BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Mr Red
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 07:12 AM

and the reason an Australian haircut costs 4 dollars?

And why no "difference between a yoghurt & Australia" jokes?























as told to me in New Zealand.
dollar per corner and one has a living culture.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 04:03 AM

we have become the victims of the politically correct brigade

Get a friggin' grip, ya whinging pom!

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 03:36 AM

I am thinking of starting up an anti Jew thread. Anyone up for it?

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 02:34 AM

Ewan MacColl recalled how his father was deported back to England from Australia and said " let's face it, that's an acheivement "

eric

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: nager
Date: 22 Dec 08 - 10:20 PM

A young man decided to emigrate from Britain to Australia against the wishes of his parents who warned him "that's where all the criminals are sent". After a couple of successful years in Oz he married a delightful young Australian woman. Shortly after the wedding he asked her if she would like to visit Britain to meet his family. "No bloody way," she said. " I've heard that place has too many criminals."

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Cllr
Date: 22 Dec 08 - 06:50 PM

from random website

From Rosemary Wetherall: "Is pom short for Port of Melbourne (where the ships docked), Prisoners Of her Majesty, as they were convict ships, or did we all really look like a cargo of pomegranates when we caught the sun? Or is it simply rhyming slang for immigrant?"

[A] You've done a great job of listing many of the explanations that one comes across for the origin of this Australian term for British immigrants. You could have added a possible derivation from Prisoner of Mother England, from the common naval slang term for Portsmouth, Pompey, or from pommes de terres for potatoes, much eaten by British troops in World War One, or an abbreviation for Permit of Migration. All of them except your last two, I have to tell you, are folk etymology (which, for some reason I've never understood, loves to invent origins based on acronyms).

Part of the reason for all these theories growing up is that there was for decades much doubt over the true origin of the expression, with various Oxford dictionaries, for example, continuing to say that there is no firm evidence for the pomegranate theory. That origin was described by D H Lawrence in his Kangaroo of 1923: "Pommy is supposed to be short for pomegranate. Pomegranate, pronounced invariably pommygranate, is a near enough rhyme to immigrant, in a naturally rhyming country. Furthermore, immigrants are known in their first months, before their blood 'thins down', by their round and ruddy cheeks. So we are told". You will note that he had to explain the pronunciation that we would now take to be the usual one: in standard English it used not to have the first "e" sounded, with pome often rhyming with home.

It is now pretty well accepted that the pomegranate theory is close to the truth, though there's a slight twist to take note of. H J Rumsey wrote about it in 1920 in the introduction to his book The Pommies, or New Chums in Australia. He suggested that the word began life on the wharves in Melbourne as a form of rhyming slang. An immigrant was at first called a Jimmy Grant (was there perhaps a famous real person by that name around at the time?), but over time this shifted to Pommy Grant, perhaps as a reference to pomegranate, because the new chums did burn in the sun. Later pommy became a word on its own and was frequently abbreviated still further. The pomegranate theory was also given some years earlier in The Anzac Book of 1916.

Whatever your beliefs about this one, what seems to be true is that the term is not especially old, dating from the end of the nineteenth century at the earliest, certainly not so far back as convict ship days.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Cllr
Date: 22 Dec 08 - 06:50 PM

i thought Everyone knows "pom" is an abreviation of whinging pommie ba****D who cant find the soap.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Rasener
Date: 22 Dec 08 - 06:02 PM

Goatfell
Why is it when we English crack jokes about the Scots, Irish or Welsh, we are considered as rascist.

But you can post what you like about the English and get away with it.

I remember posting jokes about the Welsh on a forum (in humour), becuase the guy was going on about how good the Welsh were at rugby and they would beat England. as it was, Wales got hammered. Soo I posted a load of sheep jokes LOL. Hwoever I got a bollocking for being rascist. what a load of bollocks.

Another time something cropped up about the Irish, so in good humour I posted a few Irish jokes and got accused of being rascist and had my post removed.

I happen to think that jokes are great no matter who the nation is. I have found the jokes above hilarious and in no way rascist towards the English.

Unfortunately we have become the victims of the politically correct brigade, who have taken the stuffing out of all forms of life almost to the point we daren't fart anymore. These PC prats wouldn't know what rascism is, they are so far up their arses.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: GUEST,Declan Saunders
Date: 22 Dec 08 - 05:01 PM

'Pom' comes from 'POHM'-Prisoner Of His (or Her) Majesty, ie, jailbirds from Britain, which DOES include the Scots, Welsh & Irish. I always fall over laughing when the Ozzies call us Brits. They don't seem to realise that they're all descended from the lowlife!!

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: nager
Date: 21 Dec 08 - 07:50 PM

An Englishman went to a brain surgeon because he wanted to be turned into an American. "To do that I need to remove about 25 per cent of your brain," said the surgeon. The Englishman agreed. After the operation the surgeon confessed to the patient that he had mistakenley cut out 50 per cent of his brain.
"No worries, she's right mate," the patient said...

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: fumblefingers
Date: 21 Dec 08 - 12:44 AM

Hrothgar

"Sign at entrance to lion park:
Admission $5
Children $2
Pommies on bicycles admitted free."

I actually saw that sign at a wildlife park north of Perth, WA. Maybe it's a requirement under Aussie law.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Amergin
Date: 20 Dec 08 - 04:11 PM

Christ, Goatfell, you're whinging is only pointing the truth about some of these jokes.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 20 Dec 08 - 09:17 AM

Bloody descendants of criminals that's all the Ozzies are.

eric

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 11:04 AM

It's not about who you think the Poms are, it's about who the Aussies think the Poms are. If they say Poms include Jocks then that's it, you're included in the jokes about whinging immigrants, where best to hide your valuables (under the soap) etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: goatfell
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 10:54 AM

I feel really jeslous about Austrlia, im mean u=nlike you lot we have to live next door to them, and yet you Aussies are thousands ofm iles away from them, think yourselves lucky

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: goatfell
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 10:53 AM

GUEST,jungleclown - PM
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 05:07 AM

If a male and a female pommie jump off a cliff at the same time, who will hit the ground first?
Who gives a shit..........

Why do all the tree's in France lean towards England? Because England Sucks.....

Why do pigeons fly upside down over England? Because England aint worth shitting on......

If all the English were to leave australia and swim back home it will increase the IQ of both countries.......

and then you wonder why I say the poms are English and yet you lot say it's not the explain this please I thought is was a bout Britian some of you will say but it is about England and the English, not Scotland,Wales or Ireland is it.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: GUEST,jungleclown
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 05:07 AM

If a male and a female pommie jump off a cliff at the same time, who will hit the ground first?
Who gives a shit..........

Why do all the tree's in France lean towards England? Because England Sucks.....

Why do pigeons fly upside down over England? Because England aint worth shitting on......

If all the English were to leave australia and swim back home it will increase the IQ of both countries.......

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Hrothgar
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 06:00 PM

How do you know the aircraft on the tarmac has come from England?

The whining doesn't stop when they turn off the engines.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Hrothgar
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 05:59 PM

Sign at entrance to lion park:

Admission $5
Children $2

Pommies on bicycles admitted free.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: skipy
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 03:15 PM

"there so much BO about, that cinema audiences had to be sprayed with perfume."
Since the smoking ban most night clubs have started spraying again!
Skipy
(don't even bother to go there!)

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 06:36 AM

The William Jarman I'm referring to was English, born in 1820 at Gravesend.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 06:31 AM

No this man was English......

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 05:31 AM

Georgiansilver - would the Jarman you refer to be the William Jarman who eventually settled in the Olympic Peninsula of Washington State? If so, he was hardly an historian in the accepted sense of the term. He was rather like 'Buffalo Bill', much given to creating his own mythology. Given the lack of real evidence, e.g. photos, surviving smocks, or offical documents from the period using the the 'P.O.H.M', I suspect it's alleged origins is one of those apocryphal stories, rather like 'posh' supposedly meaning 'port outwards, starboard home.'

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 04:35 AM

The wisdom according to Barry McKenzie, ' sheilas come accross if bastards say they love them '

eric

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 03:03 AM

Jarmans History from 1846 declares that POHMs were 'Prisoners Of His Majesty' and that POHM was printed onto the backs of the smocks that prisoners were transported in... I did say that before I know but the point I want to make is that no-one seems to know for sure if it is to do with pomegranates.....prisoners of mother England or prisoners of His Majesty. Different sources obviously state different theories.
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Bert
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 11:44 PM

The English tell jokes about the Irish.
Australians tell jokes about the English.
Americans tell jokes about the Polish.
Canadians tell jokes about Newfies.
Texans tell true stories about Aggies. (and they're all the same stories.)

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Gurney
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 09:58 PM

I once read a book -well, haven't you?- which recorded an Oz cockie watching an immigrant ship coming in, and saying "Another load of Pomeranians!"

Pomeranian: A breed of small, yapping dog. Abbreviation Pom.

Goatfell, would you run your post of 12:55 past us again, please?

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 07:42 PM

Goatfell - does it not occur to you that even if an Australian dictionary says 'pom' means 'prisoner of mother England', it doesn't mean it's true. The dictionary presumably doesn't provide any evidence to support the statement whereas you, in your post from Wikipedia, have shown that there is no visual or documentary evidence for it. You just want to believe it because you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about anything English.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 04:26 PM

Bubblyrat - I have that book - fascinating, isn't it! Made more poignant for me because I now live only a mile or so from the stretch of the Thames (Gallions Reach) where that ship moored. It still stinks down there, but that's now because of the sewage works, but it's possible to imagine what it would have been like back then.

In Dorset, there is a bridge, leading into the county town of Dorchester, that has an iron plaque on it. This plaque states that anyone found wilfully damaging the bridge will be subject to transportation for life.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: GUEST,goatfell
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 03:04 PM

I'm sorry but I wish people would read books from Austrlia, because I ahve an Austrlaian dicanty (spelling) and it tells you all about the word pom and what it means and stands for.

But that's just me

A Scot and NOT A POM

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: GUEST,goatfell
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 03:01 PM

From British Naval records the term "Pommie" came about from the red "pom pom" on the top of the hats of British sailors who were involved in the transfer of prisoners to the Colonies. It was used as a derogatory term, but has since become a generalised term for British people. The term pommy or pom is commonly used by speakers of Australian English, New Zealand English, South African English and Afrikaans. It is often shortened to pom. The origin of this term is not confirmed and there are several persistent false etymologies, most being backronyms, an example of which would be P.O.M.E, Prisoner Of Mother England. The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) strongly supports the theory that pommy originated as a contraction of "pomegranate".[2] The OED also suggests that the reason for this is that pomegranate is extinct Australian rhyming slang for immigrant; it cites an article from 14 November 1912, in a once-prominent Australian weekly magazine The Bulletin: "The other day a Pummy Grant (assisted immigrant) was handed a bridle and told to catch a horse." A popular alternative explanation for the theory that pommy is a contraction of "pomegranate", relates to the purported frequency of sunburn among British people in Australia, turning their fair skin the colour of pomegranates.[3] However, there is no hard evidence for the theory regarding sunburn.

A false etymology (or "backronym") common in both Australia and New Zealand is that pom originated as an acronym for "prisoner of (his/her) majesty" or "prisoner of mother England". Although many of the first British settlers in Australia were convicts sentenced to transportation to Australia, there is no evidence for this. Some proponents of this theory claim that upon arrival in the country they would be given a uniform with "POHM" or "POME" emblazoned on the back, which apparently stood for Prisoners Of Her Majesty but there are no images or examples of these uniforms.In addition, it is used to mean 'Product of Mother England'.

this is from the wikapea

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: bubblyrat
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 02:02 PM

I have always subscribed to the theory that "Pom" came from the issue of pomegranate juice to British sailors,as an anti-scurvy measure, when Lime Juice ( whence "Limey" ) was not readily available.I recently read a very good book "The Floating Brothel",which is a true story about convicts,both male and female,being taken to Australian Penal Colonies,and there is no mention of convict uniforms,and certainly no suggestion of any identifying letters on coats saying "Prisoner of Mother England".There was no need,because anyone found on their own more than a mile from the colony was OBVIOUSLY a prisoner,as nobody else was stupid enough to stray that far !!( In those days ,it was a VERY hostile environment,and the Aborigines killed people !).

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: GUEST,goatfell
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 12:55 PM

I like people that is stright to the point, were as people who are PC you can't really trust them

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Dead Horse
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 12:25 PM

I detest racist, sexist, blonde, or any non pc jokes.
So,
What does a blonde Aussie Sheila put behind her ears to attract men?




Her knees.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 11:56 AM

I am very against stereotyping of any description, even in comedy, but some is either so harmless or so ludicrous that it cannot be taken seriously.

An Aussie a Scotsman and and Englishman sunbathing by the pool are informed by a genie that he has just created a magic slide. Whatever they shout as the go down the slide, the pool will be turned into,

The Aussie goes first with a loud cry of "Fosters!"

Behind him is the Scotsman shouting "Whisky!"

The English cannot make his mind but on his way down the slide gets all excited.

"Wheeeeee...."

DeG

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Moses
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 10:34 AM

Q:- Why are there kangaroos in Australia and Englishmen in England?

A:- Cos the Aussies got first choice.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: goatfell
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 09:41 AM

Well whenever I'm Australia, I'm always asked about things in ENGLAND, and I tell them I don't know because I come from Scotland, then I say to them how is life in NEW ZEALAND, they don't like that and I say well that is the same with anyone form Scotland, Ireland or Wales or Cornwall. Isle of Man or the Channel Islands.

as we say to people for England and the come up to Scotland

WELCOME TO BRITAIN

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: goatfell
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 09:38 AM

oh one final thing, I'm Scottish first British second

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: goatfell
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 09:37 AM

well that is what I was told

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: goatfell
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 09:34 AM

poms means P= Prisoners of M= Mother E= England

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 09:19 AM

What do you call someone from New Zealand?
A civilized Australian.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 08:58 AM

You need to get out more Al

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 08:57 AM

Where on earth does Goatfell get the idea that the term 'Pom' refers only to the English? Wikipedia is often less than accurate but its piece on the word's origins and meaning looks pretty reasonable to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 08:53 AM

Goatfell - try and be serious! now do you know any jokes, or don't you?

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: goatfell
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 08:30 AM

someone who needs a life, and can't take jokes is Ebbie, but this people that belive in ppolitcal correctness, but thease people are the most racists, sexists and other words that end ist are.

So as I say get a life, I know about the post about what I wrote about the Poms, but I take that as a joke, if you take life to serious, then as I say GET A LIFE

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 06:36 AM

Comrac, this isn't a joke, it's true, it was ced2 and me.

eric

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: GUEST,Comrac
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 06:34 AM

Two Englishmen made it to a desert island after their plane went down. They lived there for six years before being rescued. Asked why they never spoke to eachother, one answered "No one introduced us".

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 05:27 AM

The moral of this thread is....You should never make fun at the expense of someone else, especially if they are English or Scottish.(I add that as I am english-scots.)

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 05:02 AM

One version is pom <- pomegranate <- pomegran't <- immigrant. Back in the 20s, which I'm told is first mention of the term, immigrants were nearly all from the UK.

They had historical good reason to be resentful of the British state. Up above, I've been posting odd snippets from old newspapers I found on- line. Steal a lamb? 15 years transportation, a large family left destitute (they probably were before). 12 y-o girl and 8-y-o boy, 15 years each for setting fire to a haystack. The one thing I haven't seen transportation for (yet) is poaching.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Cluin
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 03:59 AM

What'd the Englishman say when he came home and found three men in bed with his wife?

"Hello, hello, hello."