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Dogs at Festival

strad 16 Sep 08 - 12:00 PM
GUEST,baz parkes 16 Sep 08 - 12:28 PM
Folkiedave 16 Sep 08 - 01:45 PM
Banjiman 16 Sep 08 - 02:22 PM
wysiwyg 16 Sep 08 - 02:27 PM
Scooby Doo 16 Sep 08 - 03:04 PM
Blowzabella 16 Sep 08 - 03:38 PM
fiddler 16 Sep 08 - 05:06 PM
GUEST,not a do owner 16 Sep 08 - 06:35 PM
Folkiedave 16 Sep 08 - 07:02 PM
The Fooles Troupe 16 Sep 08 - 07:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Dogs at Festival
From: strad
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 12:00 PM

Like some dogs - don't like some dogs - hate all midges..BAN THEM!!


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Subject: RE: Dogs at Festival
From: GUEST,baz parkes
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 12:28 PM

Dave...your comments on Bromyard reminded me it was actually the second festival I ever went to.

I had my 3 front teeth knocked put by some drunk wielding a wheel brace (not sure if he was tattooed Paul:-)). This didn't put me off festivals, especially Bromyard, or drunks or wheelbraces.

I think I know why I'm posting this,but...

Baz


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Subject: RE: Dogs at Festival
From: Folkiedave
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 01:45 PM

Massive restrictions on dog owners? There are already massive restrictions on dog owners - some of which dog owners ignore. I didn't go to the ceilidh tent at Bromyard so I can't comment but I certainly never saw a dog in the main marquee.

So dog owners accepted restrictions at Bromyard. They also don't take them into restaurants - except some places of course who don't see this as a problem - which is most restaurants as I am sure you are aware. I have never seen a dog in a cinema, theatre, supermarket or a hospital or classical music concert. Large numbers of hotels don't allow dogs and you have to keep them outside school gates.

So the idea that dog owners have some kind of freedom to act as they wish with their dogs without restriction and that asking them to leave them at home for a folk festival is some kind of big new deal is patent nonsense. As some dog owners on this thread have attested they would never dream of taking a dog to a festival.

I have yet to discover why a dog is a nuisance inside a tent and thus barred and not outside a tent.

And unfortunately Baz and you have my sympathy, it is impossible to bar drunks from folk festivals - much as it is to bar them from anywhere else. But it is possible (easily) to bar dogs.


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Subject: RE: Dogs at Festival
From: Banjiman
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 02:22 PM

....but you could ban alcohol (as they do at a lot of Bluegrass festivals in the States I understand) as there is a risk that someone might drink too much and hurt someone!

A greater risk than a dog hurting someone I'd dare say.

Or we could just live and let live?

Paul


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Subject: RE: Dogs at Festival
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 02:27 PM

I have not read the whole thread. I did read the first post. It toiok me awhile to condense my thgouhts, and I hope it's not too late to share a possibly-cogent thought.

My first reaction was, why don't campground rules cover this? At US campgrounds, there is no exception to the rule that dogs must be short-leashed whenever they are outside the RV, tent, or cabin. They can't be left unattended (tied out or in the campsite), either. Campground personnel can evict an owner who does not observe this, or any owner whose dog is not under control, or campers whose dogs bark excessively or violate the quiet-after-bedtime rules. I believe proof of rabies vaccination is required at registration.

Can't that just be Festival Policy and enforced by stewards?

~S~


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Subject: RE: Dogs at Festival
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 03:04 PM

Why should stewards do a dog enforcement notice.It should be the festival organiser like Sandra who started this thread.


Scooby.


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Subject: RE: Dogs at Festival
From: Blowzabella
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 03:38 PM

Personally I find all drunks and most children much more of a nuisance than some dogs. I can't do html, so can't embolden any of my text but iff I say ALL drunks, MOST children, SOME dogs .... you get the general order of my own annoyances. Why should my annoyances be of any less import than ... say ... Dave's??


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Subject: RE: Dogs at Festival
From: fiddler
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 05:06 PM

As a dog owner

No dogs no me

dog allowed - keep them under control

Clear upo after them if they disgrace you.

End of story

No controversy just plain logic and consideration for your folking buddies.

Is there really any other route.

Heavens mine spent a week backstage at the aham and everyone nejoyed h is company. I hope.

Andy


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Subject: RE: Dogs at Festival
From: GUEST,not a do owner
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 06:35 PM

sensible suggestion from Wysiwig there I thought.

Scooby - why shouldn't stewards enforce the rules for dog owners same as all other rules, whatever the festival decides they are? at most festivals it would be a stewards job to ask somebody to stop making noise in the middle of the night, for example. If somebody is such a nuisance that they are asked to leave the festival, it often does become an issue for festival directors to step in but warnings etc usually come from the stewards at first.


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Subject: RE: Dogs at Festival
From: Folkiedave
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 07:02 PM

As a dog owner. No dogs no me

I think that is an attitude to be applauded.

Clearly the dog means more to you than the festival and that is your choice.

As far as children and their behaviour is concerned festivals do make special arrangements for them. At Bromyard for example it was Jan and Dr. Sunshine.

And I have never been bitten by a child (at a festival or elsewhere) I have been bitten by a dog, and the thread was started because of a dog biting a child at a festival. Of course children can be annoying - none more than my own two daughters when they went through the teen years. We tried hard to stop them annoying people, and then stopped taking them to festivals as soon as we could.

One became a festival organiser.


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Subject: RE: Dogs at Festival
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 07:11 PM

Over 400 posts.

Has this thread gone to the dogs?


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