PRS licence for band

Subject: PRS licence for band
From: Herge
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 11:10 AM

Hi
Do we need a PRS license to play a background CD during braeak in a Ceilidh, or does the hotel licence cover this?

Subject: RE: PRS licence for band
From: Darowyn
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 11:41 AM

The hotel will need PRS and PPL licences.
They should have them.
If not, it's not your problem, unless you play your own CD, in which case they are robbing you of several fractions of a penny (assuming you are registered with the above bodies)!
Cheers
Dave

Subject: RE: PRS licence for band
From: GUEST,Graham Bradshaw
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 07:33 AM

Sorry guys - not that simple! But it never is, is it?

PRS licence is the responsibility of the promoter or venue, ie the person who takes the money for ticket sales.

PPL licence is responsibility of promoter, or venue, or the person playing the CDs.

In my guise as a PA Company, this came up a few years back. When we play CDs in the interval, or as walk in and walk out music, a PPL licence is required. In halls, they normally have one. But in a festival marquee, none exists and someone has to pay for one. Most festivals are paying their PRS levy, and are reluctant to pay for yet another licence. So, I now have to pay a yearly licence, just so I cover myself for those eventualties when there is no venue licence in place.

This also applies to mobile discos and callers that use recorded music.

Be careful, They're out to get you!!

G

Subject: RE: PRS licence for band
From: GUEST,John
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 10:30 AM

Do you need to file returns with PPL Graham? i.e. detailing the actual music played at events, as you have to for PRS.

Subject: RE: PRS licence for band
From: GUEST,Graham Bradshaw
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 10:44 AM

No John. The money goes into a big pot and is paid out on the basis of some convoluted sampling system.

Wearing my other hat as a record company, I do get a bit of money from PPL, mostly for radio plays. I've never seen any money for live plays which are covered by the 100 odd quid a year that I, and thousands of others, have to pay. OK, I know that the cost of analysing it is disproportionate, and to be honest I wouldn't want to send in reports of what I have played. Mostly, I've no idea anyway.

But as with PRS, it is a cosy little club that always looks after the 'big boys' in preference to us lesser mortals.

Thus has it always been!!

G

Subject: RE: PRS licence for band
From: GUEST,John
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 10:56 AM

Thanks Graham. I echo your comments re-PRS.

Subject: RE: PRS licence for band
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 10:59 AM

Why not dispense with the playing of a CD?

When I go to a concert, I always dislike it when the soundman puts on recorded music and makes me listen to his idea of what's good - what he wants to sell.

For one thing, canned music after live is like ketchup after fine chocolate. In other words, the cheap stuff drives away the aftertaste of the excellent stuff.

For another, many people want to socialize at the interval (and before the event). Leave 'em be.

Subject: RE: PRS licence for band
From: Folkiedave
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 01:49 PM

.....soundman - promoting music what he wants to sell.

Never, ever seen a member of the sound staff at a folk festival selling records. Ever. They are usually far too busy. Selling records at a festival is a busy job (you hope) and leaves little time for sound engineering.

Who and where have you seen this? I am sure Graham would be delighted to hear of this extra source of income!!

Subject: RE: PRS licence for band
From: Herge
Date: 18 Jul 08 - 07:48 AM

reply from PRS

"I can confirm that any premises you perform at should have such performances covered by their own PRS licence.

Kind regards,

Dale Meachen Ć Sales Associate Ć Public Performance Sales"