Mudcat Survey

Subject: Mudcat Survey
From: cloudstreet
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 02:55 AM

I am surveying the members of Mudcat as part of my postgraduate study into Community Folk Heritage. The survey is part of a comparison of Mudcat with another online musical community, The Session (www.thesession.org).

If you would like to help me learn more about Mudcat, who catters are and why they like to be involved in this wonderful online phenomenon, follow this link:

Online Musical Communities Survey

Unless you choose otherwise, your contribution will be anonymous.

If you'd like to know more before taking part, please email me at [e-mail].

With thanks,

John Thompson
(PS. I cleared this thread with Max prior to posting)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Barry Finn
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 03:17 AM

Done, good luck John

Barry

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 03:20 AM

Done

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 03:46 AM

I dood it too...

I'll clear it up meself then...


LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 03:55 AM

Done. Look forward to seeing the digest of the results!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Little Robyn
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 04:16 AM

Done.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: mouldy
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 04:20 AM

All done

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: cloudstreet
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 04:26 AM

I'll be posting an anonymous summary of the results in March.

Thanks everyone

John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 04:31 AM

Done - but can I point out a small error? Q.11 reads "If you answered "yes" to question 9.... "

I'm pretty sure this should say "question 10". Might confuse some people!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Arnie
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 04:32 AM

I'm a sucker for these surveys - however, the format is very easy to complete(well I suppose it had to be!)and it only takes 5 mins to complete. When I went to Uni in the '70's I don't recall hearing of degrees in Community Folk Heritage. At that time, this
would have involved much time visiting bars and pubs in order to meet folkies and gather material - wonder if a grant was available?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: gnomad
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 04:37 AM

Mine is in. Oddly I had not really reflected on some of those questions before, I'll be interested to see the outcome.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: cloudstreet
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 04:46 AM

Thanks, Suegorgeous.
I've fixed that glitch.
John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: The Barden of England
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 04:47 AM

Done it too.
John Barden

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: GUEST,doc.tom
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 04:48 AM

Done. Be interested in the results, too.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: GUEST,Ghirotondo at work (cookieless)
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 05:09 AM

Done.
Lanfranco.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 05:09 AM

Yes, it's an interesting survey with good questions, and I'll be keen to see the results.

I hope everybody will take the few minutes necessary to fill it in - it's easy and non-intrusive. Online cyber-communities are something new in society, and this sort of analysis could be quite useful.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: bubblyrat
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 05:19 AM

Done. Be interesting to see the results !!
                     
                         Roger Vaughan Mills

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Will Fly
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 05:33 AM

Fecit.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: My guru always said
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 05:35 AM

Done, very interesting! Thanks John!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 05:35 AM

Finished.
Scooby

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: freda underhill
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 05:37 AM

finished - good luck with your research John!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: TheSnail
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 05:45 AM

Sorry to be picky John but I'm a bit confused by Q. 12. Yes, I do have a "real-world" community in folk music but it doesn't meet the same needs as the online musical community. Yes or No?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Zen
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 05:47 AM

Have completed.

Zen

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Colin Randall
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 05:50 AM

Also regarding "real world" communities, I would have welcomed a chance to expand on my No. I happen to be living where there are few if any opportunities but in other circumstances, eg back in London or Paris instead of being in the UAE, it would be different.

Or maybe it's just my fault for being a temporary expat.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: cloudstreet
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 06:06 AM

HI Colin and Mr Snail.

First of all, Mr Snail. I'm really after a "no" in your case. I'm investigating whether there are "real-world" groups that take the place of the online experience.

With respect to both, I'm happy to receive some expansion of your experiences by email, if you're prepared to offer them. If you'd like to remain anonymous, just make that clear in the email and I will even delete your identifying info and just store the body of the email for the purposes of the paper.

Email to [e-mail]

Thanks again for taking the time to consider the survey.

John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: MartinRyan
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 06:49 AM

Done

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: TheSnail
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 06:57 AM

Thanks John. Done.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 07:05 AM

Done too

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 07:26 AM

Just one thing, I have several "real world musical" communities, three morris teams, a dedicated song club, a choir, three music sessions plus other less frequent associations. It gets a bit difficult to decide how to answer how often I meet them!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 07:43 AM

faite

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Dave Earl
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 07:53 AM

Done.

Dave

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: GUEST,Black Hawk on works pc
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 07:56 AM

Done - interesting to see results!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 08:11 AM

me too!

I'll be very interested to see what you make of all the surveys & what Graham makes of your research!

sandra

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 08:26 AM

Done

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Beer
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 08:29 AM

Done as well.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Leadfingers
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 08:45 AM

Done - I would be interested in how many Catters respond , and the International Spread .

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Trevor
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 08:48 AM

Me too.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: bobad
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 08:56 AM

Diddit.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Mooh
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 09:08 AM

Completed. Good luck and all that.

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Nick
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 09:11 AM

Done

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Mark Clark
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 09:49 AM

fini

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: sharyn
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 10:04 AM

I did it,

A little feedback for you, John. On surveys, it is very helpful to have an "Other" category and space for explanations in every question because surveys don't reflect the subtleties of real life. For instancem use patterns (How often do you visit the site?). Well, sometimes I don't visit for several months at a time and then I will have a lot of questions about something and visit several times a day for awhile. Not being able to check multiple answers or comment renders my answer useless because whatever I choose from the list is inaccurate.

Other than that, it was pretty painless

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 10:11 AM

who could refuse?
........and why they would may make this thread more than a list.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: RTim
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 10:17 AM

Completed as requested - Good Luck.

Tim Radford

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 10:45 AM

Done.

Best of luck

Khatt

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 10:53 AM

Interesting. I look forward to the conclusions, too.

Done. One comment: I know we all know, but it might be better, at the beginning, to note it is the Mudcat "Cafe." (I know I am being pedantic!:-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Nancy King
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 11:00 AM

All done. Interesting...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: frogprince
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 11:14 AM

Done, though I suspect some of my answers as a non-musician may not be germaine.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: jacqui.c
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 11:19 AM

Done.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: quokka
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 11:21 AM

Thanks for this, John. I would love to see the results. I will PM you...and maybe catch up around Curtin?

Cheers,

Quokka

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: topical tom
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 11:23 AM

Tout fini! Merci!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: kendall
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 11:32 AM

done

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Ann N
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 12:37 PM

:) done, look forward to seeing the results and the how widespread we are.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 12:41 PM

I did it, but I'd like to help write the questions for the next one..☺.

Some of them are of the order of "why do you like eating & breathing" *grin*....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 01:44 PM

John, I did it. For clarification of countries' scale and geography, if yer in the UK, check with Leadfingers, John MacKenzie, and others who have traveled internationally for Mudcat Gatherings of various sorts.

~S~

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Peter the Squeezer
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 01:52 PM

Done!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 02:17 PM

I played survey too.

re question 12 I have more than one real world community and I would say they don't meet "same" needs as online community. They are complimentary to online community.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: GUEST,Partridge
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 02:50 PM

done

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: ClaireBear
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 03:31 PM

done

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Tangledwood
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 05:16 PM

Done John, looking forward to Saturday. :)

Mal

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Big Mick
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 06:38 PM

All done, bro. Good luck on it. I am anxious to see the results.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 07:05 PM

Completed. I have to say I'm not sure what you're trying to do here, & in particular why there's the dual focus on The Session and the Mudcat Cafe. I found some of the questions very difficult to answer because of this: I've been 'on' the Mudcat for less than a year, but on The Session for 2-3 years; I currently visit The Session about once a month, the Mudcat daily; and so on. If you wanted participants to answer about their *primary* online community, you should have specified this. Conversely, if you wanted users of both to answer on both, you should have duplicated the questions.

Interesting, though. I think the key difference between online and real-world is there's much more distance and much more intimacy online - you can spill your guts with confidence, because it feels that much less 'real'. That's just my perception, though - I'll be interested to know what you come up with.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 07:18 PM

Thanks , I have completed your survey ,I did not know about thesessions, I will visit the site now and dependant on what I find I may find I will answer the survey you have no doubt posted there.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: MegW
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 07:24 PM

Did it!

This is interesting for me because I've been approaching Mudcat as more of a pedagogical and archival site for my own research. It's the history geek in me, I suppose!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Alice
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 07:43 PM

Finished the survey.
I used to check into thesession.org once in awhile, but it is not as complete or friendly a place as Mudcat, and I've been here over 10 years.

When will you have the results?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 12:25 AM

double done.......

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: cloudstreet
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 01:34 AM

Many thanks to all of those who have completed the survey so far. The count has just passed 400 (running roughly 60% Mudcat visitors).

I plan at this stage to leave the survey online and accessible for a month, closing it down on the 3rd of March.

I appreciate all of the various perspectives people are bringing to the survey, and will endeavour to incorporate at least the spirit of all the various contributions into my analysis, comparing these two communities.

John Thompson

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Gurney
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 02:14 AM

Done.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Newport Boy
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 09:18 AM

Done (yesterday - but I've been busy).

Phil

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 09:25 AM

Done........and as I often do, I agree with Bill. Some of the questions are like asking if I like breathing......actually in my case that would be farting..........

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: GUEST,flyingcat (moira)
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 12:41 PM

that's me done too. M

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 01:06 PM

Done

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: GUEST,tinkerbell
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 07:09 PM

Done.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: JennieG
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 07:11 PM

Done finished. John, will you be posting the results for us all to see so we can briefly enjoy our 8 seconds of fame?

Cheers
JennieG

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: GEST
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 09:36 PM

Done. Took me ten minutes.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Cllr
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 10:29 PM

done cllr

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: GUEST,Seaking
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 03:36 AM

Done

Chris

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 10:28 AM

I haev finally succumbed to temptation and went to look at thesession.

Now I see why I had never heard of it - it's for Irish tunes. That comes in about zero on my interest scale, marginally above bluegrass ones.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Don Firth
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 12:18 PM

Just finish it. And I, too, would be interested in seeing the results.

I'm not familiar with thesession, but I intend to check it out.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 12:27 PM

marginally above bluegrass ones

Thanks RB... added to list of songs for next Stoke Session

Paradise by John Prine

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Leadbelly
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 12:43 PM

Done. Being a marketing researcher I could not say "No" because the questionnaire isn't bad.
Good luck!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Zen
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 01:29 PM

it's for Irish tunes. That comes in about zero on my interest scale, marginally above bluegrass ones

Thanks for that RB... good to know. You wouldn't care to add Scottish, Appalachian and Old Timey so I can rest completely easy?

Zen

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 01:42 PM

No Zen, I occasionally listen to Scottish tunes.

And VT - (1) that's not folk, it's contemporary, and (2) it's a song not a tune.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Zen
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 01:45 PM

Well four out of five is a result... at least for me.

Zen

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 02:02 PM

Done. Good luck, John.

Lin

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Haruo
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 02:56 PM

Done

and Well done

Looking forward to the results

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 04:44 PM

RB
John Prine (born October 10, 1946, in Maywood, Illinois) is an American country/folk singer-songwriter.

If the story told by Paradise as well as the melody not bluegrass, well it comes near enough for the definition of bluegrass I understood in the 70's when I was listening to Marshall Tucker, Charlie Daniels and John Prine. All playing on the bluegrass hour of the one and only radio station I could get in West Virginia.

As to it being a song and not a tune that's true.

BTW did you know that your tendancy for pedantry is hanging out? Better put that sucker away.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Joybell
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 06:16 PM

Done from me too
Joy

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: mrdux
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 11:44 PM

done -- michael

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: kerry and Mandy
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 04:44 AM

all done John, hope it helps.
good luck
kerry and mandy

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 07:47 AM

DONE

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Shimbo Darktree
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 11:54 PM

Done.

I note Arnie's comments about possible research in pubs & bars. This certainly happens in our neck of the woods, and strangely enough it is also John Thompson's neck of the woods (part of the year, anyway). Perhaps this clears up some questions as to "why"?

Shimbo

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: GUEST,Tony in Darwin
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 04:02 AM

Done (lost ma cookie)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Charmion
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 04:01 PM

Done too.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: John J
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 07:18 PM

Dunnit.

JJ

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: cloudstreet
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 06:45 PM

i've been offline for a couple of days, but I will be posting a summary of results sometime in March after the survey period has finished. Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. We've passed 500 responses and I particularly appreciate the extent to which people are prepared to be open about their views.

John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: icon
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 07:10 PM

Done - painless!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Rog Peek
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 07:11 PM

Done.

Rog

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Pistachio
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 04:34 AM

Done - took less than 5 minutes. Clear and easy to use.
Who'll get the 100th post?
Hazel.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Leadfingers
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 04:51 AM

ME !!!! 100

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: naughtyforty
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 05:20 AM

Have also done this.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: semi-submersible
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 07:56 AM

Hecho

(in a rambling and sometimes incoherent manner, I fear. As night turns to morning, my verbosity increases and my self-editing fails.)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: JohnB
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 02:12 PM

I did done it but I kept it to me'sen and didn't tell anyone.
Until now, JohnB.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 07:00 PM

Done

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: maire-aine
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 07:47 PM

Done.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 08:00 PM

Done

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 06:53 AM

Couldn't be arsed to do it, but I am keeping the pen anyway.
No, seriously, did it last week - doddle.
Like others, I'd be keen to see the results.
We can then debate them in a separate thread, spiced with the usual abusive judgmental comments towards each other. Or preferably without them.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 07:30 AM

I did it, but like others I was a bit perplexed about comparing this to any "real world" group I'm involved in. There are some people I talk face to face about musicological matters with, but most of my real-world involvement is in actual performance in sessions - we may talk about tunes or songs in between playing them, but that's not the main point.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 12 Feb 09 - 07:05 AM

Wedi gwna. Hwyl, Bryn

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Mr Red
Date: 12 Feb 09 - 10:59 AM

done

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: rich-joy
Date: 13 Feb 09 - 08:23 AM

um .... has anyone else had trouble getting into the survey???

When I click the link in John's 1st post, it just takes me to the "thanks for doing it" end page of the Survey Company - and I can't find my way back to where I do the Mudcat Survey .....


R-J

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: paula t
Date: 13 Feb 09 - 06:19 PM

Done

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: cloudstreet
Date: 05 Mar 09 - 06:50 AM

Thanks to everyone who responded (372 from mudcat). The survey is now closed.

Once I've had a chance to assimilate the information, I'll post some of the results to this discussion thread.

John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Megan L
Date: 05 Mar 09 - 06:51 AM

Thanks lad it should make interesting reading

Subject: SURVEY RESULTS
From: cloudstreet
Date: 08 May 09 - 10:41 AM

For those with an interest in the results to the comparative survey I conducted in February, I have now posted both the survey results summary and the paper which I submitted based on the survey results.

The Survey Summary can be found at http://tinyurl.com/q7a7c2

The assignment paper based on the results is at http://tinyurl.com/rxnj3o

Once again thank you to all of the help that members gave me in offering their opinions and impressions.

John Thompson

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 08 May 09 - 11:27 AM

congratulations, John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 08 May 09 - 11:27 AM

Thanks for the update, John. An interesting picture.

~ Becky in Tucson

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 May 09 - 11:45 AM

So, it's not an illusion, there are about twice as many men as women on Mudcat. Interesting. I will read your paper this evening. It looks very interesting. Thanks for posting an update. I really look forward to reading it!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Max
Date: 08 May 09 - 11:47 AM

This is very fascinating stuff John, I think you've done a wonderful job. An excellent paper. Is it ok with you if I post the transcripts from our interview as well? If you have it handy, go ahead and do so.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: cloudstreet
Date: 08 May 09 - 11:58 AM

And with Max's permission, here's the transcript of our conversation (Appendix C)

http://tinyurl.com/or9cae

Thanks, Max

John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Nancy King
Date: 08 May 09 - 12:41 PM

Hmmm -- doesn't look as if Max had much to say... Did something get omitted?

Thanks for posting the survey results, John. Very interesting stuff.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: cloudstreet
Date: 08 May 09 - 12:54 PM

Whoops.

Let's try that again:

http://tinyurl.com/q5lgcg

This really is the transcript.

J

Subject: RE: Mudcat Survey
From: Bill D
Date: 08 May 09 - 01:13 PM

Interesting to see all that 'said' in one place. Max even gets 90% of the details correct... *grin* But you cant expect a busy administrator to follow ALL the undercurrents.