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Subject: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: Peter T. Date: 22 Mar 09 - 12:07 PM Eliot Spitzer (he who was on the trail of the financial mess before he got caught with his pants down) has a devastating column today on the interesting possibility that the whole AIG bailout was simply panic, and that at least a huge chunk of it was unnecessary: http://www.slate.com/id/2214407/ It is intriguing that this, among other pieces, is beginning to assault the whole sweet world of the hopelessly corrupt government-business mutual assistance society. It is certainly edging towards crippling the rescue effort (which may not necessarily be a good thing overall). yours, Peter T. |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: Janie Date: 22 Mar 09 - 12:28 PM Here's a clicky. http://www.slate.com/id/2214407/ |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: number 6 Date: 22 Mar 09 - 12:48 PM Eliot Spitzer ... now here is a guy who should know about real scandals ... I dunno, I don't know what the hell is going on anymore. biLL |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: bald headed step child Date: 22 Mar 09 - 01:22 PM Interesting articles, Peter. Spitzer had been having his "events" with the hookers for years, but it never seemed to bother anyone until he began investigating Wall street. We know there is a lot more to the story than what they are telling us, and it's quite common for them to exploit personal indiscretions to discredit anyone who might find out the truth. I didn't think at the time that Spitzer should have resigned, but I wonder what the next scandal would have been. Was there something worse that he didn't want made public? Little pieces here and there lead me to believe the big story is going to be beyond belief when all is revealed, if we ever find out what is really going on. BHSC |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: number 6 Date: 22 Mar 09 - 02:28 PM "but it never seemed to bother anyone until he began investigating Wall street." I can't help but agree with that one baldie. All I can say is the faith in the government (Obama's court and whomever) and big corporate America, has been tarnished considerably. Things will never be the same. biLL |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: Greg F. Date: 22 Mar 09 - 06:30 PM Why anyone gives a crap what folks do with their dicks is beyond me. Surely there's a bigger picture- |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: Rapparee Date: 22 Mar 09 - 07:51 PM I'd druther he was stimulatin' the economy by paying hookers (with his own money) than rippin' off people's pension funds.... |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: Amos Date: 26 May 09 - 03:23 PM Bailouts to date: AIG (Details) Received other federal aid. See details. Insurance Company N.Y. $69.8 billion Bank of America (Details) Received other federal aid. See details. Bank (Public) N.C. $52.5 billion Freddie Mac (Details) Financial Services Company Va. $50.7 billion Citigroup (Details) Received other federal aid. See details. Bank (Public) N.Y. $50 billion Fannie Mae (Details) Financial Services Company D.C. $34.2 billion JPMorgan Chase (Details) Bank (Public) N.Y. $25 billion Wells Fargo (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $25 billion General Motors (Details) Auto Company Mich. $20.3 billion Chrysler (Details) Auto Company Mich. $13.3 billion GMAC (Details) Financial Services Company Mich. $12.5 billion Goldman Sachs (Details) Bank (Public) N.Y. $10 billion Morgan Stanley (Details) Bank (Public) N.Y. $10 billion PNC Financial Services (Details) Bank (Public) Pa. $7.6 billion U.S. Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Minn. $6.6 billion SunTrust (Details) Bank (Public) Ga. $4.9 billion Capital One Financial Corp. (Details) Bank (Public) Va. $3.6 billion Chase Home Finance (Details) Mortgage Servicer N.J. $3.6 billion Regions Financial Corp. (Details) Bank (Public) Ala. $3.5 billion GM Supplier Receivables, LLC (Details) Auto Company (Parts Supplier) $3.5 billion Fifth Third Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Ohio $3.4 billion Hartford Financial Services (Details) Insurance Company Conn. $3.4 billion American Express (Details) Financial Services Company N.Y. $3.4 billion BB&T (Details) Bank (Public) N.C. $3.1 billion Bank of New York Mellon (Details) Bank (Public) N.Y. $3 billion Wells Fargo Bank, NA (Details) Mortgage Servicer Iowa $2.9 billion KeyCorp (Details) Bank (Public) Ohio $2.5 billion Lincoln National Corporation (Details) Insurance Company Pa. $2.5 billion CIT Group (Details) Bank (Public) N.Y. $2.3 billion Comerica Incorporated (Details) Bank (Public) Texas $2.3 billion CitiMortgage (Details) Mortgage Servicer Mo. $2.1 billion State Street (Details) Bank (Public) Mass. $2 billion Principal Financial Group (Details) Insurance Company Iowa $2 billion Countrywide Home Loan Servicing (Details) Mortgage Servicer Calif. $1.9 billion Marshall & Ilsley (Details) Bank (Public) Wis. $1.7 billion Northern Trust (Details) Bank (Public) Ill. $1.6 billion Chrysler Receivables SPV LLC (Details) Auto Company (Parts Supplier) $1.5 billion Chrysler Financial Services (Details) Financial Services Company Mich. $1.5 billion Zions Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Utah $1.4 billion Huntington Bancshares (Details) Bank (Public) Ohio $1.4 billion Discover Financial Services (Details) Financial Services Company Ill. $1.2 billion Synovus Financial Corp. (Details) Bank (Public) Ga. $967.9 million Popular, Inc. (Details) Bank (Public) Puerto Rico $935 million First Horizon National (Details) Bank (Public) Tenn. $866.5 million Bank of America, NA (Details) Mortgage Servicer Calif. $798.9 million Aurora Loan Services (Details) Mortgage Servicer Colo. $798 million Ocwen Financial Corporation (Details) Mortgage Servicer Fla. $659 million GMAC Mortgage (Details) Mortgage Servicer Pa. $633 million M&T Bank Corporation (Details) Bank (Public) N.Y. $600 million Associated Banc-Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Wis. $525 million Saxon Mortgage Services (Details) Mortgage Servicer Texas $407 million City National (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $400 million First BanCorp (Details) Bank (Public) Puerto Rico $400 million Webster Financial (Details) Bank (Public) Conn. $400 million Fulton Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Pa. $376.5 million Select Portfolio Servicing (Details) Mortgage Servicer Utah $376 million Wilshire Credit Corporation (Details) Mortgage Servicer Ore. $366 million South Financial Group (Details) Bank (Public) S.C. $347 million Wilmington Trust Corporation (Details) Bank (Public) Del. $330 million Home Loan Services, Inc. (Details) Mortgage Servicer Pa. $319 million East West Bancorp, Inc. (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $306.5 million Sterling Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Wash. $303 million Citizens Republic Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Mich. $300 million Susquehanna Bancshares (Details) Bank (Public) Pa. $300 million Valley National (Details) Bank (Public) N.J. $300 million Whitney Holding Corp (Details) Bank (Public) La. $300 million UCBH Holdings (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $298.7 million First Banks, Inc. (Details) Bank (Private) Mo. $295.4 million New York Private Bank & Trust Corp (Details) Bank (Private) N.Y. $267.3 million Flagstar Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Mich. $266.7 million Cathay General Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $258 million Wintrust Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Ill. $250 million PrivateBancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Ill. $243.8 million SVB Financial Group (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $235 million International Bancshares Corporation (Details) Bank (Public) Texas $216 million Trustmark Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Miss. $215 million Umpqua (Details) Bank (Public) Ore. $214.2 million Washington Federal Inc. (Details) Bank (Public) Wash. $200 million MB Financial (Details) Bank (Public) Ill. $196 million Carrington Mortgage Services (Details) Mortgage Servicer Calif. $195 million First Midwest Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Ill. $193 million First Niagara (Details) Bank (Public) N.Y. $184 million Pacific Capital Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $180.6 million United Community Banks (Details) Bank (Public) Ga. $180 million Green Tree Servicing (Details) Mortgage Servicer Minn. $156 million Boston Private Financial Holdings (Details) Bank (Public) Mass. $154 million Provident Bankshares Corp. 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(Details) Bank (Public) Ark. $50 million Seacoast Banking Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Fla. $50 million State Bankshares (Details) Bank (Private) N.D. $50 million Fidelity Southern Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Ga. $48.2 million BancPlus Corporation (Details) Bank (Private) Miss. $48 million The Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Del. $45.2 million MetroCorp Bancshares (Details) Bank (Public) Texas $45 million Cadence Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Miss. $44 million Exchange Bank (Details) Bank (Private) Calif. $43 million Southern Community Financial (Details) Bank (Public) N.C. $42.8 million Sterling Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) N.Y. $42 million First Community Bancshares (Details) Bank (Public) Va. $41.5 million PremierWest Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Ore. $41.4 million Capital Bank (Details) Bank (Public) N.C. $41.3 million Berkshire Hills Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Mass. $40 million Heritage Commerce Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $40 million Reliance Bancshares (Details) Bank (Private) Mo. $40 million Cascade Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Wash. $39 million OceanFirst Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) N.J. $38.3 million QCR Holdings (Details) Bank (Public) Ill. $38.2 million Eagle Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Md. $38.2 million Bridgeview Bancorp (Details) Bank (Private) Ill. $38 million Financial Institutions (Details) Bank (Public) N.Y. $37.5 million First Defiance Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Ohio $37 million TIB Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Fla. $37 million State Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) N.Y. $36.8 million Fidelity Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Private) Kan. $36.3 million West Bancorporation (Details) Bank (Public) Iowa $36 million Yadkin Valley Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) N.C. $36 million Trinity Capital Corporation (Details) Bank (Private) N.M. $35.5 million Marquette National Corp (Details) Bank (Private) Ill. $35.5 million Enterprise Financial Services Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Mo. $35 million Porter Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Ky. $35 million F&M Financial Corporation (Details) Bank (Private) N.C. $34.2 million Encore Bancshares (Details) Bank (Public) Texas $34 million The Bank of Kentucky (Details) Bank (Public) Ky. $34 million First Market Bank (Details) Bank (Private) Va. $33.9 million First Security Group (Details) Bank (Public) Tenn. $33 million Firstbank Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Mich. $33 million Centrue Financial (Details) Bank (Public) Mo. $32.7 million Pulaski Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Mo. $32.5 million Central Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Mass. $32.5 million MutualFirst Financial (Details) Bank (Public) Ind. $32.4 million Parkvale Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Pa. $31.8 million Bank of North Carolina (Details) Bank (Public) N.C. $31.3 million Royal Bancshares of Pennsylvania (Details) Bank (Public) Pa. $30.4 million Hawthorn Bancshares (Details) Bank (Public) Mo. $30.3 million Bancorp Rhode Island (Details) Bank (Public) R.I. $30 million Farmers Capital Bank Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Ky. $30 million First M&F Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Miss. $30 million First United Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Md. $30 million Spirit BankCorp (Details) Bank (Private) Okla. $30 million StellarOne Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Va. $30 million Tennessee Commerce Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Tenn. $30 million Peapack-Gladstone Financial (Details) Bank (Public) N.J. $28.7 million Colony Bankcorp (Details) Bank (Public) Ga. $28 million CenterState Banks of Florida, Inc. (Details) Bank (Public) Fla. $27.9 million Intermountain Community Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Idaho $27 million Citizens & Northern Corporation (Details) Bank (Public) Pa. $26.4 million Washington Banking Company (Details) Bank (Public) Wash. $26.4 million Patriot Bancshares (Details) Bank (Private) Texas $26 million HMN Financial (Details) Bank (Public) Minn. $26 million LNB Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Ohio $25.2 million Princeton National Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Ill. $25.1 million Peoples Bancorp of North Carolina (Details) Bank (Public) N.C. $25.1 million First California Financial Group (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $25 million HF Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) S.D. $25 million Horizon Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Ind. $25 million Intervest Bancshares (Details) Bank (Public) N.Y. $25 million Rogers Bancshares (Details) Bank (Private) Ark. $25 million The First Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Maine $25 million VIST Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Pa. $25 million Crescent Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) N.C. $24.9 million National Bancshares (Details) Bank (Private) Iowa $24.7 million CBS Banc-Corp (Details) Bank (Private) Ala. $24.3 million Community Trust Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Private) La. $24 million Eastern Virginia Bankshares (Details) Bank (Public) Va. $24 million Heritage Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Wash. $24 million Bridge Capital Holdings (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $23.9 million Severn Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Md. $23.4 million Park Bancorporation (Details) Bank (Private) Wis. $23.2 million First Citizens Banc Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Ohio $23.2 million TriState Capital Holdings (Details) Bank (Private) Pa. $23 million Central Community Corp (Details) Bank (Private) Texas $22 million Middleburg Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Va. $22 million Wainwright Bank & Trust (Details) Bank (Public) Mass. $22 million Blue Valley Ban Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Kan. $21.8 million Indiana Community Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Ind. $21.5 million BancIndependent (Details) Bank (Private) Ala. $21.1 million AmeriServ Financial (Details) Bank (Public) Pa. $21 million Heritage Oaks Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $21 million Mercantile Bank Corporation (Details) Bank (Public) Mich. $21 million The Baraboo Bancorporation (Details) Bank (Private) Wis. $20.7 million Unity Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) N.J. $20.6 million United Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Mich. $20.6 million Citizens South Banking Corp (Details) Bank (Public) N.C. $20.5 million Market Street Bancshares, Inc. (Details) Bank (Private) Ill. $20.3 million BNCCORP (Details) Bank (Private) N.D. $20.1 million Bank of Commerce (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $20 million C&F Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Va. $20 million Community First Bancshares (Details) Bank (Private) Tenn. $20 million First Financial Service Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Ky. $20 million MidSouth Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) La. $20 million D.L. Evans Bancorp (Details) Bank (Private) Idaho $19.9 million First PacTrust Bancorp, Inc. (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $19.3 million Carver Bancorp (Details) Bank (Community Development) N.Y. $19 million Bar Harbor Bankshares (Details) Bank (Public) Maine $18.8 million HopFed Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Ky. $18.4 million Sovereign Bancshares (Details) Bank (Private) Texas $18.2 million Security Federal Corp (Details) Bank (Public) S.C. $18 million ECB Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) N.C. $17.9 million First NBC Bank Holding Company (Details) Bank (Private) La. $17.8 million Community First Inc (Details) Bank (Private) Tenn. $17.8 million Community Bankers Trust Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Va. $17.7 million First Northern Community Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $17.4 million Southern First Bancshares (Details) Bank (Public) Miss. $17.3 million Liberty Shares (Details) Bank (Private) Ga. $17.3 million Northern States Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Ill. $17.2 million First American International Corp (Details) Bank (Community Development) N.Y. $17 million Guaranty Federal Bancshares (Details) Bank (Public) Mo. $17 million White River Bancshares Company (Details) Bank (Private) Ark. $16.8 million Timberland Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Wash. $16.6 million Codorus Valley Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Pa. $16.5 million First Federal Bancshares of Arkansas (Details) Bank (Public) Ark. $16.5 million 1st Financial Services Corp (Details) Bank (Public) N.C. $16.4 million Parke Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) N.J. $16.3 million Pacific City Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Private) Calif. $16.2 million Valley Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Va. $16 million Carolina Bank Holdings (Details) Bank (Public) N.C. $16 million MidWest One Financial Group (Details) Bank (Public) Iowa $16 million Community West Bancshares (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. $15.6 million Stockmens Financial Corporation (Details) Bank (Private) S.D. $15.6 million Tri-County Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Private) Md. $15.5 million BankFirst Capital Corp (Details) Bank (Private) Miss. $15.5 million First Reliance Bancshares (Details) Bank (Private) S.C. $15.3 million LSB Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Mass. $15 million State Capital Corporation (Details) Bank (Private) Miss. $15 million Business Bancshares (Details) Bank (Private) Mo. $15 million Foresight Financial Group, Inc. (Details) Bank (Private) Ill. $15 million Nicolet Bankshares (Details) Bank (Private) Wis. $15 million First Community Bancshares, Inc (Details) Bank (Private) Kan. $14.8 million Village Bank and Trust Financial Corp (Details) Bank (Public) Va. $14.7 million Monarch Financial Holdings (Details) Bank (Public) Va. $14.7 million Tidelands Bancshares (Details) Bank (Public) S.C. $14.4 million First National Corporation (Details) Bank (Private) Va. $13.9 million Magna Bank (Details) Bank (Private) Tenn. $13.8 million Sword Financial Corporation (Details) Bank (Private) Wis. $13.6 million First Texas BHC (Details) Bank (Private) Texas $13.5 million Oak Valley Bancorp (Details) Bank (Public) Calif. &n |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: PoppaGator Date: 26 May 09 - 03:36 PM Amos, I believe you exceeded the "one-screen limit" for paste-ins! The sheer number of listings is an eye-opener, to say the least. I don't believe anyone is gonig to read the entire text, though. |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: pdq Date: 26 May 09 - 04:03 PM Various "bail-out" and"stimulus package" bills starting in May 2008 have have a revised price tag estimate of 3.1 TRILLION dollars. Far more than the actual federal budget. Some were passed so quickly that the Republicans were not even given time to read them. If Democrats do not smell a fish, perhaps they need a nose transplant. "The vote to release the TARP funding was pretty much along party lines, with most Democrats voting to release the funding. Below a list of the exceptions. Nine Democrats voted NOT to relesee the funds: Bayh (IN), Cantwell (WA), Dorgan (ND), Feingold (WI), Lincoln (AR), Ben Nelson (NE), Shaheen (NH), Sanders (VT), Wyden (OR). Six Republicans voted to release the money: Alexander (TN), Gregg (NH), Kyl (AZ), Lugar (IN), Snowe (ME), Voinovich (OH)." |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: kendall Date: 26 May 09 - 04:18 PM The bail outs started under the republicans didn't they? |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: Amos Date: 26 May 09 - 04:42 PM They did, indeed; they were rolling along at high speed under SecTreas Paulson well before the Inauguration. A |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: Bill D Date: 26 May 09 - 05:00 PM If you just LOOK at videos of Paulson during the crisis and follow the detailed accounts of who learned what when, it will clarify who panicked and who convinced others to share his panic. Yeah, it NOW seems that too much money was thrown about too soon, but Paulson assured us that it was necessary. Paulson was barely able to form coherent sentences at a couple of those announcements. (and remember, Paulson was ON Wall Street (Goldman/Sachs) during some of the dubious practices that led to all this.) |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: CarolC Date: 26 May 09 - 05:34 PM They definitely started under the Republicans. And they were massive then, too. |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: pdq Date: 26 May 09 - 07:00 PM Since January this year, the Democrats have had a bully majority in both the House and Senate, and the presidency. The loyal opposition has been reduced to the irrelevant spectators. About 2/3 of the bail-out/stimulus money was passed without a singel vote in favor from House Republicans. It's Obama's mess now and the waste of taxpayers money is obscene. |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: Peace Date: 26 May 09 - 07:03 PM My name was missing from that list of bailouts. WTF? |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: pdq Date: 26 May 09 - 07:09 PM Perhaps they thought you were a lost cause? |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: Peace Date: 26 May 09 - 07:09 PM I am now. I was counting on that $47.00. |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: pdq Date: 26 May 09 - 07:12 PM You really thought that TARP money would be used to buy the rights to your life story? |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: Amos Date: 26 May 09 - 07:39 PM It's worth a good deal more than some of the shlock the money has been spent on! A |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: beardedbruce Date: 26 May 09 - 08:12 PM Nine Democrats voted NOT to relesee the funds: Bayh (IN), Cantwell (WA), Dorgan (ND), Feingold (WI), Lincoln (AR), Ben Nelson (NE), Shaheen (NH), Sanders (VT), Wyden (OR). I do not see Obama in this list. Nor can you blame Bush for the actions that Obama took after 20 January. |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: CarolC Date: 27 May 09 - 01:22 AM It would have been much worse had the Democrats in Congress not stood up to Paulson during the Bush administration when he demanded that they hand him total control of everything with no scrutiny or accountability, ever (which Bush and Cheney were quite happy to go along with). I don't agree with much of what the Democrats have done with regard to this issue, but it is a totally bipartisan issue and problem. |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: Neil D Date: 27 May 09 - 03:57 AM From: Peace - PM Date: 26 May 09 - 07:03 PM My name was missing from that list of bailouts. WTF? Unless you helped bring the world to the brink of economic disaster with predatory lending and other ill-advised fiscal practices you haven't earned a bailout. |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: GUEST,beardedbruce Date: 27 May 09 - 03:53 PM That, and your contributions to the Obama campaign were not enough to get you noticed. |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: heric Date: 01 Jun 09 - 07:09 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXlxBeAvsB8 (OIG - Federal Reserve) |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: Riginslinger Date: 01 Jun 09 - 07:23 PM "The sheer number of listings is an eye-opener, to say the least. I don't believe anyone is gonig to read the entire text, though." I'm going to print it and pass it around! |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: DougR Date: 01 Jun 09 - 07:37 PM Efforts to pin this debacle on the Bush administration is pathetic. Bush screwed up his fair share, but he can't hold a candle to Obama and his gang. Seems Obama wanted to bail out some of the finer eating and entertainment establishments in New York City last weekend too! Taking three jets and two helicopters over the Hudson so he and Michelle can recreate, is just shameful. Particularly after he has been preaching to the crowd the need to tighten belts. One report I heard reported the fuel for the aircraft alone exceeded $24,000. That's pocket change to Obama, I know, but ask a laid off auto worker what he or she thinks about it. I doubt they are very sympathetic to Obama's need to recreate. DougR |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: gnu Date: 01 Jun 09 - 07:57 PM $Cdn10.5B for GM Canada today. And the attack ads by the PCs on the Liberals on the TV are constant. Election? |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: gnu Date: 01 Jun 09 - 08:44 PM Must look at a Chev as a replacement vehicle. |
Subject: RE: BS: The Real Bailout Scandal From: Riginslinger Date: 01 Jun 09 - 09:50 PM Yeah, gnu, I've geen thinking the same thing. |