Tech: Making a CD

Subject: Tech: Making a CD
From: Lurgainn
Date: 04 Jun 08 - 08:12 PM

Got a friend here in the UK. She's made a Cd that she's hoping to sell at gigs. Most of the songs are trad or self penned, but a couple are reasonably well known. They'll be copyrighted.
Whats the best way to approach this.
Is she looking at huge fees to do the songs ?
Just run under the radar and hope for the best ?
Any info / help would be appreciated.
L.

Subject: RE: Tech: Making a CD
From: pavane
Date: 05 Jun 08 - 02:34 AM

Fees are not huge for a small quantity. The studio will usually arrange it with the MCPS. You have to inform them of the songs involved and the number of CD's you intend to burn.

Watch out for the "TRAD" stuff though. Copyright is claimed on a lot of it. (Even HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU is still in copyright).

Subject: RE: Tech: Making a CD
From: mandotim
Date: 05 Jun 08 - 04:32 AM

Fees aren't huge; I paid Bob Dylan £20 for permission to do 'Buckets of Rain' on an album. Not that he needs it...
Tim ;)

Subject: RE: Tech: Making a CD
From: GUEST,Jemma Gurney
Date: 05 Jun 08 - 07:02 AM

Hi

I produced a compilation CD last year ( Forged in Sheffield ) and the MCPS thing is easy to do – the forms are on the mcps website , all you need to do is fill them in and they will check on their database what is copywrited or not. I think this CD of 17 tracks, 500 copies only came to about £50.00.

As it goes, the Folk Expert at the MCPS is none other than a Mr Gordon Potts, ceilidh caller extraordinaire.

Jemma

Subject: RE: Tech: Making a CD
From: Lurgainn
Date: 05 Jun 08 - 06:53 PM

Thanks for the help and info guys.
L.

Subject: RE: Tech: Making a CD
From: mattkeen
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 09:24 AM

Jemma Gurney -
thank you for the very useful links

Subject: RE: Tech: Making a CD
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 12:12 PM

What about parodies? Is the tune still counted as copyright?

Subject: RE: Tech: Making a CD
From: GUEST,Al no cookie
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 01:17 PM

For a small run of CDs, say 1000 or under, I recommend just staying under the radar. Who's going to chase you down for that?
Al

Subject: RE: Tech: Making a CD
From: Barry Finn
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 05:16 PM

Even for a small run of say, 1000 CD's, going under the radar is stealing, don't steal from another artist, they have a right to their creations. Pay no attention to the cookieless hiding behind the curtain.

Barry

Subject: RE: Tech: Making a CD
From: meself
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 06:48 PM

"What about parodies? Is the tune still counted as copyright?"

As a general rule. I recall hearing Robbie Robertson (of The Band) talking about being refused legal permission to record a parody of the old Hank Williams hit Kawliga - said an Aboriginal (him) was being refused permission to record a song by another Aboriginal (Hank Williams) about another Aboriginal (Kawliga).

Subject: RE: Tech: Making a CD
From: Charley Noble
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 08:37 PM

I second what Barry Finn has said. The fees are now excessive for runs of a 1000, generally on the order of $80 US. No one gets rich writing songs for traditional style performers but it's the right thing to do to acknowledge, and pay, for songs that someone has created, or adapted for singing.

Running under the radar only works if you prefer to think of yourself as a pirate, or if you're too lazy to try to contact the composer. Shit sticks to lazy people. It's better to make a good faith effort to credit as many people as you possibly can.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Tech: Making a CD
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 08:44 PM

Typo alert: "The fees are noT excessive" ...

Subject: RE: Tech: Making a CD
From: Jim Lad
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 09:32 PM

In Canada the minimum is something like a run of 300 (under 5 minutes) for around $50.
I'm in the middle of catching up with a bunch of mine.
Feels better.