BS: Thought for the Day- August 26

Subject: BS: Thought for the Day- August 26
From: Peter T.
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 06:48 AM

"Surely the Creator of thought is subtler than thought." - Jalal al-Din Rumi.

(The refutation of theology in one sentence)

Subject: RE: BS: Thought for the Day- August 26
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 03:28 PM

Peter, looks like the response here is 'duh'

Subject: RE: BS: Thought for the Day- August 26
From: GUEST,Jack The Sailor
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 03:35 PM

It doesn't refute theology. It is posits that Creation defies easy description.

As with most metaphysics, it is quite open to individual interpretation.

Subject: RE: BS: Thought for the Day- August 26
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 03:43 PM

Then what does "I think, therefore I am" mean?**bg**

Subject: RE: BS: Thought for the Day- August 26
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 04:36 PM

Considering that thought thought he had broken wind but had actually excreted... the thought must be... for the day... well I hope it isn't me LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Thought for the Day- August 26
From: John O'L
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 10:19 PM

I think it's one of those Dylan-esque lines that seems to mean so much and actualy means very little.   

As always however, thought-provoking.

Subject: RE: BS: Thought for the Day- August 26
From: Amos
Date: 27 Aug 08 - 12:02 AM

"I think, therefore I am", as commonly construed, means the philosopher was one orde rof magnitude shallower than Rumi.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thought for the Day- August 26
From: lady penelope
Date: 27 Aug 08 - 02:14 PM

"I think therefore I am" is the start of a chain of logic. The premise starts with - if I am thinking/cogitating there must be something in existense to do it. It is meerly a starting point, nothing else.

As for the orignal post's quote, this just gives me the willies. It harks back to the idea of supreme beings deliberately making inferior beings for obscure reasons....

Subject: RE: BS: Thought for the Day- August 26
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Aug 08 - 02:16 PM

My tongue was in my cheek, folks.:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Thought for the Day- August 26
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Aug 08 - 09:12 PM

"I think therefore I am" has been long used by Equestrian trainers to remind them of certain training methods. Although its memory is short for some things, horses are very intelligent and behaviors once learned become almost a habit overnight.

Horses can learn through rigorous training just how far jumps are apart or the post marker distances. This is due to the fact that horses can get an elemental feeling for math. They can learn voice commands in several languages showing solid communication understanding.

What is most important overall is to know that horses must learn all of this by repetition as they themselves have no understanding of the philosophy involved in the training. Its wise to remember that you can't put Descartes before the horse.












































I'll just be leaving.......................

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Thought for the Day- August 26
From: Peter T.
Date: 27 Aug 08 - 09:44 PM

Glaah.

yours,

Peter T.

Subject: RE: BS: Thought for the Day- August 26
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Aug 08 - 11:37 PM

Oh ye of infinite punnery!