The US Election

Subject: RE: The US Election
From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Nov 08 - 10:37 AM

Last night on television they ran a panel made up of five men and a moderator (believe me, they commented on the fact that there were no women present. The moderator said that the schedule had not fit any woman but Dean said that was inexcusable)

Here is a Summary of those participating:

A panelists (sic) who worked for various 2008 presidential campaigns discussed what strategies worked, what lessons were learned, and how the winner prevailed. Kenneth Walsh moderated.

Cornell Belcher was a pollster for the Barack Obama campaign,
Frank Donatelli was a senior adviser to the John McCain campaign, Geoffrey Garin was a pollster and strategist for the Hillary Clinton campaign, and
Kevin Madden was national press secretary and senior communications specialist for the Mitt Romney campaign.

(http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=282377-1)

It was interesting, to say the least. They were polite to each other but they also punched. I love Howard Dean. Not to mention, Cornell Belcher!

Subject: RE: The US Election
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Nov 08 - 03:36 PM

To be fair, I have seen a couple of panels where there were 3-4 women and no men. Hadn't thought much about it till now. The salient point is, there ARE plenty of women reporters, pundits, politicians etc. now and we are seeing more of them. I no longer worry about the makeup of any one group....unless it 'feels' obviously loaded and unbalanced.

Subject: RE: The US Election
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 18 Nov 08 - 08:05 PM

""Thanks, McGrath. I think a woman could manage the job, too,""

Sorry Kat, just realised I gave an unintended impression.

The kind of balls I was talking about are not an exclusively male trait, in fact not necessarily even a PREDOMINANTLY male trait.

There are plenty of women who could do as good a job as any man, and IMHO there are NO women who couldn't do better than Geedubya, except possibly Palin, and that would be a CLOSE race.

Don T.

Subject: RE: The US Election
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Nov 08 - 08:41 PM

If there wasn't any way out of having one of that pair, I think I'd opt for Palin.

Subject: RE: The US Election
From: Don Firth
Date: 18 Nov 08 - 08:53 PM

Well, I dunno, Kevin. George W. is crafty, but he's not what could be called smart. No really well-formed personal philosophy other that a collection of clichés, and his main asset to the neo-cons was that he would do what he was told. He didn't really have an agenda of his own.

Palin, on the other hand, is smart. And her personal philosophy is right in line with the neo-cons and with the extreme religious right. And she definitely has an agenda.

If I had to chose one or the other as the lesser of two evils (which, thank God, I don't!) I might just have to opt for George.

'Scuse me a moment. I think I'm gonna be sick!

Don Firth

P. S. And this, by the way, has nothing to do with gender. Strictly which one of them would be more dangerous.

Subject: RE: The US Election
From: Amos
Date: 18 Nov 08 - 08:58 PM

One reason for making that awful choice is that he has already caused the deaths of hundreds/thousands of people and probably would less enthusiastic about doing so a second time that one like Ms P whose dath toll is limited to wolves, moose and other desperate critturs of the wild. Plus pulling the wings off of flies.


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Subject: RE: The US Election
From: Riginslinger
Date: 18 Nov 08 - 09:17 PM

It can all be traced back to substance abuse!

Subject: RE: The US Election
From: Amos
Date: 18 Nov 08 - 09:43 PM

What substance abuse was Ms Palin's preferred variety? Ice-crystals with oxygen?



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Subject: RE: The US Election
From: Riginslinger
Date: 19 Nov 08 - 06:53 AM

Christianity

Subject: RE: The US Election
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Nov 08 - 08:38 AM

The consequences of either W or Palin would both be the same in the long run because they both have the same crew pulling their strings (the right wing dominionist Christian crowd and the oil companies).

Subject: RE: The US Election
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Nov 08 - 09:59 AM

DonT, I was pretty sure you weren't one of them! **bg** Thanks for the clarification, though.