Ta me ag cuartu na bhfocal seo

Subject: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: Áine
Date: 04 Jun 99 - 04:53 PM

A chairde – Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo thíos. Fuair mé iad sa leabhar 'Na Rosa Go Brách' le Fionn Mac Cumhaill (nó Mánas Mac Cumhaill). An bhfuil duine agaibh ar bith ábalta aithint an t-amhrán?

A phlúr na maighdean is úire gné
Fuair cliú le scéimhe ón Ádhamhchlainn
A chúl na bpéarla, a rún na héigse
A dhúblas féile is fáilte
A ghnúis mar ghréin le dúscadh an lae
A mhúchfadh léan le gáire
'Sé mo chumhaidh gan mé . . .

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: Philippa
Date: 04 Jun 99 - 05:08 PM

Mo náire thu, a Áine, ag baint úsaid as generic thread title! Sílim go bhfuil an t-amhrán sin ar cheirnín de chuid Daithí Sproule agus John Kelly. Déanfaidh mé iarracht tuilleadh eolais a fháil.

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: Philippa
Date: 04 Jun 99 - 05:26 PM

Tá mé ag smaoineadh air "Cul Tiubh na bPearlai" ar "Traditional Music of Ireland" (agus ar "Is It Yourself") le James Kelly, Paddy O'Brien, & Daithi Sproule. Shanachie SH 34014
Can anyone listen to this album and see if the words of Cul Tiubh na bPearlai match those given by Áine? The tune would suit them all right.

Subject: Úr-Chnoc Chéin Mhic Cáinte
From: Philippa
Date: 04 Jun 99 - 05:49 PM

It's the famous Úr-Chnoc Chéin Mhic Cáinte !

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: Annraoi
Date: 04 Jun 99 - 09:45 PM

Tut, tut, a Philippa, Cá bhfuil an chuid eile de shaothar Uí Dhoirnín ? Annraoi

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: Philippa
Date: 05 Jun 99 - 06:06 AM

I think you'll have to look in books, Annraoi. The site only gives one Ó Doirnín poem. The biographical info. (i mBearla) is here: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1813/peadar.htm If I find a better site, I'll return with the details.

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: Philippa
Date: 05 Jun 99 - 06:36 AM

Tá "Mná na hÉireann", amhrán eile le Peadar Ó Dóirnín, le fáil ag leathanacha idirlín eile. Perhaps I'll add a thread for that song sometime soon; Michael Davitt made a translation.

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: Áine
Date: 07 Jun 99 - 08:17 AM

A Phillipa,

Go raibh míle maith agat! Nach an-ghlic an chailín thú! Agus gabh mo leithscéal fán 'generic thread title' – ach cad é a bheinn a dhéanamh, mar ní raibh a fhios agam ar an tideal? -- Áine

Subject: Lyr Add: ÚR-CHNOC CHÉIN MHIC CÁINTE (O Doirnin)
From: Philippa
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 10:46 AM

1)Below are the lyrics copied from the website for which you'll find links above.
2. I finally listened to the recording of "Cúl Tiubh na bPéarlaí" as sung by Daithi Sproule. Both the words and the air are completely different to Úr-Chnoc Chéin Mhic Cáinte. The lyrics are in Einrí O Muigheasa: "Dhá Chéad de Cheoltaibh Uladh"; perhaps I'll type them out some time. My memory was playing tricks with me when I first saw Aine's request, because the tune I tried her words too was the tune of Úr-Chnoc..., but I thought it was the tune of Cúl Tiubh...
3. I did submit "Mná na hEireann"; it's in another thread.

Úr-Chnoc Chéin Mhic Cáinte (Peadar O Doirnin)

A phlúr na maighdean is úire gné,
Fuair clú le scéimh ón Ádhamhchlainn,
A chúl na bpéarla, a rún na héigse,
'Dhúbhlas féile 's fáilte;
A ghnúis mar ghréin le dúsach a' lae,
'Sé mo chumha gan mé 's tú, a shiúr, linn féin,
Sa dún sin Chéin Mhic Cáinte.

Táim brúite i bpéin, gan suan, gan néal
De do chumha, a ghéag is áille;
'S gur tú mo roghain i gcúigibh Éireann
A' chúis nach séanaim ás de;
Dá siúlfá, a réalt gan smúid, liom féin,
Ba súgach saor ár sláinte
Gheofá plúr is méad is cnuasach craobh
Sa dún sin Chéin Mhic Cáinte.

A chiúin-bhean tséimh na gcuachann péarlach,
Gluais liom féin ar ball beag,
Nuair bheas uaisle is cléir is tuataí i néal
In a suan faoi éadaí bána;
Ó thuaidh go mbéam i bhfad uafa araon
Teacht nua-chruth gréine amárach
Gan duais linn féin in uaigneas aerach
San uaimh sin Chéin Mhic Cáinte.

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 11:17 AM

oh, it's Gaelic, that's why I couldn't read it: I though my bhfocals were misted up!

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 11:22 AM

Should have read: Oh, it's Gaelic, that's why I couldn't read it: I though my bhfocals were misted up!
[Sorry, Joe, missed out the / before!]

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: Annraoi
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 03:24 PM

a Philippa, An bhfuil cúpla ceathramhin fágtha ar lár agat ? Annraoi

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: Annraoi
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 03:27 PM

Gabh mo leithscéal. Bhí mé ró-ghasta. Ní fonn traidisiúnta atá leis na foclaí ach guth a chum Peadar Ó Dubhda mar bhí sé dubh-dóite leis an ghuth sheanchaite a chuirtí leis an dán. Annraoi

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 11:30 PM

Thanks to Alison, you can find the air at the Mudcat midi collection

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: alison
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 11:51 PM

glad you can find these threads Philippa....... I can never get the spelling right when I do searches...... but all of the last batch of tunes you sent went onto Mudcat MIDIs a few months back now.... Thanks

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: GUEST,Neil Comer
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 12:20 PM

Philippa, Dúirt tú ansin gur chum Peadar Ó Doirnín amhrán arb ainm dó, Mná na hÉireann. Cá bhfuair tú an t-eolas seo?

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 07:17 PM

Niall, I don't remember where I first learned that Ó Doirnín composed "Mná na hÉireann", but you could try one of the anthologies cited in the Mná na hÉireann thread.

I just did a quick web search and found references to authorship in Kate Bush and Sinead O'Connor

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: Magpie
Date: 16 Feb 00 - 06:49 PM

Ja det har du helt sikkert rett i! Jeg for min del pleier å holde meg til engelsk når jeg beveger meg i Cyber space.

Skjora/Magpie

Subject: Úr-Chnoc Chéin Mhic Cáinte
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 21 May 00 - 04:28 AM

It seems my memory was not so bad concerning Daithí Sproule; I HAD heard him sing Úr-Chnoc Chéin Mhic Cáinte , but not on the recording I have at home. I heard him sing the song again today as Áine Hensey played the recording on Béal Maidine on Radio na Gaeltachta. Perhaps you can hear this on the internet? It was at the end of the first hour of the programme, near 8 am local summer time.

Magpie, we mostly use English for out internet discussions, but it's nice to see some other languages too. Some threads which might interest you include Scandinavian sites
Any Norwegians
Irländsk festival

Subject: RE: Tá mé ag cuartú na bhfocal seo
From: GUEST
Date: 21 May 00 - 04:30 AM

Irländsk festival

Subject: Cul Tiubh na bPearlai
From: GUEST,Kaihl
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 01:20 AM

Hello! I was wondering if anyone knew the lyrics to Cul Tiubh na bPearlai performed by Daithi Sproule. I think it is a beautiful song, and would like the lyrics. I don't speak or read Gaelic yet, but I would much appreciate it if you could give me the lyrics in Gaelic and in English for future use.

Much thanks!

Subject: RE: Ta me ag cuartu na bhfocal seo
From: ciarili
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 11:16 PM

kaihl, i'll post the words in a separate thread, because for the life of me i can't find them in the dt. i did several searches, & i am so certain they're there....

Subject: RE: Ta me ag cuartu na bhfocal seo
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 21 Mar 05 - 12:09 AM

Of course they are there. See thread Lyr Add: CUL TIUBH NA BPEARLAI

I found it in a few seconds. Perhaps you were unlucky.

Subject: RE: Ta me ag cuartu na bhfocal seo
From: ciarili
Date: 21 Mar 05 - 11:57 AM

yes, unlucky i am. i tried it again this morning with the same results. it gives me 'no results in digitrad' & pulls up this thread & one other in which the title is mentioned.

blah.