F (fuckin cold).

Anahwhhhay... I gotta grab a cold cold one and relax on this here National Holiday as my neack and arms are a touch on the red side. In the colony of The Dominion of Canuckville, It is "Victoria Day", in honour of The Empress Queen. Vickie, or "Vi", as I call her, is honoured by most Canucks on this sacred day. Why, if you were to set yer ass along any river hereaboutst, you would see canoes laden with Canoekies paying homage to the Her Majesty with fishing rods a bobbin and ales a clinkin. Of course, local like, it is known as "The May Run".

Little Hawk.... hope yer day today is somewhat warmer... even if it's only because your heart is filled with joy celebrating Vi's Bday.

God Bless The Queen.

Slainte Mhath.... >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 May 08 - 04:57 PM

I think of it as Penelope Rutledge's birthday.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: GUEST,Arnie at work
Date: 19 May 08 - 05:42 PM

gnu - well that's nice isn't it? We invented Queen Victoria and you get the day off whilst I'm stuck here at work!! Have a cold one on me 'cos my office, in common with most in the UK, is a non-alcohol environment.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: irishenglish
Date: 19 May 08 - 06:17 PM

New York City area has been really up and down-just when you think it has broken and we have the 65-70 range, it barely gets out of the 50's, which isn't normal for now. But the alternative of a New York city triple h day, I'd rather have it be chillier!

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: artbrooks
Date: 19 May 08 - 07:16 PM

Hit 95F/35C here today...but it's a dry heat.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 19 May 08 - 08:21 PM

I keep hearing people say "So much for global warming!"
They don't seem to realize this is a good sign of it.
We've been up and down but it hasn't stayed above 70 for two days yet and it's been well below what is considered normal.
Last year it seemed that the winter went on forever as well.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: open mike
Date: 20 May 08 - 02:28 AM

triple digits here--record breaking heat in nor cal.
but a recent killing frost has zapped many of the trees--fruit and otherwise have lost leaves, blossoms. it looks like there will be no cherries here in the foothills this year.

we had a few clouds come over to offer some relief this afternoon.
already there has been a 100 acre fire in the area. and i worked
on the fire engine for 24 hours last week.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Donuel
Date: 20 May 08 - 06:30 PM

The jet stream has moved very far east and then dives way down Virginia. THis cold air stream will remain in place until Hurricaine season when the unusually cold hits the unusually hot and BAM

we will be due for extraordinary record breaking life threatening storms come September on the east coast.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 May 08 - 06:54 PM

There will be a mass migration of Antarctic penguins that will assault the coasts of New England, driving all before them. The military, weakened by its committments overseas, will prove unable to stop them. This will be the beginning of the end.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 20 May 08 - 07:00 PM

They'll be met by herds of migrating very hungry polar bears headed the other way which will probably result in a whole lot of well fed polar bears and not alot of penguins left.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 21 May 08 - 03:43 AM

Global warming my arse, frosts in the middle of May ? bitter cold east wind for the last 3 weeks, roll on global warming.

eric

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 May 08 - 11:44 AM

Crap. Another cold night...there may even have been a touch of frost...and it's 40 degrees F out there today.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: CarolC
Date: 21 May 08 - 02:31 PM

73 degreesF and sunny today (which is nice because it was 85 degrees F yesterday).

Let us know when you're coming and we'll have the guest room ready for you, LH.   ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: DougR
Date: 22 May 08 - 01:44 PM

I am shocked! Cold, LH? Suppose Al Gore is aware of that?

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Bee
Date: 22 May 08 - 01:58 PM

It's still cold, damp, windy and cloudy/foggy/rainy on the Eastern Shore. Damn New Brunswickers keep telling me how warm it is there (wonder why I taunt them when they're buried in six feet of snow and I have bare ground?)

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 22 May 08 - 03:13 PM

Aside from the fac that this may be due in part to the tremendous volcanic outgassing as of late, yes, global warming.
As I understand from several programs and articles:
As the ice up north melts and dilutes the salt water it becomes less dense and stays near the surface instead of sinking as it is supposed to. This means that the driving force behind the Gulf Stream slows causing the Gulf Stream itself to slow. As a result the Gulf of Mexico and the gulf region becomes warmer (one of the reasons they're calling for a busier hurricane season). The other result is that the eastern seaboard stays cooler due to the loss of the gulf stream influence.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Sorcha
Date: 22 May 08 - 03:43 PM

Day before yesterday, 95 F and sunny. Today, 50 F and drizzling rain.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 May 08 - 03:59 PM

Doug, you will be delighted to know that I now think (after recent investigations on the Net) that Al Gore's global warming shtick is not correct at all. I think it's disinformation. There is some global warming occurring, yes, but I don't think it's occurring for the reasons that Al Gore has stated. I think it's occurring due to the cyclical activities of the Sun, therefore it's not humanly caused and we can't do dick-all about it. It's a cyclical thing that has happened before many times and it will pass when the Sun's activities moderate...as has also happened many times before.

To say the above is, of course, utter heresy in a liberal milieu!!! So I can expect some horrified comments from my worthy brothers and sisters here, but I don't give a tiddly about that. ;-)

Now, the weather here. It has improved slightly. Today we're at about 50 degress F. Still unseasonably cold out there but not as bad as the last few days.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 22 May 08 - 06:17 PM

I can understand accepting that it is natural in cause but I think that doing nothing to reduce whatever impact we may be having.

I actually get a laugh out of it from time to time especially since the people who seem to be the biggest detractors also seem to be the ones that don't believe in evolution.

I don't know how they think we're going to adapt to the atmosphere if we continue to spew all of these different materials into it, much less the tons of carbon dioxide.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 May 08 - 08:34 PM

I believe in evolution. ;-) I am not recommending doing nothing to curb harmful emissions. I would be in favour of that in any case, just from the point of view of cleaner air and a healthier atmosphere.

I just don't buy the particular angle that Al Gore is pushing on this one...which is that our industrial civilization caused the global warming. I don't think so. Not any more. The historical and geological evidence of the last 1,000 or so years does not support his theory well at all....and I used to take Al Gore's word on it as gospel.

I have a great website I could direct you to about that...if I could remember where the heck it is! Maybe later.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 22 May 08 - 08:48 PM

The problem is that I am/was a hazmat tech. Every day I get dozens of calls about what's going into our waters and atmosphere. It's not hard to believe that we're having some impact, whether or not we're the major cause.

I just wish that G.W.B. hadn't spent the last eight years prevaricating about it and throwing away taxpayer money first to see if it existed and then to see if we might be the cause. We could've put the money into clean tech development instead.

We used to follow the sulferous soot cloud from Bethlehem Steel to get back into Baltimore harbor when the compass went goofy. It was that bad that you could see it from miles away.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 May 08 - 08:49 PM

Here we go. This might help. Lots of good stuff to read here.

global chilling?

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: DougR
Date: 23 May 08 - 01:11 AM

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh! To think we are on the same page, LH!
Frightening.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 May 08 - 11:42 AM

Yeah, Doug. ;-) Scary, isn't it?

Well, I have GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!! Good weather has finally arrived here in central Ontario! Today is sunny, lovely weather, and WARM! It's the kind of weather one would expect to see on a peaceful Sunday in late May. It may even get hot at this rate by mid-afternoon. AWRIGHT!!!!!!! The dog is rolling around in the fresh grass and contemplating his kingdom with placid good humor. He hopes to find a dead animal carcass soon to roll in. The birdies are chirping in the trees. Paradise.

I am going to spend a lovely day out in the sunshine and count my blessings. Global warming is finally here at last in central Ontario and here (I hope) to stay for a bit.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: pdq
Date: 25 May 08 - 11:53 AM

Thanks for that link, Little Hawk.

I provided that exact source to Mudcat at least two years ago. Nice to see an open mind or two.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 25 May 08 - 04:55 PM

Today is the first really warm day in the last few weeks! I am wondering though if it's not going to go "full on summer heat" though. I need to find a place that has all four seasons in due measure!

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 May 08 - 06:26 PM

Yeah, pdq. One must never allow one's customary "liberal" (or "conservative") habits and credentials to turn into a set of blinders akin to those worn on a Victorian era carriage horse.... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: pdq
Date: 25 May 08 - 07:06 PM

Next, Little Hawk, perhaps you would like to look into the concept of "abiotic" (aka "abiogenic") oil. The Russians were thought to have very little oil reserves after WWII, and yet they are now the third largest producer in the world. They have written at least 1000 scientific articles about the "non-dino" oil concept, but only a handful have been translated into English. They are many important people in the West who don't want to rock the boat. There are the ones who get power and wealth from the concept that the Earth is not making oil anymore.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 May 08 - 07:38 PM

Really? Okay, I'll take a look...

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 26 May 08 - 03:25 AM

Certainly in my part of West Yorkshire the bitter cold east winds are stripping the leaves from the trees, IN MAY ?

eric

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 May 08 - 09:34 AM

It's global chilling, Eric. A very bad business. Don't tell Al Gore.

"We're all gonna DIE!" ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 26 May 08 - 10:34 AM

I've asked that dipshit weatherman on ' Look North ' Paul Hudson to explain it, I'm not holding my breath.

eric

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Folkiedave
Date: 26 May 08 - 11:16 AM

Two cold weekends on the trot - I was camping for both of them - Shepley and Sword Spectacular. Arrrgghhhh!!

Next camping is Gate to Southwell Festival. Let's hope it is a little warmer.

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 26 May 08 - 03:41 PM

It's supposed to get to 85 degrees today and then drop to 65 tomorrow. Will somebody please make up their minds as to what season it's going to be?

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 May 08 - 03:49 PM

Must be the season of the witch...

Subject: RE: BS: We're having a very cold spring here.
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 26 May 08 - 05:43 PM

Most of the witches I know would prefer it stays warm! All the better for running around in the buff around the bonfire!

I lie, they don't go in for the nudity (no matter how much I suggest it) ;)