BS: Storm in a DD cup

Subject: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: GUEST,Tweed
Date: 07 May 09 - 04:40 PM

Another major rip off occuring I see. A friend of mine, Beckie Williams has launched an online petition against a department store which charges customers extra for oversized bras. Her campaign topped 10,000 people signing it today.

If any of you are on Facebook, please go to a group called Busts 4 Justice, and sign it.

Beckie is 26 and wears a 30G bra, is angry at the policy of some stores charging extra for large cups.   

So please, give her your support.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: gnu
Date: 07 May 09 - 04:48 PM

Well, I can understand why. Bigger costs more.

My ex was top heavy. Every time I see same, I feel for the possible problems from a health perspective and from the social stereotyping, leering and poor jokes.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 May 09 - 04:50 PM

Not trying to pick a fight or anything, but it does cost more in materials to make them larger, right? The kind I buy come in all different sizes, same price, though, last I checked. Larger sized clothing always costs more; whether it is fair or not, it does take more product to make them, so...I pay extra.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: artbrooks
Date: 07 May 09 - 04:55 PM

Well, Tweed, while I can understand her indignation, it isn't unusual for men's 2XL or 3XL shirts to cost a few dollars more than L or XL. For example, a men's "Short Sleeve Banded Mesh Polo Shirt" currently costs $19.50 for an XL and $25.50 for a 2XL at LandsEnd.com.   While they do have more material in them, I think (and that's IMHO, not based on any research) that simple economics results in higher costs for items with lower demand.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: jacqui.c
Date: 07 May 09 - 05:03 PM

There's also the extra engineering that has to go in to making sure that there is sufficient support in larger bras, in addition to more material. Straps need to be wider and there needs to be more fastening for comfort.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 07 May 09 - 05:23 PM

I'll admit that when I first looked at this thread I thought, "What's the big deal? Stores routinely charge more for clothing in very large sizes."

But then I realized that most folks who buy size XXXL tee-shirts need 'em because they're overweight, not because they're genetically humongous. For most of 'em, it's a matter of choice. They could choose to go on diets and go back to payin' regular price.

But a large-breated woman doesn't have that option. She may only weigh 100 pounds and still have very large breasts. It's genetics, not choice, so why should she have to pay more?

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Emma B
Date: 07 May 09 - 05:47 PM

Not all large sizes are due to 'gluttony' many are simply due to height, shoe size etc.

There was an interview with a spokesman from M&S (the 'offending' store on the radio recently; he made a good case based on the need for extra engineering etc as described by jacqui above.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: GUEST,Tweed
Date: 07 May 09 - 05:57 PM

Caps, shoes and gloves cost the same in various sizes. Just checked with my niece who works in a large store.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 May 09 - 07:36 PM

If you wanted to build a shed 8' by 12', you'd have to buy a certain amount of lumber, nails, etc. If you wanted it to be 10' by 12', you'd have to buy more of those materials, ergo, it would cost you more.

We cannot expect lingerie companies to subsidise our larger sized breasts by writing off some of their costs. Well we could, I guess, if they were using larger sizes as a "loss leader" but I really don't think that's going to happen!

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: CarolC
Date: 07 May 09 - 07:37 PM

Even the biggest bras are not very big. There's really no reason to charge $40 or $50 for what probably amounts to less than a quarter of a yard of (usually rather cheap) fabric.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 May 09 - 08:10 PM

I don't really care to weigh in on this thread other than to note that when I first spotted it, there was an interesting juxtaposition:

"Storm in a DD cup" followed by "Six Degrees of Separation."

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: GUEST,Tweed
Date: 07 May 09 - 08:17 PM

That's why the Sports bra was invented Don.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: CarolC
Date: 07 May 09 - 11:58 PM

The store has changed its policy as a result of the petition...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/090507/oddities/britain_clothing_offbeat

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Gurney
Date: 08 May 09 - 12:58 AM

Well, larger people can recover their costs by doing a lot of flying. You can see people who weigh twice the poundage of my wife, but pay exactly the same, any day at any airport, and in their case the airline's fuel costs must be double, too.

I make no comment on the brassiere issue. That way lies a heap of shit and derision.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 08 May 09 - 02:15 AM

A larger man buys a larger suit or shirt... mostly pays a larger price due to material cost.. what is the difference??? As long as the prices are relative to the market and not extortionately priced for the oversized, then what's the problem?

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Anne Lister
Date: 08 May 09 - 03:33 AM

As a well endowed woman myself, I can't see the problem. As people have said, it's much the same as other clothing prices, and not all size is a question of dietary or lifestyle choices.

Anne

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 08 May 09 - 04:14 AM

In a way you could make exactly the same case for having food produced for 'special diets' exactly the same cost as normal food.

The problem being that a shop who is pressured to put out such stuff for a minimal market at the exact same price as products produced for a mass market, may find they won't be able to warrant the cost to themselves of subsidising those few customers on a special diet, so off the shelves it comes. Thus making it far harder for those with a special diet to live a normal life.

If you compel shops to subsidise more expensive products required by a minimal amount of customers, and sell them at the same cost as mass produced stuff for the majority, they might cease stocking products for a small market at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 08 May 09 - 04:23 AM

Hell, just FINDING a DD cup bra in a high street store is hard enough. Most clothing stores stock from 32AA (that's pre-teen trainer/fried eggs on an ironing board size) to 38D (matronly but slender) as a matter of course. If you happen to be 40 or above (singer's chest, all that extra expansion room required) then it's a hard job just finding one to fit. And don't tell me it's because I'm 'cuddly'... I've needed a 40C since I was 16 and weighed 6 stones less than I do now.

And don't even think about finding a reasonably priced bra over 38D that could ever be considered alluring or sexy... the high street rules are that if you're over 38D and don't have much money, then you don't have or want a sex life either.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: GUEST,Tweed
Date: 08 May 09 - 04:25 AM

I agree Gruney,there was a guy on a flight I was on a few months ago and no one could use the seat beside him as half of him fell into it. He insisted on sitting on the isle seat, no one could get past him on route to the toilet.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 May 09 - 06:35 AM

aisle?

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Micca
Date: 08 May 09 - 01:26 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: CarolC
Date: 08 May 09 - 02:17 PM

If they're going to charge more for the amount of material used, why aren't D cups more expensive than A cups? Why do the prices only change when it's DD cups? And why does a person who wears a 34 DD pay a more than a person who wears a 38 B?

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: gnu
Date: 08 May 09 - 02:25 PM

Ahhhh... that is great marketing! That kind of advertising costs one helluva lot more if ya gotta pay for it. Someone's gonna get a big bonus this year.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Anne Lister
Date: 08 May 09 - 03:18 PM

CarolC ... the difference between a D and a DD is depth of cup, which means more sculpting and more material. The difference between an A and a D cup is breadth of back, which means more strap, which is simpler to manage and involves a bit less material. Admittedly there's not a lot in it either way.
But that's the way it goes. And I'm with LTS about the styles, which gets even more difficult if you're like me and hate underwiring.

Anne

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Becca72
Date: 08 May 09 - 03:56 PM

All I know is I'm a 42D and I've never paid more than $35 for a bra in the 27 years I've worn one.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: GUEST,London Bass player
Date: 08 May 09 - 04:15 PM

We should spare a thought for those ladies with large breasts. My three sisters are all very busty and it's as if guys talk to their breasts when out for an evening.

They were teased at school,always had remarks shouted at them in the street,and attract some blokes for all the wrong reasons. Two suffer back problems as a result of their breasts.

Some ladies may wish for larger breasts, be careful what you wish for.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 May 09 - 05:06 PM

When I have paid a goodly amount for a bra, it was handmade, custom-fitted AND extremely comfortable from These Folks, whom I learned about years ago when I asked MudcatWomen for advice on finding something comfortable! Time to order a new one, methinks!

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Peter T.
Date: 08 May 09 - 08:15 PM

I believe it was Fran Drescher who had a very funny article about women with larger breasts -- she wasn't one of them -- and how men spent all their time looking at their breasts, and never treating them like real women, and so on, and the last line of her article was:

"I have considered their plight, and their arguments, and I have concluded that they are full of shit."

yours,

Peter T. (no views one way or the other)

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Art Thieme
Date: 08 May 09 - 09:19 PM

In keeping with several threads I've been active witin in the past, maybe I ought to fess up to the fact that my condoms, through the years, always cost more because of the factors we are discussing here.

Yes, some people have tact, and others tell the truth!!

Art

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: CarolC
Date: 08 May 09 - 09:32 PM

The letters have nothing to do with the breadth of the back. That's what the numbers are for. And believe me, I am exceedingly familiar with the difference between a D cup and a DD cup. A 38B bra uses a lot more material than a 34 DD, because not only is more fabric used around the ribcage (which is the elastic part, and therefore probably more expensive than the cup material), but the cup of a 38 DD cup is much larger than the cup of a 34 DD cup, so the cup on a 38 B cup probably isn't very much smaller than the cup on a 34 DD cup bra.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: CarolC
Date: 08 May 09 - 09:35 PM

The other thing that makes bras more expensive for some women is when they have a relatively small ribcage with a larger bust. It is incredibly difficult to find a 34 D or DD bra, and they are usually very expensive when they can be found.

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: GUEST,hg
Date: 09 May 09 - 12:24 AM

prove it, thieme!

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: CarolC
Date: 09 May 09 - 12:40 AM

enormous condom

Subject: RE: BS: Storm in a DD cup
From: Art Thieme
Date: 09 May 09 - 01:04 AM

People, remember that I have won many liars contests through the years.

Art