BS: Boys Will Be Girls

Subject: BS: Boys Will Be Girls
From: bobad
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 07:11 PM

It could be the brunt of humour if it wasn't so dire. The results of over 250 scientific studies reveal that males of numerous vertebrate species, including humans, are becoming feminized as a result of exposure to thousands of unregulated chemicals released into the environment in recent years. It doesn't look good guys.

Story here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/its-official-men-really-are-the-weaker-sex-1055688.html

Subject: RE: BS: Boys Will Be Girls
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 08:38 PM

The effects of pollutants on sexual development has been noted by numerous researchers for at least a decade or two. The only obvious evidence that the effect is more common, or more severe, is the increasing frequency and weight of such reports.

(Note that it's unlikely that better funding for research of this kind is behind the increase in studies, because those who have been in charge of such funding KNOW THAT IT'S ALL A MATTER OF CHOICE WITH NO BIOLOGICAL BASIS.)¹

If pollutants aren't enough to worry you, a recent MSNBC article gives fairly strong arguments (mostly reiterating decades of similar ones) that the consistent/excessive use of soy-based food products can have a similar "feminizing" effect.

Soy products are commonly advocated by herbalists for perimenopausal women, since most such foods contain "estrogen precursors" that supposedly can augment declining estrogen production in women "withdrawing" from levels common when they were "younger." It might be presumed that consumption by males, espectially during adolescent and pre-adolescent development, could diminish the effectiveness of naturally arising androgens responsible for the full development of "maleness."

Some similar sources advocate the use of the natural herb fenugreek (trigonella foenum-graecum) as an aid to lactation in nursing mothers, and it has been warned that excessive exposure can sometimes induce lactation (and/or premature "man boobs") in adolescent or young adult males. (I'm told it's also effective against excessive flatulence.)

¹ Recent Cheney government sponsered research emphatically refutes the contention that the sudden rise in five-legged frogs in the southeastern US has anything to do with "sex hormones."

John

Subject: RE: BS: Boys Will Be Girls
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 08:50 PM

There are none so blind as those who will not see...

It's been happening and has been documented as happening for decades now.... and yet still no-one wants to admit to it. But it does explain a great deal about certain colleagues in my office.. :D

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Boys Will Be Girls
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 09:04 PM

Some think that this will be a good thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Boys Will Be Girls
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 09:25 PM

I find it difficult to get too excited (by the cited report) since at my age most of the women look like little old men and the most of the men look like old ladies. (There are exceptions, of course.)

I suppose the "little kids" like my doctor and my lawyer and the cops on the beat - who mostly look like they're too young to have "secondary sexual characteristics" - probably have reason for concern; and of course anyone currently in "breeding mode" might worry about their children.

A similar level of concern probably should be present for the proliferation of "antibiotic runoff" that appears to strongly influence the development of resistant agents of infection.

Too many things do get flushed down the drain, buried in the landfills, or spilled in the barnyard and on the crops.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Boys Will Be Girls
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 10:04 PM

The NY Times today (Dec. 7) has a slide show about 'Muxes', men who live as women, in the town of Juchitan, Mexico. They are accepted, as they are in several indigenous (American Indian) groups. Juchitan seems to be in a largely Zapotec area.

Hope I get this right-
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/12/07/weekinreview/1207-MUXE_index.html?th&emc=th

Subject: RE: BS: Boys Will Be Girls
From: Rowan
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 04:52 PM

And it's not just the plant oestrogens that have feminising effects on young males. Constant exposure to metrosexual advertising inhibits their display of secondary sexual characteristics and physiological maturity and pushes them towards waxing and other attempts at neoteny.

Extreme muscle development between the ears and the testes are often all that distinguish them as male.

Cheers, Rowan

Subject: RE: BS: Boys Will Be Girls
From: bobad
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 04:57 PM

If it keeps up it might be a remedy for the earth's overpopulation problem.

Subject: RE: BS: Boys Will Be Girls
From: Cluin
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 05:29 PM

Nowadays whenever I'm overcome (read sickened) by the smell of perfume in a public place, it is more likely the source is a young male.

Subject: RE: BS: Boys Will Be Girls
From: maple_leaf_boy
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 06:01 PM

You won't have to worry about me wearing perfumes, I'm allergic to that
stuff. (Seriously, not exaggerating).

Hopefully this information will cause people to reduce pollution.

Subject: RE: BS: Boys Will Be Girls
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 06:37 PM

Did anyone ever think that this is occuring because of overpopulation??? All species of plants and animals adapt and evolve for survival... People are animals, ya' know...

I mean, I don't know but it is a possibility, ain't it???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Boys Will Be Girls
From: skipy
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 06:37 PM

Boys, when you need to buy bras, see my ebay!
Skipy